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White House to Ease Medicaid Rule on Proof of Citizenship
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/07/washington/07medicaid.html ^

Posted on 07/07/2006 6:19:52 PM PDT by lauriehelds

WASHINGTON, July 6 — The Bush administration said Thursday that it would exempt millions of the most vulnerable Medicaid recipients from a new law that requires them to prove they are United States citizens by showing birth certificates, passports or other documents.

The action was apparently intended to pre-empt a ruling by a federal judge who is scheduled to hold a hearing on Friday on a lawsuit challenging the new requirement, which took effect on July 1.

Dr. Mark B. McClellan, administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said that more than 8 million of the 55 million Medicaid recipients would be "exempt from the new documentation requirement" because they had established their citizenship when they applied for Medicare or Supplemental Security Income.

Medicaid, financed jointly by the federal government and the states, provides health insurance for low-income people, including many in nursing homes. Medicare provides health insurance for people who are 65 and older or disabled. Supplemental Security Income is a cash assistance program for people with very low incomes who are elderly, blind or disabled. About six million people receive Medicare and Medicaid. In most states, people receiving Supplemental Security Income are entitled to Medicaid.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; atzlan; bushamnesty; gummintgiveaways; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; otherpeoplesmoney; reconquista; socializedmedicine
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1 posted on 07/07/2006 6:19:53 PM PDT by lauriehelds
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To: lauriehelds

omfg.. I'm just gonna jump off a bridge and end it... I didn't think this would happen in my lifetime.. we are being overrun by illegals and our politicians are bending over backwards and looping in some cases.


2 posted on 07/07/2006 6:21:44 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: Cinnamon

Liberal activist judge forced the President's hand.


3 posted on 07/07/2006 6:23:25 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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To: lauriehelds
"exempt from the new documentation requirement" because they had established their citizenship when they applied for Medicare or Supplemental Security Income.
4 posted on 07/07/2006 6:25:11 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Liberal activist judge forced the President's hand.

Who's the judge?

5 posted on 07/07/2006 6:29:01 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: lauriehelds

Is this for reals?????????


6 posted on 07/07/2006 6:29:16 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: lauriehelds

Seems to me like U.S. citizens are the most vulnerable these days. And I'm getting a little sick of it.


7 posted on 07/07/2006 6:36:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Al Qaeda / Taliban operatives: Read the NY Times, for daily up to the minute security threat tips.)
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To: lauriehelds

More fraud, more waste, more abuse.


8 posted on 07/07/2006 6:37:50 PM PDT by csvset ("It was like the hand of G_d slapping down and smashing everything." ~ JDAM strikes Taliban)
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To: lauriehelds

buy stock in petroleum jelly :(


9 posted on 07/07/2006 6:43:47 PM PDT by no-to-illegals ('No' worked so well, perhaps another word is in order?)
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To: DoughtyOne
Seems to me like U.S. citizens are the most vulnerable these days. And I'm getting a little sick of it.

Thank you, Jorge and company! We will soon have nothing left for OUR kids!

10 posted on 07/07/2006 6:44:32 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo

yep, our government, on our side. :(


11 posted on 07/07/2006 6:45:32 PM PDT by no-to-illegals ('No' worked so well, perhaps another word is in order?)
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To: lauriehelds
Bush wants to extend social secuity benefits to foreigners--just as social security is in the brink of bankruptcy??? And now he wants to extend Medicaid benefits??? Is Bush nuts???
12 posted on 07/07/2006 6:53:25 PM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President George Bush.)
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To: Savage Beast

Pres. Bush waves goodbye to the GOP, as he awaits the next POTUS
who is the wife of his "brother".


13 posted on 07/07/2006 7:06:06 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: lauriehelds
The ultimate aim of Marxism is Anarchy. The goal of American politicians is the subjugation by the State of the population using illegal aliens as a curse we must live with. With politicians like this, why don't we go straight for Anarchy. Anybody claiming to be a politician should be purged. We would be better off without masters.
14 posted on 07/07/2006 7:09:05 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Illegal Aliens will take down the Democrats and Republicans and give rise to a new American party)
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To: Graybeard58
"exempt from the new documentation requirement" because they had established their citizenship when they applied for Medicare or Supplemental Security Income.

You don't actually think that "establishing your citizenship" to the Social Security "This card is not a valid form of I.D." Administration actually validates your citizenship, do you? Record-keeping within the Medicare system is far worse than in SSA, so that really leaves us in quite a (predictable) situation.

Our government sold us out years ago. We're merely reaping the rewards of our inattention at this point.

15 posted on 07/07/2006 7:18:49 PM PDT by detsaoT (Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
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To: detsaoT

It's time to face the fact the the hispanic voting block is massive and the fastest growing in the US. Both parties are vying for their votes. To not do so is political suicide.

We've been sold out on this immigration deal for 3 decades now.


16 posted on 07/07/2006 7:43:18 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Wristpin
And to give into the "fastest-growing voting bloc's" every whim would be cultural suicide, as the institutional corruption accepted by those of non-English cultures is incompatible with the American system of governance. Pick your poison.
17 posted on 07/07/2006 7:51:08 PM PDT by detsaoT (Proudly not "dumb as a journalist.")
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To: pageonetoo

Yep, and that is what drives my anger at some things these days. I owe my kids something of this nation that isn't just related to paying for freeloaders.


18 posted on 07/07/2006 8:26:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Al Qaeda / Taliban operatives: Read the NY Times, for daily up to the minute security threat tips.)
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To: lauriehelds
because they had established their citizenship when they applied for Medicare or Supplemental Security Income.

And that actual peocedure is exactly what?

19 posted on 07/09/2006 6:12:10 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ 2005, Texas Minutemen El Paso, Oct and April 2006)
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To: joanie-f
This should clear up any confusion over whether this federal government can be trusted.

On anything.

20 posted on 07/09/2006 6:18:20 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: lauriehelds
Does this mean thatI can file my income tax without any proof of citizenship? you know, my S.S. number?

Effing assholes!!!

21 posted on 07/09/2006 6:20:09 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Wristpin; Smartass; Borax Queen; Spiff; hedgetrimmer; Badray
"Both parties are vying for their votes."

The Hispandering Big Tent GOP will need them since they will no longer have any conservative votes. And I imagine there will be plenty of non-conservative voters withdrawing their support as well.

That Rove sure is smart.

And that will not be the end of the story.

22 posted on 07/09/2006 6:32:57 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar; nicmarlo; texastoo; Kenny Bunk; EternalVigilance; jer33 3; janetgreen; hedgetrimmer; ...

 

23 posted on 07/09/2006 6:45:13 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: Smartass

Perfect.


24 posted on 07/09/2006 6:46:50 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Diogenesis

25 posted on 07/09/2006 6:54:09 PM PDT by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie !)
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To: lauriehelds; Laura_Ingraham

ready to drop out. the world has gone mad.


26 posted on 07/09/2006 7:28:53 PM PDT by bitt (NY Times to New York: Drop Dead!)
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To: Smartass; potlatch; ntnychik; Boazo; Alamo-Girl; PhilDragoo; The Spirit Of Allegiance; JLO; ...

un-be-leeeev-able.

wait...there are so many loopholes and what ifs, that I can stop COBRA on my recent grad and let him demand services like the rest of the unwashed masses, right? equal protection of the law?

if he hits a pedestrian in his car, if he can find an illegal that was allowed to just walk away, so can HE, right?

If he gets caught using 6 false SS#s and scamming people, he can just walk away, RIGHT??????????????


27 posted on 07/09/2006 7:33:14 PM PDT by bitt (NY Times to New York: Drop Dead!)
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To: bitt

Veeedddy in-ta-ress-ting...and also veddy complicated!

28 posted on 07/09/2006 7:36:36 PM PDT by LUV W ("Rather than mourning those who have died, we should thank God that such men lived.")
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To: Diogenesis

Well, he did say, a few months ago, that she would make a great President and he could see a Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, Bush Whitehouse.


29 posted on 07/09/2006 7:37:05 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Smartass

Yep, if he hasn't said it he's certainly thinking it!!


30 posted on 07/09/2006 7:37:09 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: TLI

"because they had established their citizenship when they applied for Medicare"

Applying for Medicare is filling out the form and there isn't anything related to citizenship involved.

The only requirement is that you apply 6 months before turning 65.


31 posted on 07/09/2006 7:38:55 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: garbageseeker

Thought you'd enjoy this article...


32 posted on 07/09/2006 7:48:26 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: bitt
That's why, any reconciliation of S-2611, and HR-4437 will have to be closely studied for possible court challenges.   Among other things, double standards, and equal protection under the law.   Clearly, we can't have a two, or three tiered rule of law system.


 

33 posted on 07/09/2006 8:13:53 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Thank You AC for thinking of me. I am very interested in this.


34 posted on 07/09/2006 8:30:09 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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To: lauriehelds; Arizona Carolyn
I cannot believe he is doing this. If illegals want health insurance they should pay for it like everyone else.
35 posted on 07/09/2006 8:32:16 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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To: dalereed

'Applying for Medicare is filling out the form and there isn't anything related to citizenship involved.'

Same thing with registering for voting...

I don't think I saw any birth certificates or SS# cards being shown when the tables are set up on college campuses or in front of the supermarket...and we can be SURE the felons the dems hire aren't asking for any proof of citizenship...


36 posted on 07/09/2006 9:37:17 PM PDT by bitt (NY Times to New York: Drop Dead!)
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To: Smartass
you got that right...in God we can ONLY trust..


37 posted on 07/09/2006 9:40:21 PM PDT by bitt (NY Times to New York: Drop Dead!)
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To: detsaoT
Well, I really hate to say this, but I've counted up the most recent instances of being "sold out" and recently, between Dubya and Shifty Schwartzie here in CA, the Repellicans are far ahead of the Demonicrats!!!

Yet, of course, I fear the Demonicratic Socialists still more!!! What an abject mess... it's just disheartening...

38 posted on 07/09/2006 9:54:09 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Memo To: Uncle Sam Re: Terrorists, Insurgents and Illegal Combatants...NoUniforms... No Prisoners!!!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Well, he did say, a few months ago, that she would make a great President and he could see a Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton, Bush Whitehouse.

Why do I get the feeling we are at the same stage as the Roman Republic right about when Caesar came to prominence? The worst development is this hereditary leadership we are acquiring with the Kennedys, Bushs, Clintons etc etc.
39 posted on 07/09/2006 9:57:41 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

I agree.


40 posted on 07/09/2006 9:59:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Kozak

You got it!!! Too many people have not learned from history (of course with so many not even able to find Mississippi on a map, why should that shock us?)


41 posted on 07/09/2006 9:59:41 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: garbageseeker

I thought you might be.


42 posted on 07/09/2006 10:02:01 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn





:)


43 posted on 07/09/2006 10:12:55 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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To: lauriehelds; Dane
In before the FROBL.

Of course, for some reason I don't think the FROBL are going to pester us too much on this thread.

44 posted on 07/09/2006 10:15:57 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Arizona Carolyn; Czar; nicmarlo; texastoo; Kenny Bunk; EternalVigilance; jer33 3; janetgreen; ...

Sunday, July 9, 2006



THE NEW WORLD DISORDER
U.S.-Mexico merger opposition intensifies
Some see secret efforts to scrap dollar, end U.S. sovereignty, merge countries

Posted: July 9, 2006
11:59 p.m. Eastern

By Joseph Farah


© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

WASHINGTON – Are secret meetings being held between the corporate and political elites of the U.S., Mexico and Canada to push North America into a European Union-style merger?

Is President Bush's reluctance to control the border and enforce laws requiring deportation of foreigners who enter the country illegally part of a master plan to all but eliminate borders between the U.S., Canada and Mexico?

Does the agenda of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America include a common currency that would scrap the dollar in favor of what some are calling the "amero"?

It may be the biggest story of the 21st century, but few press outlets are telling it. In fact, until very recently, few in the U.S. were aware of the plans and even fewer denouncing what appears to be the implementation of an effort some have characterized as "NAFTA on steroids."

But opposition is mounting.


CNN's Lou Dobbs

Perhaps the most blistering criticism has come from Lou Dobbs of CNN – a frequent critic of Bush's immigration policies.

"A regional prosperity and security program?" he asked rhetorically in a recent cablecast. "This is absolute ignorance. And the fact that we are -- we reported this, we should point out, when it was signed. But, as we watch this thing progress, these working groups are continuing. They're intensifying. What in the world are these people thinking about? You know, I was asked the other day about whether or not I really thought the American people had the stomach to stand up and stop this nonsense, this direction from a group of elites, an absolute contravention of our law, of our Constitution, every national value. And I hope, I pray that I'm right when I said yes. But this is -- I mean, this is beyond belief."

What has Dobbs and a few other vocal critics bugged began in earnest March 31, 2005, when the elected leaders of the U.S., Mexico and Canada agreed to advance the agenda of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.

No one seems quite certain what that agenda is because of the vagueness of the official declarations. But among the things the leaders of the three countries agreed to work toward were borders that would allow for easier and faster moving of goods and people between the countries.

Coming as the announcement did in the midst of a raging national debate in the U.S. over borders seen as far to open already, more than a few jaws dropped.


Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo.

Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. and the chairman of the House Immigration Reform Caucus as well as author of the new book, "In Mortal Danger," may be the only elected official to challenge openly the plans for the new superstate.

Responding to a WorldNetDaily report, Tancredo is demanding the Bush administration fully disclose the activities of the government office implementing the trilateral agreement that has no authorization from Congress.

Tancredo wants to know the membership of the Security and Prosperity Partnership groups along with their various trilateral memoranda of understanding and other agreements reached with counterparts in Mexico and Canada.

Jim Gilchrist, co-founder of the Minutemen, welcomed Tancredo's efforts.

"It's time for the Bush administration to come clean," Gilchrist said. "If President Bush's agenda is to establish a new North American union government to supersede the sovereignty of the United States, then the president has an obligation to tell this to the American people directly. The American public has a right to know."

Geri Word, who heads the SPP office, told WND the work had not been disclosed because, "We did not want to get the contact people of the working groups distracted by calls from the public."

WND can find no specific congressional legislation authorizing the SPP working groups nor any congressional committees taking charge of oversight.

Many SPP working groups appear to be working toward achieving specific objectives as defined by a May 2005 Council on Foreign Relations task force report, which presented a blueprint for expanding the SPP agreement into a North American union that would merge the U.S., Canada and Mexico into a new governmental form.

Phyllis Schlafly, the woman best known for nearly single-handedly leading the opposition that killed the Equal Rights Amendment, sees a sinister and sweeping agenda behind the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.

"Is the real push behind guest-worker proposals the Bush goal to expand NAFTA into the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, which he signed at Waco, Texas, last year and reaffirmed at Cancun, Mexico, this year?" she asks. "Bush is a globalist at heart and wants to carry out his father's oft-repeated ambition of a 'new world order.'"

She accuses the president and others behind the effort of wanting to obliterate U.S. borders in an effort to increase the Mexican population transfer and lower wages for the benefit of U.S. corporate interests.

"Bush meant what he said, at Waco, Texas, in March 2005, when he announced his plan to convert the United States into a 'Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America' by erasing our borders with Canada and Mexico," she said. "Bush's guest-worker proposal would turn the United States into a boardinghouse for the world's poor, enable employers to import an unlimited number of 'willing workers' at foreign wage levels, and wipe out what's left of the U.S. middle class. Bush lives in a house well protected by a fence and security guards and he associates with rich people who live in gated communities. Yet, for five years, he has refused to protect the property and children of ordinary Arizona citizens from trespassers and criminals."

That's unusually harsh criticism of a Republican president from one of Ronald Reagan's most loyal supporters.

At least one of the nation's daily newspapers has officially weighed in in opposition to the mysterious plans for closer cooperation in security, commerce and immigration between the three North American nations.

Recently, the Pittsburgh Tribune Review questioned the unchallenged momentum toward merger.

"Will Americans trade their dead presidents for Ameros?" the newspaper asked in an editorial last month.

The paper chided efforts at replacing the U.S. and Canadian dollars and Mexican peso with "the amero" – a knockoff of the euro – along with the building of "a looming NAFTA-like superstate." Citing the meeting between the three national leaders at Baylor University in Waco, Texas, in March 2005, the editorial warned: "Canadians, Mexicans and Americans who value the sovereignty of their respective countries should be concerned."

The Tribune Review editorial saw synergy between the plans of the national leaders and the ambitious agenda of the Council on Foreign Relations – seen by many as a kind of secretive, shadow government of the elite. The CFR issued a bold report in the spring of 2005, shortly after the joint announcements in Waco by Bush and his counterparts.

"The Council on Foreign Relations published a report in May -- "Building a North American Community" -- calling for, among other things, redefining the borders of the three nations, creating a super-regional governance board and the North American Paramilitary Group to ensure that Congress does not interfere with whatever the trilateral union feels like doing," said the paper. "Must the Bush administration happily sacrifice every shred of American sovereignty for the greater good of the New World Order?"

In fact, the CFR report is a five-year plan for the "establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community" with a common "outer security perimeter."

Some see it as the blueprint for merger of the U.S., Canada and Mexico. It calls for "a common economic space ... for all people in the region, a space in which trade, capital and people flow freely."

The CFR's strategy calls specifically for "a more open border for the movement of goods and people." It calls for laying "the groundwork for the freer flow of people within North America." It calls for efforts to "harmonize visa and asylum regulations." It calls for efforts to "harmonize entry screening."

In "Building a North American Community," the report states that Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin "committed their governments" to this goal March 23, 2005, at that meeting in Waco, Texas.

Alan Burkhart, who describes himself as a free-lance political writer, cross-country trucker "and proud citizen of one of the reddest of the Red States – Mississippi," is another critic seething over these plans that seem to have a life of their own – with little or no real public debate.

"As time passes, American corporations will find it unnecessary to move their facilities out of the country," writes Burkhart. "Our already stagnant wages will be just as low as those of Mexico. The cultures of three great nations will be diluted. Our currency will be replaced with the 'Amero.' And, we’ll be one giant step closer to the U.N.’s perverse dream of a one-world government."

The Amero is not a new concept. It was first proposed by the Fraser Institute, a Canadian think tank, in a monogram titled "The Case for the Amero" in 1999.

Last month, the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America made one of its most visible and public moves since it was first announced last year. In Washington, on June 15, U.S. Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez, Mexican Economy Minister Sergio Garcia de Alba and Canadian Minister of Industry Maxime Bernier joined North American business leaders to launch the North American Competitiveness Council. It was a major development that showed the March 2005 meeting was no fluke – and that the plans announced by the three national leaders then were continuing to take shape. The NACC was first announced by Bush, Harper and Fox.

Made up of 10 high-level business leaders from each country, the NACC will meet annually with senior North American government officials "to provide recommendations and help set priorities for promoting regional competitiveness in the global economy."

Officially, the council has the mandate to advise the governments on improving trade in key sectors such as automobiles, transportation, manufacturing and services. The three countries do more than $800 billion in trilateral trade.

Gutierrez said the Bush administration is determined to develop a "border pass" on schedule despite worries about its implementation. The new land pass is to be in effect for Canadians, Americans and Mexicans by Jan. 1, 2008.

The U.S. executives involved in the NACC include: United Parcel Service Inc. Chairman Michael Eskew; Frederick Smith, chairman of FedEx Corp.; Lou Schorsh, chief executive of Mittal Steel USA; Joseph Gilmour, president of New York Life Insurance Co.; William Clay Ford, chairman of Ford Motor Co.; Rick Wagoner, chairman of General Motors Corp.; Raymond Gilmartin, CEO of Merck & Co. Inc.; David O'Reilly, chief executive of Chevron Corp.; Jeffrey Immelt, chairman of General Electric Co.; Lee Scott, president of Wal-Mart Stores Inc.; Robert Stevens, chairman of Lockheed Martin Corp.; Michael Haverty, chairman of Kansas City Southern; Douglas Conant, president of Campbell's Soup Co. and James Kilt, vice-chairman of Gillette Inc.

The concerns about the direction such powerful men could lead Americans without their knowledge is only heightened when interlocking networks are discovered. For instance, one of the components envisioned for this future "North American Union" is a superhighway running from Mexico, through the U.S. and into Canada. It is being promoted by the North American SuperCorridor Coalition, or NASCO, a non-profit group "dedicated to developing the world’s first international, integrated and secure, multi-modal transportation system along the International Mid-Continent Trade and Transportation Corridor to improve both the trade competitiveness and quality of life in North America."

The president of NASCO is George Blackwood, who earlier launched the North American International Trade Corridor Partnership. In fact, NAITCP later morphed into NASCO. A NAIPC summit meeting in 2004, attended by senior Mexican government officials, heard from Robert Pastor, an American University professor who wrote "Toward a North American Community," a book promoting the development of a North American union as a regional government and the adoption of the amero as a common monetary currency to replace the dollar and the peso.

Pastor also was vice chairman of the May 2005 Council on Foreign Relations task force entitled "Building a North American Community" that presents itself as a blueprint for using bureaucratic action within the executive branches of Mexico, the U.S. and Canada to transform the current trilateral Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America into a North American union regional government.


Related offer:

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Previous stories:

More evidence of Mexican trucks coming to U.S.

Docs reveal plan for Mexican trucks in U.S.

Kansas City customs port considered Mexican soil?

Tancredo confronts 'super-state' effort

Bush sneaking North American super-state without oversight?

Related column:

Coming soon to U.S.: Mexican customs office

Merger with Mexico


Joseph Farah is editor and chief executive officer of WorldNetDaily.com.


 

45 posted on 07/09/2006 11:26:41 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: Plutarch
Of course, for some reason I don't think the FROBL are going to pester us too much on this thread.

Heh. Yeah. I noticed that they didn't have much to say about Bubba's hearty endorsement of the President's immigration positions, either. ;-)

They were too busy trying, unsuccessfully, to slander Chris Simcox and the Minutemen.

46 posted on 07/10/2006 3:13:31 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: bitt
I'm sorry, but no, absolutely not. You can only legally commit felonies and fraud if you are an illegal alien. That is a right granted to them by Congress. If you are an American citizen, the government will prosecute you vigorously and enthusiastically! Now if you wish to give up your citizenship and sneak into America then you too can have rights and privileges that are denied to American citizens.
47 posted on 07/10/2006 5:16:39 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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"Go back to Boston!  Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims!   Get out!  We are the future.  You are old and tired.  Go on.  We have beaten you.  Leave like beaten rats.  You old white people.  It is your duty to die. Through love of having children, we are going to take over." -- Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets  
 
"They're afraid we're going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They're right.  We will take them over. We are here to stay."  -- Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Councilman
 
"We have an aging white America.  They are not making babies.   They are dying.  The explosion is in our population . . . I love it.   They are sh***ing in their pants with fear.  I love it!" "We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."
-- Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas  
 
"Remember 187--proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens--was the last gasp of white America in California." -- Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party
 
"We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country . . . I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, 'I'm going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back.'" -- Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor
 
"California is going to be a Hispanic state.  Anyone who doesn't like it should leave." -- Mario Obledo, California Coalition of Hispanic Organizations and California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare under Governor Jerry Brown, also awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Bill Clinton
 
 "We are practicing 'La Reconquista' in California." -- Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General
 
"We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos." -- Professor Fernando Guerra, Loyola Marymount University
 
"The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot." -- Excelsior, the national newspaper of Mexico  


48 posted on 07/10/2006 9:48:03 AM PDT by Kimberly GG
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To: Smartass
Good post, Smart.

Anything that spreads the word on this is helpful.

49 posted on 07/10/2006 10:47:50 AM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar

:o)


50 posted on 07/10/2006 10:51:58 AM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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