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Bush pushes guest worker plan as Republicans duel
ABC ^ | July 5 2006

Posted on 07/05/2006 1:48:43 PM PDT by markedmannerf

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush on Wednesday vowed to keep working for immigration legislation including a guest worker program, as Republicans held dueling hearings to build support for rival bills.

Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter assembled employers and sympathetic politicians to testify in Philadelphia about the country's dependence on the estimated 11 to 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States.

Meanwhile, House Republican leaders convened a public hearing at a Border Patrol station in San Diego to highlight the need for stricter enforcement along the U.S. border with Mexico to prevent illegal immigrants entering the country.

Bush took a short trip from the White House to Alexandria, Virginia to weigh in on the debate, buying coffee at a Dunkin' Donuts with dollars borrowed from an aide. He told reporters the country needed a guest worker program.

"I know there needs to be a worker program that says you can come here on a temporary basis and work here legally for jobs Americans aren't doing," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush; guest; guestworker; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationplan; republicans; worker

1 posted on 07/05/2006 1:48:43 PM PDT by markedmannerf
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2 posted on 07/05/2006 1:51:12 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: markedmannerf
"I know there needs to be a worker program that says you can come here on a temporary basis and work here legally for jobs Americans aren't doing," he said.

No, there doesn't. Americans would do the job for a proper wage.

But more importantly, who is advising the President to keep using this tired old line? The more he says it, the more maddening it gets.
3 posted on 07/05/2006 1:52:35 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: gubamyster

I'll be glad when GWB leaves the White House. I've had it with the open borders/total amnesty crowd.


4 posted on 07/05/2006 1:53:58 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: markedmannerf
....the who shebang boils down to if one believes in amnesty (pathway to citizenship) or not.

Most everything else is moot.

Who votes for 16,000,000 + Dum-o-crats crashing the gates and who does not want to see this happen.
5 posted on 07/05/2006 1:54:10 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: markedmannerf
No, George, no Senate...not until after we repair the breach, sew it up tight, and show we are willing to enforce it.

Then, and only then, a modest guest worker program, requiring a thorough background check, that does not give a seperate path to citizenship, does not allow for in-country dependents, is relatively short term (but renewable) and denies any anchor baby provision can perhaps be discussed.

6 posted on 07/05/2006 1:54:29 PM PDT by Jeff Head (God, family, country)
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To: mysterio

"But more importantly, who is advising the President to keep using this tired old line? The more he says it, the more maddening it gets."


That would be the Karl Rove / La Raza gang.


7 posted on 07/05/2006 1:55:23 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: markedmannerf

"Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter assembled employers and sympathetic politicians to testify in Philadelphia about the country's dependence on the estimated 11 to 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States."

Why or why president Bush do you side with Arlen Specter and Edward Kennedy over James Sensenbrenner, Peter King, Steve King, J.D. Hayworth, Tom Tancredo and other conservative republicans in both the house and the senate? Don't you see it's the conservative wing that opposes this, your base, and mostly the liberal wing like Specter and Chafee in your party who support you on this?


8 posted on 07/05/2006 1:56:15 PM PDT by NapkinUser
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To: mysterio

I could not agree more.


9 posted on 07/05/2006 1:58:37 PM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: markedmannerf

Press Sec Snow(job) was saying at his morning presser that the WH polling showed most Americans want 'comprehensive' immigration reform.

[The WH should try polling outside the Oval Office Cabinet secretaries. They will find a different result.]


10 posted on 07/05/2006 1:59:13 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: mysterio

"No, there doesn't. Americans would do the job for a proper wage"

Market forces? LOL. Bush is against those. The overclass only invokes "free market" when it profits them.


11 posted on 07/05/2006 2:00:24 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: markedmannerf
"We cannot kick people out who have been here for a while," Bush said. "And so I look forward to working with Congress on a rational plan as to how to make sure people who have been here, the 11 million or so people who have been here for a while, are treated with respect and dignity."

What a disgraceful disappointment...

12 posted on 07/05/2006 2:00:44 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: TomGuy

"Press Sec Snow(job) was saying at his morning presser that the WH polling showed most Americans want 'comprehensive' immigration reform."

"Comprehensive" is a nice sounding word. I've seen the poll questions. They're rigged.


13 posted on 07/05/2006 2:01:39 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: markedmannerf
What a crock..all these meetings & debates

If this was private industry, the CEO would delineate his objectives.

His subordinates would work out the details of how to accomplish.

DONE !

I suspect most of the participants in this charade don't have/(don't want) a clue.

14 posted on 07/05/2006 2:03:41 PM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: mysterio
But more importantly, who is advising the President to keep using this tired old line? The more he says it, the more maddening it gets.

Probably the same one who keeps telling him to talk about the 'religion of peace'.

15 posted on 07/05/2006 2:03:46 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face.)
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To: mysterio

"who is advising the President to keep using this tired old line?"

What else can he say to the question "Why do we need new and extra worker programs?"


16 posted on 07/05/2006 2:04:17 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: markedmannerf
In law now we have a guest worker program from when Reagan did it.
What the President wants is a form of amnesty to which I say NO!
17 posted on 07/05/2006 2:06:23 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: mysterio
"I know there needs to be a worker program that says you can come here on a temporary basis and work here legally for jobs Americans aren't doing," he said.

We already have it >>>it's called a H2A visa !

There's something else goin' on !

18 posted on 07/05/2006 2:08:00 PM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: DTogo

Amen!


19 posted on 07/05/2006 2:14:05 PM PDT by MBB1984
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To: Shermy
"who is advising the President to keep using this tired old line?"

What else can he say to the question "Why do we need new and extra worker programs?"


When he gave that big night speech about immigration, he choked the first time he got to that phrase. It was funny, because he didn't even believe it himself, and his stumbling over the phrase indicated as much.

I'm reminded of 'the big lie'. If one repeats it enough, one begins to believe it.
20 posted on 07/05/2006 2:20:36 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: markedmannerf

Ugh. We already have a 'guest worker' program. It's called a work visa - been around a long time. Hasn't stopped the illegals before - isn't going to stop them by changing the name.


21 posted on 07/05/2006 2:22:05 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

They're not guests. Guests are invited. I want them EXTRACTED.


22 posted on 07/05/2006 2:33:19 PM PDT by samadams2000
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To: MEGoody

To: All

I would suggest that you write your local Representative and thank him/her for standing firm against the Senate bill, and also let them know that you support hearings to air the details of what it contains.

They are the ones that stopped this sham from going forward, and I am sure that they are under a lot of pressure to change their positions.

Let them KNOW that you are watching them!


23 posted on 07/05/2006 2:37:08 PM PDT by EEDUDE (Don't measure your wealth in dollars and cents.)
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To: markedmannerf

Helllllllllooooooooooooooo

Earth to Bush.

7, count 'em 7 missles launched by a madman with wmd.

Pushing your amnesty agenda can wait.


24 posted on 07/05/2006 2:45:22 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08)
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To: DTogo
""We cannot kick people out who have been here for a while," Bush said. "And so I look forward to working with Congress on a rational plan as to how to make sure people who have been here, the 11 million or so people who have been here for a while, are treated with respect and dignity.""

What a frigging joke the President has become on this issue. Because criminals have been successful at evading the law for a long time they should be given a free pass to break our laws in the future. Absolute crap. I've never been more angry or disappointed with a politician I voted for.
25 posted on 07/05/2006 2:58:36 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker
Think you'd ever hear this??

"We cannot arrest people who have been evading taxes for a while," Bush said. "And so I look forward to working with Congress on a rational plan as to how to make sure people who have been evading taxes, the 11 million or so people who have been evading taxes for a while, are treated with respect and dignity."

26 posted on 07/05/2006 3:14:13 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: A CA Guy

Fool me once - shame on you.

Fool me twice - shame on me.

Already been fooled once during the Reagan amnesty program. I can see where that got us.

Won't be fooled again!


27 posted on 07/05/2006 3:21:39 PM PDT by WayneM ( Sneaking in is NOT immigration.......(`'..').......Cut the KRAP (Karl Rove Amnesty Plan).)
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To: markedmannerf
About 80% of Americans oppose guest workers and open borders. But Bush doesn't want to hear the truth. Want to learn the truth about what really happening along our borders? There are live video reports avaliable here .. Unless, of course, you support open borders: risking National Security, bankrupting social security, trashing Medicare, closing medical clinics, eliminating jobs for Americans, wiping out employment benefits and giving free food to border jumpers.
28 posted on 07/05/2006 3:53:42 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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To: DTogo

Bush might as well stand up there and say "Open your wallets Americans because they ARE staying!"


29 posted on 07/05/2006 4:11:08 PM PDT by sheana
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To: DTogo

nah in 2005 they hired 2200 new IRS enforcement officers to make sure YOU pay your taxes.

No amnesty, guest worker, path to citizenship, earned legalization......!!!!!!!


30 posted on 07/05/2006 4:13:40 PM PDT by sheana
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To: WayneM
Agreed, but there were lots of non-adults since the 80s that haven't been educated about what a failure this was before and that it is a rehash of an old thing, not a new thought.
31 posted on 07/05/2006 4:34:48 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: markedmannerf
"Guest Worker Plan"? It's a shamnesty plan backed by the WH and Senate, but rejected by the House. They are not "guest workers". They are illegal aliens who have the right to return to their home countries, and apply just like everyone else on the planet.
32 posted on 07/05/2006 4:46:06 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: markedmannerf
I saw him..

The North Koreans lobbed missile number 7, and our President was pushing his shamnesty agenda at a Dunkin Donuts surrounded by a handful of smiling immigrants who had realized "the American Dream" because they "worked hard" selling donuts.

You can't make this stuff up..

sw

33 posted on 07/05/2006 4:55:07 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: markedmannerf
Bush went to a franchised Dunkin' Donuts to extol the virtues of entrepreneurship. He actually gave them credit for being entrepeneurs. Doesn't he know that they just have to come with the money to buy the franchise?

I saw this this afternoon. I don't think the people with the uniforms on in the background even understood him. They just stood there with a stupid smile on their faces.

Bush took a short trip from the White House to Alexandria, Virginia to weigh in on the debate, buying coffee at a Dunkin' Donuts with dollars borrowed from an aide.

He is so out of touch it's not even funny anymore.

34 posted on 07/05/2006 4:58:55 PM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: markedmannerf
"I know there needs to be a worker program that says you can come here on a temporary basis and work here legally for jobs Americans aren't doing," he said.

I want an amendment to the Constitution banning this phrase. It is deeply offensive coming from a man who is supposed to RESPECT and represent the legal citizens of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Clearly, he does not.

35 posted on 07/05/2006 5:12:30 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: Jeff Head

I demand solid verification of their documentation.


36 posted on 07/05/2006 7:25:00 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Double fence, spaced 80 feet, for 1,980 miles. Make it so.)
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To: TomGuy

Here's the latest from the president, today:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/05/AR2006070500739.html?nav=rss_politics/administration


I'm absolutely opposed to amnesty. Amnesty says you're automatically a citizen. That would be a mistake, to grant amnesty. Amnesty would say to somebody, you know: All I've got to do is wait it out; all I've got to do is get here illegally myself and I'll become a citizen.

That would be bad policy.


37 posted on 07/05/2006 7:31:48 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
And he goes on to say: "But I'm also realistic to tell you that we're not going to be able to deport people who've been here working hard and raising their families."

So, they become defacto legals, whether they are officially granted legal status, just by their being here -- which is amnesty -- because the Bush Admin isn't going to do anything with the ones who broke the law and came in illegally.

No matter how much lipstick they put on that pig, amnesty is still amnesty.
38 posted on 07/05/2006 8:05:06 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: samadams2000
I want them EXTRACTED.

Me too, after the borders are sealed so no more can sneak in. We've always had this problem, but it's gotten worse in leaps and bounds since Reagan offered amnesty to the illegals. He was a terrific President, but he sure messed up on that one.

39 posted on 07/06/2006 6:20:41 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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