Time for an “Agonizing Reappraisal”-Across the arc of crisis, US foreign policy is in disarray

American Conservative ^ | 7-7-06 | Patrick J. Buchanan

[fedupjohn]

Man I think we now need BARF alerts with Pat J. articles

[redgolum]

Odd article.

Pat has a point in that some of our actions (NATO building bases on the borders of Russia) are real stupid. Dangerously so. But we still have to engage an enemy that is trying to attack us. Hence, Iraq.

I don't really hold out much hope for Iraq and Afghanistan being a "success" in installing a pro US government. With the recent rise of islamic fundelmentalism in Iraq, parts are actually getting more radical since the invasion. But that really wasn't the long term goal. The goal was to put done some fly paper to catch wannabee terrorists in, and it has worked.

What is worrisome is that there are signs that the terrorists are looking for more soft targets, and not focusing in Iraq as much.

[WOSG]

"Further east, the U.S. position appears to be crumbling. Despite installation of a new government, the Iraqi insurgency shows no signs of abating, and a religious civil war has begun."


Um, no it hasnt, Pat.

How can he be so wrong?

[MNJohnnie]

Say Pat, you do realize it was this sort of utter inrationality and stupidty is why you barely got 1% of the vote in 2000? How about this Mr B, quit simply screaming the same hysteric nonsense over and over and over and tell us what YOUR solution is? Ah but that right. Screaming bile and nonsense is ALL you are capable of Paddy, you lack the intellecut to find solutions. All you can do is cling blindly to your ignornace and your hate. Just shut the heck up Pat. You are an embarassment not just to Conservatives but to all Americans. That you actually were hired to do anything by anyone in our Govt is stain on their record. Well once again the Neo Isolationist in chief demonstrates he has NO clue what he is babbling about. Love the way the Hard Right, just like the Wacko Left, simply scream their dogma as fact at the top of their lungs. Not ONE thing intellectually serious or correct in this article. Pat is wrong on EVERY signal statement. Does he grow? Does he learn? NO, here merely keeps screaming the same lies the DNC mouthpieces are screaming. What perfect little Bolsheviks they are! Seemly keep screaming the lie long enough hoping people take you seriously!

[MNJohnnie]

parts are actually getting more radical since the invasion

Source for this claim? I say your claim is nonsense. Prove me wrong.

[MNJohnnie]

There's an audience out there. Particularly one issue at a time.

Yeah, the same audience that gave him 1% of the vote in 2000. He is an irrelevant fool clinging to the Isolationist doctrines of the 1930s. They were intellectually absurd even before he got is job in the Junk Media, his clinging to them goes after 9-11-01 beyond silly to insane.

[redgolum]

For one, this article posted yesterday.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1661583/posts

And then there was one about barbers in Iraq fearing getting beheaded because they shave people wrong.

[darth]

Why does anyone publish Buchanan's diatribes? Who reads them? I cannot believe that there's much of a market for his opinions.

[SJackson]

Pat has a point in that some of our actions (NATO building bases on the borders of Russia) are real stupid. Dangerously so. But we still have to engage an enemy that is trying to attack us. Hence, Iraq.

In many ways NATO has outlived it's usefulness, but I've no problem with closer relations with Poland.

[SJackson]

Yeah, the same audience that gave him 1% of the vote in 2000.

With the support of the anti-war left, it's enough to support him as a pundit.

[SJackson]

For your entertainment :>)

[justshutupandtakeit]

Initially I thought this might be worth reading but then saw General Buchanan's name as the author.

[justshutupandtakeit]

That's some funny stuff.

[MNJohnnie]

This is the view from the ground, not the the carefully air brushed fluff put out by the ACU to validate their dogma about Iraq. So I am just suppose to ignore this and take the ranting of the "Hide under the bed crowd" serious?

Author is a Sargent with the 172nd Strykers. He is Puerto Rican with a GED but 12 years service. His English and grammar isn't as polished as the ACU types but he doesn't talk out his butt like they are either.

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Personal stuff cut out......

I could wait to tell you what we saw today. As usual we were doing our routine patrols and as we were heading back to Mares. We saw that the IP’s (Iraqi Police) had one of the main roads closed. Shortly after, we realized that they were working on an IED placed on the right of the road exactly where we normally pass by to make a right turn. This people have a great sense of bravery, because even with the limitation on the equipment that they were using to deactivate the IED, this IP’s worked with it fearless. There were basically about 7 IP’s on the ground, one with binoculars, two with a string with a hook in the middle of it and the rest of them pulling security for the ones working directly with the IED. The technique used to deactivate the IED was merely simple. The used the hook to extract the ignition device away from the round (one 155mm). After the ignition device was away from the round, then extracting the round out of the whole was “piece of cake”. I’m glad and thank God for these men, because it could hit any of our Stryker and cause other tragedy like on February 26, 2006.


Some that cranked me up was that while they worked on the IED, none of us got out of the Stryker at least to help pulling security for them. Though the Stryker it self has a .50 cal mounted and I think they were helping that way. In addition, two of my peers were just criticizing the way that these IP’s worked with the IED. Man I just wanted to tell them that if they know as much and they wanted so bad to do some about it they could go out and help them with the problem. The finally shut up when they saw when the IP’s pulled the round out of the hole. I apologize for this, but I needed to get it out of my system because in the way that I see it is that those men saved our sorry asses from getting blow up. Probably the only way we might would realized that it was an IED there is if it would exploded and even kill or injure some one. I hate the fact of people talking smack and not doing anything about it.

Well this incident also remind me couple weeks ago when a SVBIED blow up and couple minutes later an IED went off about 200 meters away from the SVBIED site. When we there about 15 minutes after all this happened, but the must interesting part is who an IA (Iraqi Army) guy crawled like a snake into the hole just to peep and see what was the status of the remaining UXO (Unexploded Ordnance). After he (IA) realized that this rounds didn’t represented a threat (at least to him), he just pulled them out like candies. Even an explosion took place, it had 5 unexploded rounds inside the IED hole and we heard that the explosion from the EID was quite loud. Now you can imagine how much damage this IED would make if it would go off completely.

[CWOJackson]

Ah, another bag of crap from the gas filled wind bag...patrick j. von Hindenberg.

[Hilts]

The old neo fascist Pat Buchenwald feels the need to quote Zbig B. (aka Woody Woodpecker) the failed NSC head from the failed Carter Presidency. Great.