Self righteous? ROTFLMAO.
You wrote the book on self righteous! Oh, too funny.
Posted on 07/07/2006 8:58:04 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
The first thing a man will do for his ideals is lie.
--Joseph A. Schumpeter9
--William R. Allen
The only slandering being done between you and me is coming from you.
Platitudes don't change the facts sitting here in black and white. You are hurting a person you claim to have as a friend.
Chris Simcox needs honest friends. Ones who will ask accountability of him, and support him in doing the right thing.
Are you that kind of friend or not, EV? Or are you simply an enabler whose going to help him lose everything, and damage a great cause by supporting him without discretion?
— Elvis Presley
Be careful of the blasphemy, brother. You're really on the edge here.
I'd be glad to stay and play dueling quotations with you, but I have another meeting to attend, so I'll leave you with this one:
"Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings — that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide."
— Buddha
If you'd like us to believe that Simcox is sincere, some pictures of the fence he was supposed to have started last month (or maybe just the ongoing construction?) might be a good start.
Symbols like, $? What a travisty!
Enjoy your meeting. And when you come back, perhaps you could start to apply your own quote to how you view this ABC-inspired slander campaign against Chris Simcox.
You haven't answered any of the questions from those sources, either. I am no one bit convinced that things are open and above-board, given your response.
You know at the end of the day we still have this ultimate truth. We have someone that is out there raising money for a 55 million dollar fence that he says will run across all across Arizona and look like something similar ot the Berlin War. Now in reality we know that this Arizona verson of the Great Wall of China will never be built.Of course, we all know that 55 million Dollars is not going to be enough for this Fence anyway. It will cost much more than that. Wait till some volunteer without proper supervision gets injured on this project. The lawsuits alone in a project such as this has not been even factored into the cost of this fence as a normal cost of business.If, this guy appears on Lou Dobbs or Sean Hannity one more time and simple questions like that are not asked, I think I will just scream.
It is no longer only one source. Since the local ABC affiliate in Phoenix aired their in depth report on Chris Simcox, numerous others, including other minutemen, have corroborated the story. Other, more reputable 'ecure the border' folks (like Jim Gichrist) have distanced themselves completely from Simcox.
Geeze. You need to take a deep breath, step away from this for awhile, maybe spend some time with your wife and kids, and come back with a fresh perspective.
You know, you can throw quotes and all that crap at me all you want, but when you have to tell me WHAT the person is doing, instead of defending WHO the person is, that's a problem and it's NOT MY problem.
you have NOT supplied one answer yet. Instead you hedge, you insult, you obfuscate. There is absolutely not ONE reason to believe that anything you're involved in is CLEAN. Some conservative principles you have there bud.
Who is beating up on the Minutemen? This thread has been primarily devoted to finding out where the $$ is going that Simcox is collecting.
Since it's such a big scam, both the fence and Simcox, I'd think you'd be concerned about that.
But you seem to be like kryptomite around facts.
The MM had a lot of support here, including mine, until Simcox and money became the issue.
I've never seen as many dishonest freepers as we have here now. That's why I don't for one second think most of them are honestly concerned about illegal immigration. There's another agenda here.
Self righteous? ROTFLMAO.
You wrote the book on self righteous! Oh, too funny.
However, when money started being collected for the fence, when they started talking about a third party, and when certain other parties started glomming onto the mission, I became very suspicious. I especially became suspicious when they attacked Pence and refused to consider him as having any sort of a solution.
This is eerily reminiscent of how Keyes gained our confidence and then went off on calling Bush "evil" and then talked about reparations during his Senate run.
I refuse to support such behavior. Not only is it greedy and manipulative, but I think it does actual harm to the nation.
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