Angelides says he would sign gay marriage bill

San Jose Mercury News ^ | 07/07/06 | Lisa Leff

[MikeA]

SAN FRANCISCO - Democratic gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides said Friday that if he unseats Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in November he would sign a bill legalizing gay marriage in California.

Angelides talked about the issue the day after New York's high court upheld that state's one-man, one-woman marriage laws and as a California appeals court prepared to consider whether a trial judge erred in declaring the state's marriage laws unconstitutional.

"I would sign the marriage equality bill because I believe if we can get behind people to build a lasting relationship, that is a good thing," Angelides said at a news conference where Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., urged voters to support him.

The California Legislature last year became the first lawmaking body in the nation to legalize gay marriage. Schwarzenegger vetoed the bill, saying it was up to voters or the courts, not lawmakers, to settle the matter.

The measure's sponsor, Assemblyman Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, plans to reintroduce it in December after the election.

Clinton, who does not support gay marriage, refused to answer questions about Thursday's court ruling in her home state, but made a brief pitch on Angelides' behalf.

[MikeA]

I hope those who endlessly b-tch about Schwarzenegger on Free Republic will see the kinds of things that are at stake in this election seeing what Angelides is saying here. Yes Arnold with a DEMOCRATIC CONTROLLED ASSEMBLY has not totally eliminated the deficit, but he's shrunk it significantly. Yes, Arnold is spending more than we'd like. But do we think the alternative is better? Spending would be a lot higher AS WELL AS TAXES if Arnold had not won the recall. We all know that.

Think of Arnold as a hockey goalie of sorts. He likely won't score many goals for the conservative cause but he'll do a hell of a job, as he's been doing, keeping the worst liberal left fantasies from being fufilled. We need a governor who will stop the wacko Democratic Assembly from getting much through the net. And that includes their never-ending obsession with raising our taxes and providing driver's licenses for illegals.

In the meantime, I have full confidence that not needing to stand for re-election in 2010 that a re-elected Arnold can move to the right on some things. But keep in mind his hands have always been tied on how much he can get done with this extremist, out-there state Assembly we have.

We need to stop letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, conservatives and support this man come November, regardless of the fact he can't govern as a far right conservative! The alternative is too nauseating to even consider: going back to one party, Democratic rule in California. Ugggh...

[GOP Poet]

This has already been posted.

[PRND21]

Go Arnold Go

[CheneyChick]

I hope those who endlessly b-tch about Schwarzenegger on Free Republic will see the kinds of things that are at stake in this election seeing what Angelides is saying here.

Me too.

[mtbopfuyn]

Hey, I've always been on Arnold's side. Not that it matters since I'm not a California resident.

[Kenny Bunkport]

I b*tch about Arnold. I figure I have the right to do so, since I voted for him in the recall election. But even though he is a HUGE disappointment, I will be voting for him in November.

[phoenix0468]

Wouldn't he have to have a bill that passess the California legislature TO SIGN!!! Like to see that happen.

[MikeA]

I don't dispute your right to b-tch about Arnold. I only ask that we look at what's at stake in this election and weigh that against whatever disappointment we may have in him. I think when you do that, you realize we have got to get out and support him in November or we're doomed as a state!

[billhilly]

"I believe if we can get behind people to build a lasting relationship, .."

These people just don't know what comedy they provide to the sane world. Every time they open their mouths........ Oops.

[Bommer]

Pardon my ignorance, but if this is such a terrible issue, why didn't Rinold step in to stop Gays in San Fran from getting married?

[Nachum]

Ahnuld is forced to look like he is gay-friendly, without actually supporting the offending legislation. Angelides is such a leftist swine that he doesn't care.

[MikeA]

Schwarzenegger did just that by ordering the state Attorney General to stop them. Read on... http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/02/21/MNGEP55KO81.DTL

Don't be so quick to bash the governor without having all the facts. As the Geico caveman said "next time, do a little research."

[NormsRevenge]

The Gubinor previously has left it up to the courts to decide and said he will abide by their decision.

That doesn't mean the people could not pass another initiative again agianst gay marriage however, nothing new.

He would abide by theirs as well.

He likes to cover all the bases.

[GOP Poet]

Personally, this Angelides guy has never been on my radar. Not even for a bleep of a second. To me it is like Cindy Sheehan running for Governor--it is a joke and I wouldn't even for a millisec consider voting for her. It is odd to me that anyone who FREEPS would even consider such a slimy, liberal rat, unless they are trolling or just a liberal member.

[MikeA]

It's not that I worry about anyone on here voting for Wimpy Angelides, I worry about them sitting out the election or wasting their vote on a 3rd party nobody.

[muglywump]

"We need a governor who will stop the wacko Democratic Assembly from getting much through the net."

.....great graphic.....

[calcowgirl]

Wouldn't he have to have a bill that passess the California legislature TO SIGN!!! Like to see that happen.

Actually, it did happen--last September. And Arnold vetoed it.

Of course, had he not, there IS a method for recourse--referendum.

[TheDon]

Democratic gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides said Friday that if he unseats Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in November he would sign a bill legalizing gay marriage in California.

Hooray! I hope this is trumpeted far and wide in California!

[GOP Poet]

I understand. I think in some ways you have a valid concern in that: 1)He is such an extreme candidate I could easily doubt that many would vote for him, which could make me let my guard down a bit or 2)Arnold has pissed off and disappointed a lot of Republicans and they may show that come election day in their enthusiasm or lack there of.

My thought is the extreme positions of Angelides will push even the least enthusiastic of Republicans to vote on election day for Governor, as well as many moderate people in general. But I guess now is the time to address what the possible areas of concern are so as to address the possible strategies to insure Angelides doesn't get in.

[phoenix0468]

OUCH! Well, Go Governator!!

[calcowgirl]

The veto was a good move. But before you cheer too loudly, you should know that the same day he passed a slew of pro-GLBT legislation giving domestic partners most of the same rights as marriage anyway.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1658786/posts?page=9#9

[EagleUSA]

...see the kinds of things that are at stake in this election seeing what Angelides is saying here.
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This guy is a frothing socialist. Tax and power crazy just like the rest of the leftist mob in Sacramento. This guy must be stopped -- he would most likely make Gray Davis look like a saint -- for those of us who have spent our lives in California, watching this state go down the crapper has been a tragedy in our lives -- the magic of the liberal socialist touch. Tax, tax, tax. Spend, spend, spend.

We are in alot of trouble already -- this leftist maggot would finish us off.

[NormsRevenge]

off topic but has the gub said if he supports the Eminent Domain initiative?

[phoenix0468]

Well, you can't win 'em all. But wouldn't you agree that he is the lesser of the two evils?!?

[Bommer]

Don't be so quick to bash the governor without having all the facts. As the Geico caveman said "next time, do a little research."

The people passed the California Marrage Protection Act. Democrap judge overturned it! The mostly Democrap California Assembly voted to allow gay and lesbian couples to marry, making the state's legislature the first in the nation to deliberately approve same-sex marriages. I think Rinold problem is that he just isn't appointing more Democraps to help him out, like a true conservative would! I don't need to research, I live in reality and in Texas, not the land of fruits and nuts!

[FormerLib]

I bet this plays well in the Hispanic community...NOT!

[NormsRevenge]

That doesn't make the 2nd choice anymore palatable in the state we are in.. folks from other states look here and say why all the commotion?

most states haven't seen runaway spending at anywhere near the rates that we are running out here the last 10 years or so, regardless the revenue, it is never enough anymore.

and now to placate the dems , the Gub proposes more debt and signs off on the largest budget increase in his 3 years.. something like that may sell in Peoria, but this isn't peoria. ;-)

[MikeA]

So living in Texas makes you automatically better informed than everyone else, especially those who live in the particular state you're making inaccurate comments on? If that's what comes of living in Texas, I think I'll stick with the land of "fruits and nuts." Sorry, geography (and arrogance) doesn't trump being factually accurate.

And the California Marriage Protection Act was overturned before Arnold was governor, so I'm not sure how you lay that one at his feet. And in terms of the bill you're referring to that the legislature passed, Arnold vetoed it. Again, "next time, do a little research." Or are you going to site residency to me again?

[phoenix0468]

I feel for you. Fiscal conservatism is not a strong point of many politicians. They all want the money to flow to their district and are often willing to support some pretty silly spending to get theirs.

[Republican Wildcat]

He is campaigning to overturn the will of the people who voted directly to protect marriage in overwhelming numbers, and he has a Senator from another state campaigning with him?

[Republican Wildcat]

A simple "I stand corrected" would have sufficed rather than trying to dodge the fact you made an incorrect statement with all of that gobbledygook.

[MikeA]

And what's even more ill is that so many Californians knowing that Angelides is openly contemptous of their expressed desires, 60% of them to be exact, will still vote for this dweeb as governor, including many who voted for the state constitutional amendment against gay marriage.

[MD_Willington_1976]

Pandering... works for every party.

[Bommer]

And the California Marriage Protection Act was overturned before Arnold was governor, so I'm not sure how you lay that one at his feet.

On March 14, 2005 San Francisco Superior Court Judge Richard Kramer ruled in Woo v. Lockyer that gay and lesbian couples in California have a constitutional right to marry. He declared unconstitutional the state law that defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman. Appeals to this ruling will be heard by the First District Court of Appeal on July 10, 2006, after which the court will have 90 days to deliver a ruling

Yeah you know what your talking about!

[longtermmemmory]

I can comfortably say this ends any support Angiledes would have from the Greek community.

He is DESPERATLY pushing the Greek theme thinking that will help him the same way it helped Dukakis into the presidency. Newsflash to democrats, those of Greek decent are not mind numbed or blind enough to vote for a lame brained candidate.

This will cost him support witht he traditional Greeks who do not have any patience with this stuff. Seriously, Angeledes biggest supporter is Dukakis. Not exactly a good thing.
Just for fun check out this democrats report of his experice at the april california democrat party convention: [not "phil S." is the guy at the convention]

http://angeledes2006.com/_wsn/page2.html

""Then things turned ugly. Angelides ugly that is. What happened over the next two days was as ugly as the man himself and his butt ugly daughters and wife who have to do his commercials for him because he’s way too ugly to be on camera that long.

Phil S. characterized the first incident as minor and childish but it was certainly representative of what we could expect from the Angelides volunteers the rest of the weekend. Phil S. and his wife decided to tape up some Westly signs near the bathrooms. (You want to be reminded of the candidates you should be voting for just as you are about to unload your waste material into the sewer system).
""

and

""
It took us over 4 hours to recuperate before we headed back to the convention center. The parties are big and noisy and you have to pay for drinks. The food is free but it’s doled out on small plates and you have to eat standing up. Angelides had a Greek-themed party and so we headed over there for a while. Without the orange shirts we thought we might get treated like human beings. Phil S. caught the end of his speech and saw Angelides himself win the prize for the Ugliest Greek at the party, man or woman.
"""

and



Phil Angeledes being initiated into the New Black Panthers Party by brother Cornel West.




"You made me do it. I didn't want to do it," Phil A. wondering how he turned out to be an even bigger party hack than Gray Davis.


The above was from a DEMOCRAT

[longtermmemmory]

He is a Gray Davis Democrat

You can't talk to him without your cash.

The LA Times did a story about him and developers. I can't find it to link.

[Amerigomag]

Seems a simple solution here:

Don't vote for Angelides.

Most elected legilstors in his own party aren't fond of him.

The facial features of a weasel, the charisma of Kim Jong II, inspires loyality like a tax collector and has a reputation for integrity lower than William Jefferson Clinton's.

Yup ,all the makings of a winner. I'd venture to guess that his vote total in November will be <13% of the elgible voters.

[hunter112]

As the Geico caveman said "next time, do a little research."

Y'know, that ad has become such an icon, that this is quite effective in making a point! Thanks for showing me a nice addition to my next argument with a liberal!!

[scratcher]

This should finish him! Angelides will not win.

[longtermmemmory]

as the poster above said "he is not even on the radar"

He is pushing his ethnic background because he has no substance.

He is another Dukakis....

(wonderful ...another embarassment.)

[longtermmemmory]

no but he will use this to seek hollyweird money.

[John Lenin]

Strike one !

[longtermmemmory]

Thankfully this can only get worse for Angeledes.

(odd the OTHER states's governorship candidate of hellenic decent has quite the opposite stituation. But then again he is a Republican and supports traditional marriage)


http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/states/california/northern_california/14985617.htm
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Republican Schwarzenegger led state Treasurer Angelides 44 to 37 percent in a statewide survey conducted June 26-30 by the Survey and Policy Research Institute at San Jose State University. The poll has a four point margin of error.

A similar survey in March had the governor leading by just three points -- 40-37 -- over Angelides, who at the time was locked in a bitter primary.

Using almost non-stop television ads, Schwarzenegger has widened the gap while depriving Angelides of the typical post-primary bounce.
"""

[scratcher]

Without a doubt.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Angelides would sell his mother and children to win the governorship. I love the commercial that ran/runs saying that maybe Westly was right. I don't really have a choice between Arnold and a fool who apparently advocates taxing farm equipment?! So, Arnold it is...

[longtermmemmory]

apparently this has been picked up by all the media.

Angeledes just put on his tank helmet (dukakis Redux)

Ahnold was just handed a silver arrow IF he chooses to use it.

I love the new media...


all below from:

http://uspolitics.einnews.com/news/california-governor-campaign-2006

Hillary Clinton Stumps For Angelides In SF 7 Jul 2006 22:22 GMT
... Gavin Newsom and Angelides' primary opponent, Controller Steve Westly. Westly dismissed suggestions that he reluctantly supported ... Angelides said Friday that if he unseats Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in November he would sign a bill ...


Governor rules out tax hikes 7 Jul 2006 22:07 GMT
... Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger declared Thursday he will not raise taxes ... contrast in his November race against Democrat Phil Angelides, who wants to boost taxes on the ...


Angelides would sign gay marriage bill 7 Jul 2006 21:43 GMT
... sign gay marriage bill Democratic gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides said Friday that if he unseats Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in November he would sign a bill ... Gavin Newsom and Angelides' primary opponent, Controller Steve Westly. Westly dismissed suggestions that he reluctantly supported ...


Candidate For Calif. Governor Says He Would Back Gay Marriage 7 Jul 2006 21:40 GMT
... Candidate For Calif. Governor Says He Would Back Gay Marriage POSTED: ... SAN FRANCISCO -- California Democratic gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides said Friday that if he is elected ... trying to unseat the state's Republican governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, in November. The Democratic candidate said he ...


Calif. Gubernatorial Candidate Expresses Support For Gay Marriage 7 Jul 2006 21:15 GMT
... Candidate For Calif. Governor Says He Would Back Gay Marriage POSTED: ... SAN FRANCISCO -- California Democratic gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides said Friday that if he is elected ... trying to unseat the state's Republican governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, in November. The Democratic candidate said he ...


Democratic gubernatorial candidate says he'd sign gay marriage bill 7 Jul 2006 21:15 GMT
... SAN FRANCISCO California Democratic gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides (an-jel-EE'-des) says, as governor, he'd welcome the chance to sign a ... trying to unseat the state's Republican governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, in November. Angelides says he'd sign a ...


Angelides Promises To Sign Gay Marriage Bill 7 Jul 2006 20:55 GMT
... 2006 SAN FRANCISCO -- Democratic gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides said Friday that if he unseats Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in November he would sign a bill ... Gavin Newsom and Angelides' primary opponent, Controller Steve Westly. Westly dismissed suggestions that he reluctantly supported ...


Angelides says he would sign gay marriage bill 7 Jul 2006 20:06 GMT
... San Francisco (AP) -- Democratic gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides said Friday that if he unseats Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in November he would sign a bill ... Gavin Newsom and Angelides' primary opponent, Controller Steve Westly. Westly dismissed suggestions that he reluctantly supported ...


Angelides Backs Gay Marriage Bill 7 Jul 2006 20:05 GMT
... San Francisco (AP) -- Democratic gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides said Friday that if he unseats Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger in November he would sign a bill ... Gavin Newsom and Angelides' primary opponent, Controller Steve Westly. Westly dismissed suggestions that he reluctantly supported ...


Governor has lead in first state poll 7 Jul 2006 17:26 GMT
... PDT Governor has lead in first state poll colspan="3" colspan="3" align="left" — Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is leading Democrat Phil Angelides, buoyed mostly by gains among moderates and independents, according to a poll released Thursday ...


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Poll gives governor lead over Angelides 7 Jul 2006 17:26 GMT
... survey since primary shows 7-point gap between candidates colspan="3" colspan="3" align="left" — Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is leading Democrat Phil Angelides, buoyed mostly by gains among moderates and independents, according to a poll released Thursday. ...


Angelides says price of prison reform is high 7 Jul 2006 15:55 GMT
... (07-07) 04:00 PDT Burbank -- Phil Angelides, the Democratic candidate for governor, issued a ... for governor, issued a harsh condemnation of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger for the crisis in the state prison ...


Governor's political fortunes rise 7 Jul 2006 15:55 GMT
... A new statewide poll shows Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger largely erasing the ill effects of last ... in November against his Democratic challenger, Treasurer Phil Angelides. In a troubling sign for Angelides, the ... Angelides' June primary election victory over Controller Steve Westly, holds "one ray of hope for Angelides ...


Schwarzenegger Lead Increasing 7 Jul 2006 15:45 GMT
... Jose State University's research institute poll, California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger’s lead in the upcoming CA gubernatorial race is growing. The LA Times reports ... The poll reflects Schwarzenegger leading his challenger Phil Angelides by 7 percentage points, with Schwarzenegger at ...

[little jeremiah]

Just in case you haven't seen this.

[Kenny Bunkport]

I agree with you. I, or anyone, has the right to be disappointed in the Big Guy, but we also have a responsibility to be pragmatic. We might only get 50% of what we want from Arnold, but Angelides would be a disaster.

[DBeers]

Just in case you haven't seen this.

Thanks -supposedly this is a repeat post. I will ping the most commented upon one out...

[TheSpottedOwl]

Oh my goodness. I thought the smear tactics during the primary were bad. Obviously I wouldn't vote for either one of them, but Angelides had me fooled with his happy family ads. I don't think his girls are butt ugly either, but he is. Inside and out...