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Wildlife Underpass Sees Unexpectedly Heavy Traffic
KESQ 3 ^ | 7/5/06

Posted on 07/06/2006 2:35:14 AM PDT by beyond the sea

LA HABRA HEIGHTS, Calif. How did the bobcat cross the road? In Puente Hills, it's the same way the coyotes, deer and other animals crossed: through the wildlife underpass beneath Harbor Boulevard.

The one-point-two million dollar underpass was unveiled on June First to give the animals an alternative to dashing across the boulevard.

Researchers say they're surprised that the 20-foot-wide, 160-foot-long tunnel is already well traveled by animals traveling between the Whittier Narrows nature area and the Cleveland National Forest.

Even notoriously skittish deer started using the tunnel just a couple weeks after it was built, without incentives like scents, grains and plants to lure them across.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: animals; driving; environment; govwatch; kindness; safety; transportation; underpass; wildlife
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This is pretty nice!

;-)

1 posted on 07/06/2006 2:35:17 AM PDT by beyond the sea
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To: carenot; planetpatrol; razorback-bert; Revolting cat!; Primetimedonna; Frank_2001; jdm; ...

going underground ................. ping


2 posted on 07/06/2006 2:40:12 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: beyond the sea

"If you build it...they will come."


3 posted on 07/06/2006 2:47:00 AM PDT by Khurkris (Things look different from over here.)
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To: beyond the sea

That doesn't make scents.


4 posted on 07/06/2006 2:51:46 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Khurkris
LOL ............ I wish I would have said that.

;-)

Best I can come up with: 'Your Tax Dollars at Work'

Seriously, I think this is a great idea. I heard it on the radio yesterday and was surprised to check this morning and find that no one had posted about this already.

So, this project makes it safer for the drivers and the animals. Good.

5 posted on 07/06/2006 2:53:27 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: Past Your Eyes

I bet it does...and scat, too...


6 posted on 07/06/2006 2:54:08 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Khurkris
The one-point-two million dollar underpass was unveiled on June First to give the animals an alternative to dashing across the boulevard.

The Coyote Underground

7 posted on 07/06/2006 2:55:51 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: nickcarraway; goldstategop; pillbox_girl; Paleo Conservative; Jeff Chandler; Chewbacca; ...

coyote ping


8 posted on 07/06/2006 3:02:56 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: beyond the sea

So, how long before the cougars, and coyotes, wise up and start requiring a toll?


9 posted on 07/06/2006 3:07:21 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: beyond the sea

good place to post.


10 posted on 07/06/2006 3:08:16 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein(the moon is a harsh mistress))
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To: beyond the sea

I think they tried this in Banff NP and it failed. Of course, the geniuses up there used overpasses.


11 posted on 07/06/2006 3:08:36 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: CalvaryJohn

"overpasses" --- LOL


12 posted on 07/06/2006 3:09:34 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: beyond the sea

Thanks. I moved from HN amd the OC in 2004 and remember stories about this under construction.

So you were a "Lighting Fast Chicken ..."? I knew a few of them in VN. Some MC Intercepts in Phu Bai (Phu Bai is alll-riiight!) and some others in Thailand...on the "back side of the runway."

Remember any carbon paper 'flame on' games?


13 posted on 07/06/2006 3:12:52 AM PDT by Khurkris (Things look different from over here.)
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To: Khurkris

Make that ..."HB and the OC"...


14 posted on 07/06/2006 3:14:12 AM PDT by Khurkris (Things look different from over here.)
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To: beyond the sea

Sounds like a good place to place a couple of leg hold traps during season.


15 posted on 07/06/2006 3:19:44 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: wita
BINGO! Exactly what I was thinking. Predator animals will start hanging around waiting for lunch. Hen lets see how many deer use it.

prisoner6

16 posted on 07/06/2006 3:20:47 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the Left fall out.)
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To: Khurkris

Skunks will never use this underpass .... they're always arguing with each other about crossing the road. They always like to raise a stink.


17 posted on 07/06/2006 3:21:37 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: prisoner6

18 posted on 07/06/2006 3:22:31 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (http://www.busateripens.com)
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To: riverrunner

Ouch.


19 posted on 07/06/2006 3:22:48 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: wita
So, how long before the cougars, and coyotes, wise up and start requiring a toll?

Unionization couldn't be too far away.

;-)

20 posted on 07/06/2006 3:24:02 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: beyond the sea

Cool.

I hope this idea catches on.


21 posted on 07/06/2006 3:24:07 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: beyond the sea

Until they're dead and in the middle of the road.


22 posted on 07/06/2006 3:24:37 AM PDT by Khurkris (Things look different from over here.)
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To: Skooz
Cool. I hope this idea catches on.

Me too ........... but it peobably could be done for a little less $$$. But I like this idea.

23 posted on 07/06/2006 3:25:49 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: beyond the sea

In England, they actually built something similar so frogs could cross under the road.

IIRC, some species of frog has a mass migration every year that compelled them to cross a busy road, so the folks in the village built them a small underpass.


24 posted on 07/06/2006 3:28:58 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: beyond the sea

"Why did the chicken use the underpass...?"


25 posted on 07/06/2006 3:32:07 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Skooz
In England, they actually built something similar so frogs could cross under the road.

Probably felt guilty.


26 posted on 07/06/2006 3:37:44 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: All

27 posted on 07/06/2006 3:44:37 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: beyond the sea

I love the idea and hope it works. "My" very large wild snapping turtles have those big conduits under the bayous that they travel back and forth through, in a similar fashion.

One main question - is there a reason they didn't mention any armadillos using this "Kill-Free Highway"?


28 posted on 07/06/2006 3:50:14 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: beyond the sea

A coyote doesn't need a silly ol' tunnel to cross no road...

29 posted on 07/06/2006 3:56:51 AM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up two (2) seats in the Senate and four (4) seats in the House in 2006)
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To: beyond the sea

Snare heaven!


30 posted on 07/06/2006 4:21:35 AM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: Skooz
In England, they actually built something similar so frogs could cross under the road.

That's great to hear.

****

Why did the frogs cross the road? To get a croak-a-cola.

Ugh!

;-)

31 posted on 07/06/2006 5:02:01 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Why did the hen go halfway across the road and stop?

She wanted to lay it on the line.

32 posted on 07/06/2006 5:03:18 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: Skooz

That really is great.


33 posted on 07/06/2006 5:03:47 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: Rte66

I don't know. It was a very short article.


34 posted on 07/06/2006 5:04:42 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: gridlock

LOL


35 posted on 07/06/2006 5:05:15 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: beyond the sea

Ah - well, dillos seem to prefer being roadkill, at least in TX - that's the reason I asked.


36 posted on 07/06/2006 5:09:16 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: beyond the sea

Looks like a great place for predators to hang out...


37 posted on 07/06/2006 5:11:11 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face.)
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To: beyond the sea
Quite a while back, Florida was talking about doing this so the Florida Panther, Cougar, Puma (you name it) could cross Alligator Alley.

I believe there were only suppose to be 26 remaining and they wanted to protect them.

I hunted in the Everglades and I haven't figured out to this day how they counted them.

38 posted on 07/06/2006 5:12:12 AM PDT by depenzz (When your life flashes before your eyes, make sure you have something to watch)
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To: beyond the sea

They need these for turtles where I live. Lots of them.

Of course, here in Oklahoma, each one would go over-budget and the poor animals would have to pay about $5.00 a pop. Shells and tails would count as an extra axle, to boot.


39 posted on 07/06/2006 5:15:03 AM PDT by Puddleglum (If the great cathedrals were built today, they would be shoddy and over-budget)
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To: depenzz
I haven't figured out to this day how they counted them.

LOL .......... it's impossible.

40 posted on 07/06/2006 5:15:08 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: Puddleglum
Shells and tails would count as an extra axle, to boot.

;-)

41 posted on 07/06/2006 5:15:56 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Scientists Are Itching to Blame Poison Ivy's Effect on Global Warming)
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To: Rte66
Ah - well, dillos seem to prefer being roadkill, at least in TX - that's the reason I asked.

Armadillos couldn't use the underpass anyway.

They'd get scared three of four times going thru it and jump and hit the ceiling. They'd be toast by the time they got out.

Reverse roadkill ;-)

42 posted on 07/06/2006 5:18:20 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (My head hurts.)
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To: beyond the sea

Once the new Rand McNally road maps come out there will be many many more using the tunnels, they run about 2 years behind.


43 posted on 07/06/2006 5:21:01 AM PDT by depenzz (When your life flashes before your eyes, make sure you have something to watch)
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To: CalvaryJohn

NJ built an overpass too. Useless!


44 posted on 07/06/2006 5:52:15 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: beyond the sea

I like this. I think it could have been done cheaper though.


45 posted on 07/06/2006 6:03:35 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: VeniVidiVici

Tee hee, that's *exactly* the scenario I was picturing. Sort of like me, scuba diving in caves. I just won't do it. Spelunkaphobic as I am, I always swim around and over while my dive buddies explore the caves.

I'd be sea-kill from trying to ascend and knocking myself out on the coral stalactites, just like a jumping armadillo in an underpass.


46 posted on 07/06/2006 6:29:41 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

LOL. You must have seen the original "Muppet Movie" where the villain had captured Kermit and was telling Kermit about his evil plan to establish a nationwide chain of frog leg restaurants. Kermit got a sick look on his face and said, "Imagine, thousands of tiny wheelchairs."


47 posted on 07/06/2006 6:45:29 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: beyond the sea
Just like going to Kennywood.

SD

48 posted on 07/06/2006 8:20:40 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
L O L
49 posted on 07/06/2006 8:39:18 AM PDT by martin_fierro (<-- Once shouted "Migra!" in a crowded taqueria)
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To: beyond the sea

Careful: yes, it's a nice idea. At a high cost in dollars for animals who DON'T pay taxes.


You must decide whether this is a valid use for tax money.


50 posted on 07/06/2006 8:40:39 AM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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