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Los Angeles County to taggers: 'You're it'
Valley Press ^ | on Friday, July 7, 2006.

Posted on 07/07/2006 2:59:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin

It's a case of "Tag, you're it!" Graffiti vandals, or taggers as they're known, are in the spotlight of law enforcement in Los Angeles County. Now is the time to keep up the pressure and shine the light even brighter.

Graffiti costs taxpayers, business owners and even homeowners millions of dollars each year. But even worse than that is the look that it gives to a community - it's like a big sign that says, "Lowlifes, gang members and all manner of criminals welcome here!"

Studies indicate crime goes up after graffiti comes in.

Graffiti is how gang members mark their territory - like dogs when they urinate on fire hydrants, with apologies to our canine friends for the analogy.

Palmdale sheriff's deputies conducted two operations in the last week designed to crack down on the vandals.

They went out and picked up known taggers, including a 12-year-old who suddenly wasn't so street tough, breaking down and crying as they hauled him away. They also went to the Four Points Swap Meet - the flea market conducted every weekend for decades on the city's east side - and arrested vendors who were selling spray paint to kids.

Laws require spray paint to be locked up in stores and sold only to adults, yet kids were able to buy it openly at the swap meet.

At the same time these efforts were going on here, in Los Angeles, the county Board of Supervisors was looking into the feasibility of seizing and forfeiting vehicles involved in graffiti vandalism. At the board's direction, the district attorney will work with the county counsel, the Sheriff's Department and the Department of Public Works to come up with recommendations on adopting such an ordinance, reporting back within 30 days.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: gangs; graffiti; graffitti; hoodlums; losangeles; taggers; urbanbarbarians; vandalism

1 posted on 07/07/2006 2:59:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Good, graffiti really make L.A. look like a turd world country.


2 posted on 07/07/2006 3:02:46 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: BenLurkin
Some genius inventor needs to come up with a paint or coating that sticks to what it's applied to, but to which nothing will stick when dry. Let the tagger spray away and watch the paint bubble and peel off.
3 posted on 07/07/2006 3:02:56 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: BenLurkin

"Taggers" never spew their crap on their own homes.

Wonder why.


4 posted on 07/07/2006 3:03:19 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: BenLurkin
"was looking into the feasibility of seizing and forfeiting vehicles involved in graffiti vandalism"

I despise tagging as much or more than most, but please let's not add this crime to the growing list punished by unconstitutional car forfeitures!

5 posted on 07/07/2006 3:04:02 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: SoCal Pubbie
"Some genius inventor"

Last I heard there is a coating which will make cleaning graffiti off after the fact much easier.

Either it is too expensive or there are countermeasures to it so it doesn't seem to be used as much as it should.

6 posted on 07/07/2006 3:05:31 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: BenLurkin

Geez, it's about time.
Taggers are such creepy little vermin cowards.
Penalties should be mega stiff to nip 'em in the bud.


7 posted on 07/07/2006 3:05:33 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

I agree with you on that 100%.


8 posted on 07/07/2006 3:06:02 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: martin_fierro
"Taggers" never spew their crap on their own homes.

Maybe punishment should include requiring them to do so, and then clean it all off or repaint the house, all at the tagger's or family's expense, of course.

9 posted on 07/07/2006 3:09:57 PM PDT by American Quilter (Equal laws protecting equal rights...the best guarantee of loyalty and love of country. -- Madison)
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To: BenLurkin

Well, it's about damn time. Whittier sure has become graffiti paradise.


10 posted on 07/07/2006 3:11:16 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: truthkeeper

I'm glad the County is acting.

But the Mrs. and I are still looking for a place to go to in a few years away from California.


11 posted on 07/07/2006 3:16:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: BenLurkin
Now is the time to keep up the pressure and shine the light even brighter.

Preferably a nice bright red laser light.

12 posted on 07/07/2006 3:18:24 PM PDT by mountn man (Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional.)
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To: BenLurkin

What happened to impounding their autos?


13 posted on 07/07/2006 3:21:14 PM PDT by BIGZ
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To: SoCal Pubbie

That's called Teflon.


14 posted on 07/07/2006 3:24:45 PM PDT by 308MBR ( Somebody sold the GOP to the socialists, and the GOP wasn't theirs to sell.)
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To: BenLurkin
"Lowlifes, gang members and all manner of criminals welcome here!"

Of course, if that was sprayed on City Hall, or on the Kalifornia Democratic Party HQ, it'd be considered an employment ad. Ditto for Chicago, DC and NYC.

15 posted on 07/07/2006 3:33:07 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: martin_fierro
"Taggers" never spew their crap on their own homes.

Actually they do tag the apartment complexes they infest.

16 posted on 07/07/2006 3:51:02 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: BenLurkin

I say off with their thumbs.

You ever try to hold a spray can without any thumbs?


17 posted on 07/07/2006 3:51:16 PM PDT by DigitalVideoDude (It's amazing what you can accomplish when you don't care who gets the credit. -Ronald Reagan)
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To: BenLurkin
Graffiti Illegals costs taxpayers, business owners and even homeowners millions of dollars each year. But even worse than that is the look that it gives to a community - it's like a big sign that says, "Lowlifes, gang members and all manner of criminals welcome here!"

At the risk of being accused of highjacking, I fixed it.

18 posted on 07/07/2006 3:55:02 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: BenLurkin
Acid etch graffiti is far worse than the spray paint type. Lowlifes have ruined plenty of plate glass around here -- including several bus shelters.
19 posted on 07/07/2006 4:03:26 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: mtbopfuyn
Believe me -- it is not just the illegals.

It is every manner of urban barbarian out there -- without exclusive regard to any particular ethnicity.
20 posted on 07/07/2006 4:14:28 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: DigitalVideoDude

Works for me!


21 posted on 07/07/2006 4:14:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: Ancesthntr

if it's sprayed on the Democratic Party HQ it's called an improvement.


22 posted on 07/07/2006 4:27:55 PM PDT by mhx
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
...please let's not add this crime to the growing list punished by unconstitutional car forfeitures!

Right. Let's just make the tagger tag his own car with his own gang's "colors". And then sentence him to cruise -- slowly and repeatedly -- through a rival gang's turf...

Or. maybe, tag his car with a rival gang's colors -- and send him home... '-}

23 posted on 07/07/2006 4:53:29 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: BenLurkin

tie them up nude to a pole and let community members come by and spray paint them from head to foot as they like.


24 posted on 07/07/2006 4:55:45 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse (strive on with heedfulness)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Already been done. I visited a small, specialty crayon manufacturer in MA who invented and made a clear, "anti-graffiti" coating that worked very well -- at least when sprayed on brick.


25 posted on 07/07/2006 4:56:59 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: TXnMA
"Or. maybe, tag his car with a rival gang's colors -- and send him home... '-}"

The first judge that uses alternative sentencing to make this happen will become a national hero!

26 posted on 07/07/2006 4:59:01 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: LeoWindhorse
There was a time when taggers were held civilly liable or if underage their parents were make to pay for the clean up.
27 posted on 07/07/2006 5:01:52 PM PDT by privatedick
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To: BenLurkin

It's pretty bad here in L.A. right now. Starting to creep into O.C. where I live. I've raised hell with my city on several occasions to get it cleaned up by the freeways, etc. Ticks me off to no end.


28 posted on 07/07/2006 5:04:22 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Its out there. It is still expensive though. It will coat almost anything. From your car to brick like the previous poster mentioned.


29 posted on 07/07/2006 5:06:42 PM PDT by winodog (Who will stop Bubba and the Beast in 08?)
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To: BenLurkin

Ditto here.


30 posted on 07/07/2006 5:21:03 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: winodog
Well then, when building a freeway overpass that's normally just concrete, they should paint the stuff on, and clean as needed. Same for new tilt ups, railroad cars, etc. More expensive, yes, but tagging has got to go. it gets so bad sometimes that freeway offramp signs are illegible.
31 posted on 07/08/2006 9:12:20 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Chicos_Bail_Bonds

Yes it is bad in LA, but you should see Tijuana, my company has a facility there. Every flat surface all over, outside the downtown area, is covered with graffiti


32 posted on 07/08/2006 9:31:34 AM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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