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2 posted on 07/07/2006 7:52:56 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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Patrick Buchanan lost me when he suggested that we could have used containment to control Hitler instead of fighting WWII. He said the fact containment worked with the Soviet Union, proved it would have worked with Hitler.

That told me that Pat Buchanan is not very bright. The difference between Hitlers Germany and the Soviet Union was Hitlers goal of world domination had to be acccomplished during Hitlers life time. It was Hitler's Germany not Germany's Hitler. On the other hand it was the Soviet Union's Stalin not Stalin's Soviet Union. Hitler was a true dictator. On the other hand, the Soviet Union was a nation build on ideology.. just as the USA is nation built on ideology. Neither the USA Or the Soviet Union needed to win their conflict in one man's life time. Hitler did.

Thus Stalin's death did not end the cold war. The Soviet Union under a long list of Stalins successors continued to persue the goal of world domination.

The Soviet Union believed that communism would bury caplitalism. It would not take a world war.. It would just take time for their ideology to prevail. Since we knew capitalism would defeat Communism mutual containment was adopted by both sides... and Capitalism won.

Hitler needed to accomplish world domination in his own life time. That meant war was Hitler's only option with any chance of success.

If we had followed the stupid advice of a very dumb Buchanan, Hitler would have waited to attack us until he was assured he had the force to win. We would have tried to contain Hitler as Hitler prepared for war. Once prepared Hitler would have attacked us. It would have been WW II on Hitlers time table not ours. We would have lost. On our time table we barely won.

What defeated Hitler was Churchill's realization that the longer we tried to negotiate and contain Hitler the better chance Hitler had of winning a war started when Hitler wanted to start it. If England had waited until HItler attacked England.. England would have been lost.

After the appeasers.. (another way of saying containment advocates) were removed from power Churchill confronted Hitler on the battle field. As history proved there was not a second to spare.

Buchanan only knows which strategies have worked in the past. He has no clue of why different strategies are required in different situations. He is and was unable to discern the difference.

Someone once said..

Pat Buchcanan is a great speech writer as long as someone else supplies him with the words to type.


13 posted on 07/07/2006 8:30:05 AM PDT by Common Tator
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Man I think we now need BARF alerts with Pat J. articles


21 posted on 07/07/2006 8:55:01 AM PDT by fedupjohn (If we try to fight the war on terror with eyes shut + ears packed with wax, innocent people will die)
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