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Gene study shows sex differences go deep
Reuters U.K. ^ | July 7, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 07/07/2006 7:18:19 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent

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We saw striking and measurable differences in more than half of the genes' expression patterns between males and females," said Dr. Thomas Drake, a professor of pathology. "We didn't expect that. No one has previously demonstrated this genetic gender gap at such high levels."

(Excerpt) Read more at today.reuters.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: boy; difference; dna; gender; genetics; girl; homosexualagenda; sexdifferences; study
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1 posted on 07/07/2006 7:18:22 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: wouldntbprudent

...and the survival rate benefit from different
DNA expression is......(fill in here).....


2 posted on 07/07/2006 7:21:16 PM PDT by Getready
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To: wouldntbprudent
Gene study shows sex differences go deep

Must... not... make... tasteless... joke...

3 posted on 07/07/2006 7:23:22 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: wouldntbprudent

OK why do we pay these swellheads to do research thats explains the Obvious ?

We need to divert this money to our troops not these Nogginheads !


4 posted on 07/07/2006 7:23:37 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ( have long feared that my sins would return to visit me and the cost would be more than I could bear)
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To: Gordongekko909

Must... not... make... tasteless... joke...

Awwww go ahead they deserve it !


5 posted on 07/07/2006 7:24:26 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ( have long feared that my sins would return to visit me and the cost would be more than I could bear)
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To: wouldntbprudent
YAAAAGGGHHH!!!!

Wait! Hold on!

Okay. For a second, my eyes didn't focus correctly and I read the title as, "Gore study shows sex differences go deep."


That's it. I'm breaking out the bottle!
6 posted on 07/07/2006 7:25:57 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Gene study shows sex differences go deep...

...but some go deeper than others. Wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more.

7 posted on 07/07/2006 7:26:03 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: wouldntbprudent
We didn't expect that

Somebody needs to get out more often....

8 posted on 07/07/2006 7:26:50 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: wouldntbprudent

Who is Gene, and why is he studying on Friday night?


9 posted on 07/07/2006 7:27:40 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: wouldntbprudent

I already knew it. I'm married.


10 posted on 07/07/2006 7:31:54 PM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: wouldntbprudent

So how much did they spend to figure this out? Parents who have raised children of the opposite sex could have told them this for free.


11 posted on 07/07/2006 7:33:29 PM PDT by kalee
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To: wouldntbprudent

This does have real implications in medical practice - things like how women respond to drugs differently than men, how organs handle functions differently.

It's about time someone quantified it, so that some proper research can be done.

Men and women...different from the cellular level up.


12 posted on 07/07/2006 7:34:02 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: wouldntbprudent

Scientists discover the obvious.


13 posted on 07/07/2006 7:36:14 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: wouldntbprudent

I believe the obligatory 'duh' needs posting right about now.


14 posted on 07/07/2006 7:36:24 PM PDT by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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To: wouldntbprudent

The article never addresses the question, is it better to have evolved from male pond scum or female pond scum?


15 posted on 07/07/2006 7:37:29 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: wouldntbprudent
Interesting, thanks for posting.

The smallest differences were in brain tissue, they found.

And that is even more interesting. I wonder, if the differences in tissue are as great as they have found what are the repercussions for transplants? Formerly we thought that a heart was a heart but if this study holds up we might get better results if we only did male to male or female to female transplants.

16 posted on 07/07/2006 7:38:46 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Sign up to donate monthly and you will be automatically entered in our "Win a Bear Hug Contest")
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To: wouldntbprudent

Or they could have asked anyone who has ever attended Jr. Highschool and gotten the same answer.


17 posted on 07/07/2006 7:39:45 PM PDT by SampleMan
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Looks like we were the only ones that read it.

Oh well...

18 posted on 07/07/2006 7:40:00 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Sign up to donate monthly and you will be automatically entered in our "Win a Bear Hug Contest")
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To: wouldntbprudent
Vive la différence!
19 posted on 07/07/2006 7:40:46 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Men and women...different from the cellular level up.

But isn't that illegal or unconstitutional or sumthin?

20 posted on 07/07/2006 7:41:15 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Now that's a good question: what are the implications when a man's heart is transplated into a woman or vice versa?

And it is fascinating that the brains of males and females are the *least* different among the organs.


21 posted on 07/07/2006 7:43:08 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Gordongekko909
I have no idea how to respond, so here is that photo of a really nerdy, but incredibly cute girl from earlier today. :O)


22 posted on 07/07/2006 7:43:49 PM PDT by jdm
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To: wouldntbprudent

BREAKING NEWS: MEN & WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT


23 posted on 07/07/2006 7:44:53 PM PDT by The_Republican (So Dark The Con of Man)
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To: wouldntbprudent

Reality bites rhetoric every time....



24 posted on 07/07/2006 7:47:12 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

It does have real implication...but you know, humour just takes over some people...irresistable.


25 posted on 07/07/2006 7:48:17 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: wouldntbprudent
I do know that transplant organs "degrade" for want of a better word, over time. You have to wonder if making it same sex would extend the time that the transplant recipient has.
26 posted on 07/07/2006 7:51:27 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Sign up to donate monthly and you will be automatically entered in our "Win a Bear Hug Contest")
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To: jdm
Alyson Hannigan. Rawr. =)
27 posted on 07/07/2006 7:52:07 PM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

"The smallest differences were in brain tissue, they found."

The study deals with MICE. Mouse brains and human brains are quite different -- or so it would seem.

The article says that the gender effects the animals' organs. Note that gender originally was a linguistic term. Feminists encouraged its use instead of sex, to make the point that male-female differences were just "social constructs." They regarded social constructs as trivial. (I think that some social constructs are pretty import, like literacy, for example.)

Anyway, mice don't have "social constructs" in the way humans do, so when the article refers to their gender, just what are we talking about? It appears that the best efforts of the feminists have been defeated by a liguistic shift in the meaning of the work gender, such that to many the word gender means what sex used to mean. Well, in some usages: for example, I have seen forms which want me to check off my gender.

To straighten all this out, I would suggest that we go back to referring to male and female as being sexes, not genders. Gender is a special linguistic term not quite the same as sex.


28 posted on 07/07/2006 7:58:54 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
OK why do we pay these swellheads to do research thats explains the Obvious ?
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

Because it isn't obvious to the left or the feminists. This is big news to people whose bible was written by Betty Friedan.
29 posted on 07/07/2006 8:01:48 PM PDT by photodawg
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To: wouldntbprudent
"We didn't expect that. No one has previously demonstrated this genetic gender gap at such high levels."

I imagine that there's a whole lot of stuff they didn't and haven't expected.
30 posted on 07/07/2006 8:04:22 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
This does have real implications in medical practice - things like how women respond to drugs differently than men, how organs handle functions differently.

I have a friend who was doing his research on gender differences in cardiac function and response to different types of medication. Certain drugs had opposite effects depending on the gender.
31 posted on 07/07/2006 8:06:29 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: docbnj
Anyway, mice don't have "social constructs" in the way humans do, so when the article refers to their gender, just what are we talking about? It appears that the best efforts of the feminists have been defeated by a liguistic shift in the meaning of the work gender, such that to many the word gender means what sex used to mean. Well, in some usages: for example, I have seen forms which want me to check off my gender.

You're too caught up in the confusion created by the feminists. In the case of scientific research into gender differences based on genetics, gender simply means the difference between male and female. By the way "effects" does not equal "affects".
32 posted on 07/07/2006 8:10:24 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: wouldntbprudent

I guess we now have objective proof that egalitarianism is a stupidity.


33 posted on 07/07/2006 8:20:39 PM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Even better, what if the differences turn out to be not-so-stark in certain, er, groups?


34 posted on 07/07/2006 8:23:53 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("I'm all in favor of a dignified retirement: Why not try it on Kerry as a pilot program?" M. Steyn)
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To: aruanan

And they need tests on both men and women for these, not just men.

Maybe having quantified what is going on, it will become more of an issue.


35 posted on 07/07/2006 8:27:57 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I heard somewhere that some scientists supposedly discovered that genetically there is more difference between a man and a woman than there is between a man and a monkey. I'm not a feminist by any means and I don't believe that we descended from apes. Been married to the same man for 26 years. Makes sense to me. No offense guys. We're just very different.


36 posted on 07/07/2006 8:40:21 PM PDT by NellieMae
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To: NellieMae

A woman is not a female man. And those who want to be often get all twisted inside.


37 posted on 07/07/2006 8:42:00 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

AMEN


38 posted on 07/07/2006 8:42:58 PM PDT by NellieMae
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I can do many things that men can do, such as carpentry work, laying tile, electrical work, plumbing,drive a school bus,helping my husband do masonry work, etc. Sometimes,though, at the end of a hard day all that I want to do is go home and put on a dress.


39 posted on 07/07/2006 8:47:58 PM PDT by NellieMae
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To: wouldntbprudent
Whenever women have insisted on absolute equality with men, they have invariably wound up with the dirty end of the stick.
What they are and what they can do makes them superior to men, and their proper tactic is to demand special privileges, all the traffic will bear.
They should never settle merely for equality. For women, "equality" is a disaster.

Lazarus Long
40 posted on 07/07/2006 8:50:55 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: wouldntbprudent

This is politically incorrect science, so it won't be given much attention in the public schools.


41 posted on 07/07/2006 8:53:28 PM PDT by puroresu
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To: wouldntbprudent

So you mean having your male organ removed and taking female hormone pills doesn't really make you a woman??? I'm shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED!


42 posted on 07/07/2006 8:54:47 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: GLDNGUN

What a fun subject!


43 posted on 07/07/2006 9:02:00 PM PDT by NellieMae
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To: wouldntbprudent

DEEP!

hahaha

heheheh

How do these scientists measure DEEP?~}


44 posted on 07/07/2006 9:22:35 PM PDT by funkywbr
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How do these scientists measure DEEP?~}

With a finely calibrated instrument, no doubt.

45 posted on 07/07/2006 10:40:16 PM PDT by Max in Utah (WWBFD? "What Would Ben Franklin Do?")
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To: wouldntbprudent

I guess all I have to say to this is . . . indoor plumbing, outdoor plumbing. 'Nuf said.


46 posted on 07/07/2006 11:08:20 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I didn't know that---do you mean the organs wear out essentially? If so, that does sound like they are under special stress.


47 posted on 07/08/2006 11:32:44 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: wouldntbprudent
Not really. It is called chronic rejection. The body rejects the organ and bit by bit destroys it unless you are lucky enough to have received a transplant from an identical twin.

The closer the match the longer it takes for the body to destroy the transplant.

They use immunosuppressive drugs to keep the body from rejecting the transplant right away but unless they destroy the immune system entirely chronic rejection does occur gradually over the years.

There has been some success with doing a bone marrow transplant at the same time as the organ transplant but it is still in the experimental stages.

I have a friend who is on her second transplant, generally there will not be a third done.

You see why I find this so interesting. If we can extend the time it takes for chronic rejection to occur it will be a major breakthrough.

48 posted on 07/08/2006 12:37:39 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Sign up to donate monthly and you will be automatically entered in our "Win a Bear Hug Contest")
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Thank you. I never realized that the organ is always rejected, albeit somewhat incrementally if immunosuppressants are used and effective.

Wow. That opened my eyes.

I wonder if the genetic differences between male and female tissue would make a cross-gender transplant even more "foreign" and, therefore, more vulnerable to the process of rejection.


49 posted on 07/08/2006 5:33:24 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: wouldntbprudent
Exactly.

And that is the first thing that sprang to my mind. Perhaps we have been wrong to ignore sex when selecting a transplant recipient.

Most people think that transplant=cure. It is more like remission.

50 posted on 07/08/2006 5:44:53 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Sign up to donate monthly and you will be automatically entered in our "Win a Bear Hug Contest")
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