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ON PEGGY NOONAN ON HILLARY CLINTON SENDING MEN TO WAR (It runs in the family)
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| Mia T
Posted on 07/07/2006 5:05:55 AM PDT by Mia T
- ON PEGGY NOONAN ON HILLARY CLINTON SENDING MEN TO WAR
(IT RUNS IN THE FAMILY)1
- by Mia T, 7.07.06
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- She seems like someone who might calculatedly go to war, or not, based on how she wanted to be perceived and look and do. She does not seem like someone who would anguish and weep over sending men into harm's way.
And in this, as president, she would be deeply unusual. LBJ felt anguish; there are pictures of him, head in hands, suffering. Bush the Elder wept as he talked, with Paula Zahn, about what it was to send men to war. Bush the Younger would breastfeed the military if he could. Hillary is like someone who would know she should be moved but wouldn't be because she couldn't be because . . . well, why? That is the question. Maybe a lifetime in politics has bled some of the human element out of her. Maybe there wasn't that much to begin with. Maybe she thinks that if she wept, the wires that hold her together would short.
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Peggy Noonan Stop Spinning Contrarian thoughts on Hillary Opinion Journal June 29, 2006
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[T]hough both pursuits involve self-interest, economic self-interest is less complicated. By contrast, there are many forms of political self-interest, frequently in conflict: Should you desire security or glory?
President wanted, MBA not required Why the government isn't a business. By Charles R. Kesler July 3, 2006
[COMMENT: While Kesler makes some interesting points about why the business model does not translate well into government-ese, while he does a reasonably good job with standard 'bash Bush,' his larger argument is flawed.
His central premise, that a president will necessarily run the country in accordance with the precepts of his last degree... or his last job, is false, and he misses the larger point, in any case.
The author actually alludes to this larger point in the above passage--inadvertently, almost as a throwaway line, without really understanding its significance. (Shows you where The Left is on this.)
In the caldron of conflict and resolution that is government, it matters not much from which little parochial corner we pluck our leaders. What matters--what matters most--perhaps what matters only in the end--is character.
According to the author, "Do I desire security or glory?" is one of the "complicated" questions a president must ask.
The author fails to understand that a president who needs to ask himself that question is in the wrong job.--Mia T] 2
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- One is inevitably reminded of the quite unbelievable image of the president of the United States on the phone with a congressman discussing Bosnia while being simultaneously serviced by Monica Lewinsky. -- Charles Krauthammer, History Will Not be Kind to Clinton
- [COMMENT: While clinton was being serviced by The Intern, he and Congressman H.L. "Sonny" Callahan were discussing sending American troops -- our sons and daughters -- to a dangerous place full of death. -- Mia T]
- What was always staggering to me about this scene was not what it says about Clinton's sexual practices -- I couldn't care less one way or another -- but about his unseriousness. -- Krauthammer, ibid.
- [COMMENT: This scene confirms more than simply clinton's smallness; it confirms the Africa clip, the clintons' easy disregard for any life not their own... which, in turn, explains THE CLINTONS' EASY DISREGARD FOR GENOCIDE AND TERRORISM.--Mia T] 3
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ALBRIGHT INDICTS CLINTON FOR TERRORISM FAILURE (and doesn't even know it)
by Mia T, 4.28.06
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 ALBRIGHT: 'Bin Laden and his Network Declared War on the United States and Struck First and We Have Suffered Deeply'
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This legacy confab is in and of itself proof certain of clinton's deeply flawed character, and a demonstration in real time of the way in which the clinton years were about a legacy that was incidentally a presidency.
Madeleine Albright captured the essence of this dysfunctional presidency best when she explained why clinton couldn't go after bin Laden.
According to Richard Miniter, the Albright revelation occurred at the cabinet meeting that would decide the disposition of the USS Cole bombing by al Qaeda [that is to say, that would decide to do what it had always done when a "bimbo" was not spilling the beans on the clintons: Nothing]. Only Clarke wanted to retaliate militarily for this unambiguous act of war.
Albright explained that a [sham] Mideast accord would yield [if not peace for the principals, surely] a Nobel Peace Prize for clinton. Kill or capture bin Laden and clinton could kiss the 'accord' and the Peace Prize good-bye.
If clinton liberalism, smallness, cowardice, corruption, perfidy--and, to borrow a phrase from Andrew Cuomo, clinton cluelessness--played a part, it was, in the end, the Nobel Peace Prize that produced the puerile pertinacity that enabled the clintons to shrug off terrorism's global danger.
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'Can we kill 'em tomorrow?' THE ADDRESS
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THE (oops!) TRUTH
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"In this interdependent world, we should still have a preference for peace over war....
But sometimes we would have these debates where people would say, if I didn't take some military action this very day, people would look down their nose at America and think we were weak. And I always thought of Senator Fulbright.... 6
So anytime somebody said in my presence, 'Hey, if you don't do this, people will think you're weak,' I always asked the same question for eight years, 'Can we kill 'em tomorrow?'
I don't think we can bring 'em back tomorrow, but can we kill 'em tomorrow? If we can kill them tomorrow, then we're not weak.... 1
I learned that as a 20-year-old kid watching Bill Fulbright. Listening."
bill clinton Fulbright Prize address April 12, 2006
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"Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in '91 and he went to the Sudan.
We'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him [bin Laden].
At the time, '96, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.
So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have; but they thought it was a hot potato. They didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan."
bill clinton Sunday, Aug. 11, 2002 Clinton Reveals on Secret Audio: I Nixed Bin Laden Extradition Offer
"I remember exactly what happened. Bruce Lindsey said to me on the phone, 'My God, a second plane has hit the tower.' And I said, 'Bin Laden did this.' that's the first thing I said. He said, 'How can you be sure?' I said 'Because only bin Laden and the Iranians could set up the network to do this and they [the Iranians] wouldn't do it because they have a country in targets. Bin Laden did it.'
I thought that my virtual obsession 2 with him was well placed and I was full of regret that I didn't get him."
bill clinton Sunday, Sept 3, 2002 Larry King Live
- "You know... the job which we should have done 1... which should have been our primary focus, to find [you know] bin Laden and eliminate al Qaeda."
hillary clinton Saturday, Jan. 28, 2006 Chitchat with Jane Pauley San Francisco, CA
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- ... I thank you for this award, even though, in general, I think former presidents and presidents should never get awards. I was delighted when Jimmy Carter won the Nobel Peace Prize because I thought he earned it, and I thought it was great because he got it as much for what he did after office as when he was in office. In general, I think that the fact that we got to be president is quite honor enough.
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bill clinton Fulbright Prize address April 12, 2006
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- "Bill Clinton is still campaigning for the Nobel Peace Prize. But for now, he'll just have to settle for "the political play of the week."
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Bill Schneider CNN reporting on the Fulbright Prize April 14, 2006
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- WASHINGTON -- Two Norwegian public-relations executives and one member of the Norwegian Parliament say they were contacted by the White House to help campaign for President Clinton to receive this year's Nobel Peace Prize for his work in trying to negotiate peace in the Middle East.
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Clinton Lobbies for Nobel Prize: What a Punk White House Lobbied For Clinton Nobel Peace Prize Updated Friday, October 13, 2000 By Rita Cosby
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- There's been speculation in the last few months that Clinton was pursuing a Mideast peace accord in an effort to win the prize and secure his legacy as president.
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AIDES PUSH CLINTON FOR THE NOBEL
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- At the time, clinton observed: "I made more progress in the Middle East than I did between Socks and Buddy." Retrospectively, it is clear that clinton's characterization was not correct.
Mia T Buddy Death Report Raises More Questions Than It Answers
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MISSING CLINTON AUDIO! 'Can we kill 'em tomorrow?' (+Albright-Fulbright-Nobel TERRORISM revelations)
HEAR CLINTON! 'Can we kill 'em tomorrow?' by Mia T, 4.24.06

WHY DID BILL CLINTON IGNORE TERRORISM? Was it simply the constraints of his liberal mindset, or was it something even more threatening to our national security? by Mia T, 8.18.05
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- I never hated Clinton.... Nor was I scandalized by his escapades. What appalled me then, a feeling that returns as Clinton has gone national revisiting his own presidency, is the smallness of a man who granted equal valence to his own indulgences on the one hand and to the fate of nations on the other. It is the smallness that disturbs. It is that smallness that history will remember.--Krauthammer, ibid.
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READ MORE "SONNY" CALLAHAN + BILL CLINTON'S CINDY SHEEHANS by Mia T, 8.24.05
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The following is a letter to ex-President Clinton from James Smith, a former Ranger whose son Corporal James E Smith was killed in Somalia. Mr. Smith, a decorated Vietnam-era Ranger himself, rejected the traditonal letter of condolence written by the White House, and returned this in reply:
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10 Mallard Lane Long Valley, N.J., 07853
President William Clinton The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Washington, D.C., 20500
October 25, 1993
President Clinton:
As a warrior who was disabled in the Vietnam War and as a father of a warrior killed in action in Somalia, I cannot accept your letter of condolence for the death of my son Ranger Corporal James E. Smith. To accept your letter would be contrary to all the beliefs I, my son and the Rangers hold so dear, including: loyalty, courage and tenacity.
During the battle for Anzio, in World War II, an inept indecisive field commander sent the Rangers into battle where they were slaughtered. Fifty years later the Rangers again were ordered into battle, where they were surrounded and outgunned. But this time it was not the fault of the field commanders. No - this time it was the fault of the Commander in Chief, the President of the United States. Your failure to provide the requested combat support reveals a lack of loyalty to the troops under your command and an extreme shortage of moral courage.
I had the honor to meet the Rangers who fought along side my son and were with Jamie when he died. I heard of magnificent acts of courage and sacrifice. I had Rangers, with tears in their eyes, apologize for letting my son die or their failure to break through and rescue the trapped Rangers. The failure is not theirs, it is yours. Trucks and Humvees cannot replace the requested tanks, armored personnel carriers and Spectre gunships.
As a combat veteran I know that there are no certainties on the battlefield; however, as an Infantry Officer I will always speculate that significantly less casualties would have resulted if you, as Commander in Chief, provided the Rangers with the requested combat support - equipment with which Rangers routinely train and for which approval should have been automatic. The Rangers were pinned down for twelve hours - long hours when the Rangers were fighting for their lives and a Delta Force medic fought to save my son. Jamie bled to death because the requested armor support was not there to break through to the Rangers.
Rangers pride themselves on the Ranger Creed. "Driving on to the Ranger objective", or "Surrender is not a Ranger word" are not hollow phrases to the men of the black beret. These soldiers understand the word tenacious and wanted to complete their mission. As Ranger after Ranger told me, they were hitting Aidid's forces and command structure hard. But, the United Nations was actually impeding Ranger missions by offering sanctuary to Aidid's supporters. Your willingness to allow this dangerous situation demonstrates a lack of resolve in supporting the men you sent into battle.
My son is no longer here to "Lead the Way"; however, I am. Until you as President and Commander in Chief are either willing or able to formulate a clear foreign policy, establish specific objectives and, most important, support the men and women in uniform, I will "Lead the Way" in insuring that you no longer send America's finest to a needless death. When you are capable of meeting these criteria, then I will accept your letter of condolence.
Sincerely,
[signature] James H. Smith Captain/Infantry (Retired)
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thanx to snowrip for letter
The author also noted that James Smith, a former Ranger captain and father of Cpl. Jamie Smith -- who bled to death after he was shot in the leg during the battle, because he could not be evacuated -- returned a letter of condolence from President Clinton. In rejecting it, he sent a letter of his own, blaming Clinton for the Mogadishu debacle.
Also not in the movie was an after-action incident between Clinton and the parents of two Rangers -- MSgt. Gary Gordon, 33, and SFC Randy Shughart, 35 &endash; who were killed in action but posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for their actions.
McKenny said that family members were invited to the White House to receive the medals. Clinton reportedly invited the parents of Gordon and Shughart into the Oval Office for a private meeting.
When he did, "he stuck his hand out to shake the hands of the parents, but Randy Shughart's father refused to take Clinton's hand."
Then, McKenny said, "he looked Clinton in the face, told him he was responsible for his son's death, that it was for no purpose and that he wasn't fit to be president or commander in chief."
Smith, who had his left leg amputated after being wounded in Vietnam in the mid-60s, later said Clinton also didn't take responsibility for the decisions that left the Rangers without heavy armored support.
In a another incident, the author said that weeks later family members of many of the dead were called to Washington, D.C., to testify at congressional hearings into the debacle.
"When Clinton heard they were in town, he called them into his office for a meeting and told them that part of the reason they were dead was their own fault," McKenny said. "He said they may have been responsible for their own deaths because they were 'too aggressive' in Mogadishu."
One other incident that didn't make the movie -- or the American press, McKenny said -- happened after the wounded soldiers were brought back to Walter Reed Army Hospital outside Washington.
"Clinton was advised to go see them, but he didn't want to," McKenny said. "Somewhat reluctantly, he finally did go. When he got there, he offered to have his picture taken with each one of them. At least four turned him down, saying they wouldn't dishonor their dead friends or their uniform by having their pictures taken with him.
Black Hawk Down' doesn't tell whole story Movie about Somalia military disaster leaves out Clinton episodes Thursday, January 31, 2002 By Jon Dougherty
a staff reporter and columnist for WorldNetDaily and author of the special report, "Election 2000: How the Military Vote Was Suppressed."
BILL CLINTON'S CINDY SHEEHANS (courtesy Sean Hannity)
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NANO-PRESIDENT the danger of the unrelenting smallness of bill + hillary clinton
by Mia T, 7.31.05
- Ian Hunter recently observed that our leaders are shrinking. "From a Churchill (or, for that matter, a Margaret Thatcher) to a [pre-9/11] Tony Blair; from Eisenhower to Clinton; from Diefenbaker to Joe Clark; from Trudeau to Chretien -- we seem destined to be governed by pygmies."
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Mindless rhinestone-studded-and-tented kleptocracy Mia T, November 1999

ur leaders are inexorably shrinking. According to my current mathematical models, they are shrinking at a rate of 6.7 per linear dimension per election cycle per terrorist attack. At this rate, most leaders will be nanoleaders by the 2020s.
The leader-shrinkage function is discontinuous for 1992 =< t <= 2000 and continuous for all other t.
The 1990s saw in America a sudden, discontinuous drop in leader size, a drop that retrospectively, post-9/11, has been theorized to be its greatest lower bound. (Can anything be lower than a clinton?)
"Two for the price of one," the clinton pitch in '92 -- (Did the clintons understand at the time that one was not enough?) -- only made matters worse. Missus clinton in the West Wing actually added to this discontinuous decrease in leader size.
History will record, therefore, that the clintons--the twofer, (1992-2000), were America's first nano-president.
The clintons continue to imperil virtually every sector of society, indeed, continue to imperil America and the world, with their exponentially increasing facility in manipulating electoral/policy matter and energy at ever smaller scales. Their "school uniforms" of the '90s became "nanotech uniforms" today; both are proxies for "fight terrorism," which the clintons have neither the stomach nor the know-how to do.
The twofer construct, transposed to circumvent the 22nd Amendment, is now poised to retake power. A self-replicating, Constitution-specific pathogen, the clinton nano-presidency, post-9/11, is a danger that we cannot -- we must not -- abide. |
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- It isn't that they can't see the solution. It is that they can't see the problem.
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... While America appears not to be ready for a female president under any circumstances, the post-9/11 realities pose special problems for a female presidential candidate. Add to these the problems unique to missus clinton. The reviews make the mistake of focusing on the problems of the generic female presidential candidate running during ordinary times.
These are not ordinary times. America is waging the global War on Terror; the uncharted territory of asymmetric netherworlds is the battlefield; the enemy is brutal, subhuman; the threat of global conflagration is real.
Defeating the enemy isn't sufficient. For America to prevail, she must also defeat a retrograde, misogynous mindset. To successfully prosecute the War on Terror, it is essential that the collective patriarchal islamic culture perceives America as politically and militarily strong. Condi Rice excepted, this requirement presents an insurmountable hurdle for any female presidential candidate, and especially missus clinton, historically antimilitary--(an image, incidentally, that is only enhanced today by her clumsy, termagant parody of Thatcher), forever the pitiful victim, and, according to Dick Morris, "the biggest dove in the clinton administration."
It is ironic that had the clintons not failed utterly to fight terrorism... not failed to take bin Laden from Sudan... not failed repeatedly to decapitate a nascent, still stoppable al Qaeda... the generic female president as a construct would still be viable... missus clinton's obstacles would be limited largely to standard-issue clintonisms: corruption, abuse, malpractice, malfeasance, megalomania, rape and treason... and, in spite of Juanita Broaddrick, or perhaps because of her, Rod Lurie would be reduced to perversely hawking the "First Gentleman" instead of the "Commander-in-Chief."
Mia T, 10.02.05 HILLARY'S COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF PROBLEM (see descriptor morphs)
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December 7, 1941+64
AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO
RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton
Dear Concerned Americans,
Hillary Clinton's revisionist tome notwithstanding, 'living history' begets a certain symmetry. It is in that light that I make this not-so-modest proposal on this day, exactly 64 years after the attack on Pearl Harbor.
The context of our concern today--regardless of political affiliation--is Iraq and The War on Terror, but the larger fear is that our democracy may not survive.
We have the requisite machines, power and know-how to defeat the enemy in Iraq and elsewhere, but do we have the will?
In particular, do we have the will to identify and defeat the enemy in our midst?
Answerable to no one, heir apparent in her own mind, self-serving in the extreme, Hillary Clinton incarnates this insidious new threat to our survival.
What we decide to do about Missus Clinton will tell us much about what awaits us in these perilous new times.
COMPLETE LETTER
December 7, 1941+64 Mia T AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton
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- hillary's vaccine shortage, the avian flu, pandemic, terrorism, hillary clinton, bill clinton, bird flu
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IT TAKES A CLINTON TO RAZE A COUNTRY
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by Mia T, 11.14.05
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COPYRIGHT MIA T 2006
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COPYRIGHT MIA T 2006
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bill; binladen; clinton; corruption; election2006; election2008; elections; genocide; hillary; hillary08; military; monica; sonnycallahan; terrorism; war; waronterror; wot
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07/07/2006 5:06:02 AM PDT
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Mia T
To: Wolverine
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07/07/2006 5:09:38 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Brian Allen
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07/07/2006 5:10:24 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: WorkingClassFilth; Gail Wynand; Brian Allen; Lonesome in Massachussets; yoe; YaYa123; IVote2; ...
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07/07/2006 5:13:37 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: snowrip
James H. Smith
Captain/Infantry (Retired)
ping
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07/07/2006 5:16:19 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Gail Wynand
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07/07/2006 5:22:51 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Sic Luceat Lux
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07/07/2006 5:23:36 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: PGalt
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07/07/2006 5:29:11 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: beyond the sea
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07/07/2006 5:32:37 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Grampa Dave
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07/07/2006 5:33:15 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: presently no screen name
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07/07/2006 5:33:57 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
Maybe a lifetime in politics has bled some of the human element out of her. Maybe there wasn't that much to begin with.You're getting close Peggy.
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07/07/2006 5:35:35 AM PDT
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johnny7
(“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
To: Mia T
Had never heard about the soldiers'/parents' reactions to Clinton after the "Black Hawk Down" incident. Thank you.
To: johnny7
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07/07/2006 5:40:25 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
I used to laugh at the pseudo conservatives on Free Republic who blithely would suggest that we should allow $inator Hildebea$t to become president to punish GW and republicans by not voting or voting for a third partly loser.
Now, I view them as either totally insane/suicidal or deeply planted brownshirted moles/trolls working to discourage us from voting against this bea$t.
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07/07/2006 5:40:40 AM PDT
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Grampa Dave
(There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic Lies posing as journalism)
To: ChiefJayStrongbow
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07/07/2006 5:41:01 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
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07/07/2006 5:51:38 AM PDT
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Wolverine
(A Concerned Citizen)
To: Grampa Dave
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07/07/2006 5:53:06 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
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07/07/2006 5:58:14 AM PDT
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bmwcyle
(Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
To: Mia T
Excellent rebuttal to the lunatic/suicidal ranting that we should allow the Bea$t to become president to punish GW and Republicans.
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07/07/2006 6:00:39 AM PDT
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Grampa Dave
(There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic Lies posing as journalism)
To: Grampa Dave
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07/07/2006 6:07:06 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: ChiefJayStrongbow
"What's he jumping on me for? I didn't kill the kid!"
The London Sunday Times, May 29, 1994:
It was the moment President Bill Clinton wanted to restore his
tattered reputation with the military before his departure for the
D-Day celebrations in Europe this week, James Adams reports.
He had just presented posthumous Congressional Medals of Honour,
America's highest military decoration, to the widows of two
soldiers for valour in Somalia. After inviting the families for a
moment of quiet reflection in the Oval Office, the president
approached Herbert Shughart, the father of one of the two
soldiers, and offered his hand.
Eventually, after Clinton had sat on the paper work for eight
weeks, two of the slain soldiers, Master Sergeant Gary Gordon and
Sergeant First Class Randall Shughart, were posthumously awarded
the Medal of Honor. As usual in such cases, the medals were
presented to the next of kin.
Following the May 23 presentation at the White House, the families
of the two men were invited into the Oval Office for a private
visit with Clinton. Inside the office, the father of Sergeant
Shughart refused to shake Clinton's hand, then looked him in the
face and calmly told him that he was responsible for his son's
death, that it was for no purpose, that he was not fit to be
President, and not fit to be Commander in Chief.
Clinton was visibly shocked, amazed, and momentarily speechless.
It is revealing that he was surprised that the man should feel
that way. Clinton really doesn't think the way most people do,
seeming to lack a sense of personal responsibility. After a brief,
awkward silence, Clinton caught his breath. Becoming angry, he
turned to the mother of the dead soldier and said, "What's he
jumping on me for? I didn't kill the kid!" (Emphasis added).
One other incident that didn't make the American press, happened after the wounded soldiers were brought back to Walter Reed Army Hospital outside Washington.
"Clinton was advised to go see them, but he didn't want to," McKenny said. "Somewhat reluctantly, he finally did go. When he got there, he offered to have his picture taken with each one of them. At least four turned him down, saying they wouldn't dishonor their dead friends or their uniform by having their pictures taken with him.
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07/07/2006 6:07:06 AM PDT
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Wolverine
(A Concerned Citizen)
To: Wolverine; ChiefJayStrongbow; All
Thank you for posting this, Wolverine.
The clintons are psychopaths.
Mutants.
Aliens.
We must not, in this Age of Terror,
allow another Perot or Perot-surrogate issue
elect a defective and dangerous clinton by a plurality.
Putting doctrinal purity ahead of
making sure a defective and dangerous clinton
never again controls this country
is pre-clinton thinking.
We no longer have the luxury of time or circumstance
to massage our sensibilities, to indulge our indignations.
We will not survive another clinton.
(We may yet not survive the first one.)
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07/07/2006 6:20:11 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
Clinton once said he "loathed" the military. Its pretty clear the feeling is mutual; as well it should be.
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07/07/2006 6:22:54 AM PDT
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To: D1X1E
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07/07/2006 6:29:35 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: bmwcyle
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07/07/2006 6:30:11 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Defender2
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07/07/2006 6:34:58 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: FlyVet
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07/07/2006 6:35:28 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: ALOHA RONNIE
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07/07/2006 6:36:05 AM PDT
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Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
Wow. I need an antidote, quick! Hillary overload!
To: Mia T
What was always staggering to me about this scene was not what it says about Clinton's sexual practices -- I couldn't care less one way or another -- but about his unseriousness. -- Krauthammer, ibid. For me, it symbolized the utter contempt in which he holds the military; those who sacrifice life, limb, mental health, and the friends and family who suffer along with them.
We read that those such as the President, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz often visit the wounded without fanfare. How hard this must be to face these wounded, knowing you are the one that sent them off to battle. But face them, they do. I don't doubt they have tears in private moments.
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posted on
07/07/2006 7:21:00 AM PDT
by
FlyVet
To: FlyVet
Thanx, FlyVet.
bump.
I think it's the confluence of the clintons' utter contempt for the military, their fundamental cowardice and their pathological self-interest.
32
posted on
07/07/2006 7:29:44 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: austinaero
33
posted on
07/07/2006 7:31:30 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: UWSrepublican
34
posted on
07/07/2006 7:51:30 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: UWSrepublican
35
posted on
07/07/2006 8:07:47 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: WorkingClassFilth
36
posted on
07/07/2006 8:53:17 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: yoe
37
posted on
07/07/2006 8:53:37 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: FlyVet
38
posted on
07/07/2006 8:54:43 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Brian Allen
39
posted on
07/07/2006 8:55:19 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
Thanks Mia, we must never forget the lives that were needlessly lost due to the disgraced ex-President and his despicable wife.
40
posted on
07/07/2006 9:06:29 AM PDT
by
ncountylee
(Dead terrorists smell like victory)
To: ncountylee
41
posted on
07/07/2006 10:22:29 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: UWSrepublican
42
posted on
07/07/2006 12:37:17 PM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
Painful to the point of intolerable.
Can't you just post a story and links like everyone else?
43
posted on
07/07/2006 12:39:40 PM PDT
by
BlueNgold
(Feed the Tree .....)
To: Mia T
"Red Dragon Rising" should be considered elementary reading for anyone wishing to familiarize themselves with the danger China poses to the United States.
Clinton's real "legacy" will be the Second Cold War. The only difference is that this time, we probably won't be able to outspend our adversary.
44
posted on
07/07/2006 2:37:36 PM PDT
by
snowrip
(Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
To: BlueNgold
Oh dear. I hope you're ok. ;(
(Why in the world didn't you stop sooner?)
45
posted on
07/07/2006 2:48:40 PM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
<< .... .... It isn't that they can't see the solution. It is that they can't see the problem.
G. K. Chesterton ....
.... I never hated Clinton.... Nor was I scandalized by his escapades. What appalled me then, a feeling that returns as Clinton has gone national revisiting his own presidency, is the smallness of a man who granted equal valence to his own indulgences on the one hand and to the fate of nations on the other. It is the smallness that disturbs. It is that smallness that history will remember.--Krauthammer, ibid. ....
.... One is inevitably reminded of the quite unbelievable image of the president of the United States on the phone with a congressman discussing Bosnia while being simultaneously serviced by Monica Lewinsky. -- Charles Krauthammer, History Will Not be Kind to Clinton
[COMMENT: While clinton was being serviced by The Intern, he and Congressman H.L. "Sonny" Callahan were discussing sending American troops -- our sons and daughters -- to a dangerous place full of death. -- Mia T] ....
.... What was always staggering to me about this scene was not what it says about Clinton's sexual practices -- I couldn't care less one way or another -- but about his unseriousness. -- Krauthammer, ibid. ....
.... it is ironic that had the clintons not failed utterly to fight terrorism ... not failed to take bin Laden from Sudan ... not failed repeatedly to decapitate a nascent, still stoppable al Qaeda ... the generic female president as a construct would still be viable ... missus clinton's obstacles would be limited largely to standard-issue clintonisms: corruption, abuse, malpractice, malfeasance, megalomania, rape and treason ....
.... ALBRIGHT INDICTS CLINTON FOR TERRORISM FAILURE (and doesn't even know it) .... >>
And in doing so illustrates, as inevitably and invariably does every sufferer of the liberal psychosis, the core of that carefully-chosen-for-its-fifth-rate-intellect pack's problem.
Beginning with those loathesome and fearsome outgrowths of seven decades of liberal ownership, operation and control of the levers of the feral gummint's power, the recidivist, treasonous, co-serial-rapist Cli'ton-Gores themselves, not one of that gang: -- its every member, including (not-at) Albright, carefully chosen (even that incidental 'administration's' only-incidentally short ones!) for mental dwarfism, known limitations and manipulable liabilities rather than for any measurable acuity, intellectual efficiency, determinable talent or even applicable experience; -- was, is or ever will be sufficiently intelligent to realize his own limitations.
Or, whenever one came along, (which means every single despot-owner/servant of every totalitarian state and/or terrorist gang) to recognize a superior intellect, a greater determination or even and, whether --dear dopey Jimmaddy -- in Pyongyang, Paris, Peking or Planned Parenthood, in the NEA, Baghdad, the Rich/Soros/Socialist Internationale or in the ACLU -- a more evily-obsessive ruthlessness.
And/or sufficiently intelligent to recognise either those of us who, thank G-d, both own across-the-board superior intelligence -- and have only the very best ideas. And will thus forever win.
Shabat Shalom, Dear Lady.
Blessings - B A
46
posted on
07/07/2006 2:52:11 PM PDT
by
Brian Allen
(And as for me -- Give me Liberty -- or give me death!)
To: snowrip
Second Cold WarInteresting point.
I'm not so sure how 'cold' any future war can be, given the War on Terror's asymmetric nature, indeterminate but long duration, and absence of MAD as a deterrent, i.e., these two kinds of wars won't be discrete entities in the future, IMO.
47
posted on
07/07/2006 3:01:57 PM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Brian Allen
bump...
and thanx for the Noonan heads up. :)
48
posted on
07/07/2006 3:10:43 PM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Mia T
And in this, as president, she would be deeply unusual.And in this, as gubernatorial candidate's co-rapist, she is deeply unusual.
And in this, as first lady (/sarcasm), to a sexual predator she is deeply unusual.
And in this, as mother to an innocent child, she is deeply unusual.
And in this country, she's as foreign as any woman I have ever seen to the concept of freedom or the glory of life.
49
posted on
07/07/2006 9:17:21 PM PDT
by
PGalt
To: PGalt
50
posted on
07/08/2006 7:24:03 AM PDT
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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