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India puts friendship with Israel at stake
The Pioneer ^

Posted on 07/07/2006 10:16:48 PM PDT by The Lion Roars

After its shift on Iran, India on Thursday registered yet another alteration in its West Asia policy. It joined 29 countries to vote in favour of a resolution at the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) in Geneva that demands an end to Israeli military action in Gaza and asks for the release of detained Palestinian ministers and leaders. A special session of the UNHRC also decided to send a fact-finding mission urgently to the Palestinian areas to assess the ground situation.

The resolution on the human rights situation in Gaza expressed "grave concern at the detrimental impact of the current Israeli military operation on the already deteriorating humanitarian conditions of the Palestinian people." Significantly, 11 countries voted against the resolution while five abstained.

The condemnatory votes came from the Arab group at the UNHRC besides India, China, Russia, Sri Lanka, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Mauritius and Cuba. "India condemns all acts of violence and terrorism, provocative statements and actions, as well as threats and intimidation," India's representative Swashpawan Singh said in Geneva.

He said, "It was unfortunate that Israel should have chosen to resort to military actions and threats in response to the capture of an Israeli soldier last week rather than employ diplomacy to resolve the matter," Singh said. The MEA here said the voting was in conformity with India's stated position on the West Asian crisis.

Having compromised to the Americans on the Iran front, the UPA Government is now under pressure from its Left allies to offer something concrete on West Asia. In the course of the past one week, therefore, South Block has stepped out of its way to offer some consolation to the Government's domestic critics through some tough talking on Israel, the latest of which is the Geneva vote.

Often at the receiving end of such harsh language on its Kashmir human rights record, India has in the past relied on friendly countries like Israel and Iran in West Asia for some sympathetic vocabulary. These are friends whose goodwill India is now putting at stake through its voting pattern, be it on Iran in Vienna last September or on Israel in Geneva on Thursday.

Aware that the Iran issue has upset its Left allies, the Government is now cornering Israel, unilaterally and multilaterally. India's position has surprised many, including the Israelis, who have consistently supported India on the Kashmir issue at various international forums; Israel flew in emergency supplies to India during the Kargil war. It has supported and echoed India's counter-terrorism measures. Also, while Israel supports India on the nuclear issue, the Palestinians hailed Pakistan's nuclear tests as the coming of age of the "Islamic bomb".

Given this backdrop of Israel's support to India's problems in Kashmir and the manner in which Pakistan has used the OIC to often beat India with, the Geneva resolution, speaking the language employed by the Left here to describe Israel's latest military offensive in Gaza, could be jarring to Israel's ears.

Back in 1994, when Kashmir was on fire and blipping furiously on the international radar, India lobbied with Iran to avoid a similarly negative Pakistan-initiated move on Kashmir at the UNHRC. Faced with the nightmare of Kashmir getting referred to the United Nations, India knocked on Iran's door to seek some dilution as the draft resolution enjoyed the support of the 54-member Organisation of Islamic Conference.

Aware that the OIC's voice could be broken by even one dissenting note, India appealed to friend Iran. As a signature of its goodwill, Iran stalled the OIC's bid to take Kashmir to Geneva and eventually to the UN. This goodwill was eroded and remarked upon by the Iranians last September in Vienna at the IAEA.


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Never trust India!!
1 posted on 07/07/2006 10:16:51 PM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: The Lion Roars

Jews, it seems, are always expendible. Where's the demand the the Palis give back their kidnapped hostage and stop raining down missiles on Israeli civilians.


2 posted on 07/07/2006 10:33:18 PM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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To: The Lion Roars
Iran imports most of its gasoline from India. Iran needs more gasoline imports. India is building a giant new refinery and wants to sell more gasoline to Iran. India slams Israel for economic reasons.

yitbos

3 posted on 07/07/2006 10:37:16 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: The Lion Roars

India, what are you thinking?! If Israel were to disappear tomorrow, which nation do you think would be the next on the Caliphate hit parade? The Islamofascists want you dead and they will not change their mind because you vote their way in the UN. They don't just want Kashmir -- they want your entire country.


4 posted on 07/07/2006 10:38:21 PM PDT by inkling
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To: inkling

Yep. The f*cking commie supported leftist govt. in power in India is making a big mistake. They are betraying a friend who has helped a lot in fighting terrorism. Worse still is that they are betratying a nation which is a victim of terrorism! Never been more ashamed of being a Indian!


5 posted on 07/07/2006 10:44:54 PM PDT by An_Indian
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To: The Lion Roars

India calls for release of abducted Israeli soldier

By Indo Asian News Service

New Delhi, July 4 (IANS) India Tuesday called for the release of an Israeli soldier who was abducted from near Gaza and urged all parties to 're-open' a dialogue for the re-establishment of 'long-term peace' in the region.

'We condemn the incident at Kerem Shalom crossing near Gaza on June 25, which has provoked the threat of massive retaliatory measures by Israel,' external affairs ministry spokesperson Navtej Sarna said in a statement.

'We are concerned about the real danger that the situation in the region could escalate into a large-scale military conflict,' he added.

Condemning 'all acts of violence, provocative statements and actions, as well as threats and intimidation', New Delhi called upon all sides to 'observe restraint, and re-open a dialogue' to establish peace in the region.

'It is our firm belief that a negotiated outcome of the long-standing conflict is the only way to ensure long-term peace, security and stability of the region,' the spokesperson said. He stressed that the release of the abducted Israeli soldier would contribute to defusing tension in the region.

Meanwhile, Israel has hardened its posture on the release of Corporal Gilad Shalit and warned the Palestinian's ruling Hamas group that the 'sky will fall on them' if they harm the captured soldier.

Israel also categorically ruled out any negotiation with the militants even as the government cleared a military incursion into northern Gaza, the Maariv newspaper reported.

Hamas has accused Israel of launching the offensive to topple its three-month-old government, which has been starved of all aid by the Jewish state and Western governments on the grounds that the group had not renounced violence and was yet to recognize Israel.

Responding to a letter written by Communist Party of India (CPI) MPs to express concern over the situation in the region, Israeli ambassador to India David Danieli called the abduction a 'terrorist act' and asserted that Hamas could not claim 'political privileges and immunities of an elected government without accepting the responsibilities that go with it'.

'Detained members of Hamas will be dealt with in accordance with criminal procedures at court, on the basis of the evidence of their involvement in terrorist activities,' he said underlining that the Israeli response was 'an act of legitimate self-defence.'

Copyright Indo-Asian News Service


6 posted on 07/07/2006 10:45:39 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: inkling
which nation do you think would be the next on the Caliphate hit parade?

India is 40% Muslim.
7 posted on 07/07/2006 10:47:13 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

Divide 40 by 3 & you get the approx percentage of Muslims in India.


8 posted on 07/07/2006 10:48:31 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
You are right, From the CIA

Muslim 13.4%,
9 posted on 07/07/2006 10:51:15 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: The Lion Roars

Isn't Israel about to establish friendly ties with Pakistan?


10 posted on 07/07/2006 10:58:18 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: The Lion Roars

This is just part of the Muslim appeasement that the present government has been following. Just a mask. Behind the scenes...


http://www.spacedaily.com/news/israel-05i.html

India to Launch Israel's Spy Satellite

New Delhi, India (SPX) Nov 14, 2005

Israel has decided to launch its next spy satellite aboard India's Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV) rather than its own indigenous Shavit rocket, according to a report in Spacenews, a Washington-based authoritative weekly on global space business, reports PTI.

The report quoting Israeli officials in Tel Aviv said that Israel's Ministry of Defence and state-owned satellite producer Israel Aircraft Industries Ltd (IAI) are nearing conclusion with their Indian counterparts of all political and contractual agreements required for the planned October 2006 launch of the TechSAR, Israel's first synthetic aperture radar imaging satellite.

"On the government-to-government level, a pre-existing bilateral accord on strategic cooperation (between India and Israel) already covers most aspects of the mission," the report said.

The estimated 260-kilogram TechSAR is slated as the exclusive payload aboard the PSLV, which will be launched from the Indian Space Research Organisation's Satish Dhawan Space Center, the report said.

If all agreements are finalised in the coming months, as expected, IAI will ship the satellite to the Indian launch site by summer, it said.

India and Israel had signed an umbrella agreement for space collaboration a few months after the visit of Shimon Peres, the then deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Foreign Affairs of Israel to ISRO on January 9, 2002.

Under a separate agreement signed on December 25, 2003, ISRO is expected to launch Israel's "TAUVEX" telescope that will image the sky in the Ultra-Violet (UV) spectrum. The date for this launch is not fixed yet.

The proposed launch of spy satellite is the second contract for ISRO from Israel. According to the Spacenews report the PSLV launch cost was estimated "at no more than $15 million."


11 posted on 07/07/2006 11:02:30 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: inkling
The government is appeasing its Muslim minority. Why else would India vote this way?

Whatever, it's the Wrong vote and entirely the wrong message.

12 posted on 07/07/2006 11:02:51 PM PDT by ARridgerunner
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To: The Lion Roars
My admittedly unqualified observation is that neither Israel nor India has ever behaved as if they had any allies, only shared enemies. Their respective foreign policies seem to be linked only to their immediate self-interest. Has either of these nations ever signed a NATO-like a mutual defense treaty? If not, they can only be critiqued for poor judgment, not criticized for disloyalty.
13 posted on 07/07/2006 11:04:42 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: The Lion Roars
India is to be a key component of the "Anglosphere" -- it's primary roll being a strategic deterrent against China. Moves like this are unfortunate and risk souring relations, thus pushing back the date by which such an organization can be created.
14 posted on 07/07/2006 11:20:57 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: The Lion Roars

I'm afraid we are seeing History repeat itself... the world against the Jews.. but this time there will be hell to pay.


15 posted on 07/08/2006 12:16:49 AM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: John Lenin

Even if it were so high, India still would be a prime target as historically, Hindus were seen as even lower than Christians or Jews and not even candidates for dhimmitude technically (at least that's what the PIG to islam seems to say).


16 posted on 07/08/2006 12:46:02 AM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: Gengis Khan
Isn't Israel about to establish friendly ties with Pakistan?

I hope they do.

17 posted on 07/08/2006 3:52:02 AM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: CarrotAndStick
India calls for release of abducted Israeli soldier

A press release is hardly in the same league as a UN resolution.

18 posted on 07/08/2006 3:52:49 AM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: An_Indian
They are betraying a friend who has helped a lot in fighting terrorism. Worse still is that they are betratying a nation which is a victim of terrorism! Never been more ashamed of being a Indian!

Thanks for being honest. A lot of your countrymen seem to be apologists for this dhimmi behavior from your Government.

19 posted on 07/08/2006 3:54:50 AM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: The Lion Roars

And what about the dhimmi behavior from your country?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1661077/posts


20 posted on 07/08/2006 5:36:48 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan

Good show by the US. Never trust the Indian Government. Pakistan and Gen. Musharraf is a better ally than those anti-semite, Communist weasels running the Indian Government. India is nothing but a dhimmi state. Musharraf on the other hand is standing upto his own people and reaching out to Israel.

The Indians take arms from Israel and their Communist backed, Anti Semitic dhimmi Government keeps backing the OIC.

Hey India, We are the middle finger.


21 posted on 07/08/2006 6:33:21 AM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: The Lion Roars

Hmmmm good luck with Pakistan then.


22 posted on 07/08/2006 6:41:44 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan; CarrotAndStick

wonder who's the real Dhimmi here????One who doesn't know where his roots are & what to make of them???


23 posted on 07/08/2006 6:52:15 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: The Lion Roars

Just a question:
If Pakistan is so important for you guys then why piss and bitch so much over what India does?

BTW just check how your allies Pakistan and voted:
http://www.unog.ch/80256EDD006B9C2E/(httpNewsByYear_en)/428C858536838452C125719D006C3E89?OpenDocument

Good show indeed. Heh heh heh.


24 posted on 07/08/2006 6:55:20 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: sukhoi-30mki

"One who doesn't know where his roots are..... "

I think he has Paki roots. LOL.


25 posted on 07/08/2006 6:58:36 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: The Lion Roars
Musharraf on the other hand is standing upto his own people and reaching out to Israel.

Sure he is. Just like he reached out to Vajpayee during Kargil.

Musharraf is a dictator. If he can so bloody well "stand up to his people" then maybe he ought to do it and stop the jihad.

When push comes to shove then we will see where nations stand.

27 posted on 07/08/2006 7:01:06 AM PDT by ARridgerunner
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To: The Lion Roars
India's position has surprised many, including the Israelis, who have consistently supported India on the Kashmir issue at various international forums; Israel flew in emergency supplies to India during the Kargil war. It has supported and echoed India's counter-terrorism measures.

It is disappointing behavior on India's part.

28 posted on 07/08/2006 7:02:12 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Gengis Khan
If Pakistan is so important for you guys then why piss and bitch so much over what India does?

Pakistan is helping us in Afghanistan. It is more dependable than the communist Indians who take arms from Israel and betray them.

29 posted on 07/08/2006 7:10:45 AM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: Gengis Khan
Good show indeed. Heh heh heh.

That attitude is sickening. What goes around comes around. Today you are happy selling the Jewish people to the Islamic beast. Tomorrow it will be your turn. We will laugh then.

Pakistan is an Islamic country that recieved little from Israel. India on the other hand relied on Israeli help during its wars. Musharraf is going against popular sentiment and supporting Israel. You are pandering to your Islamic population and promoting hatred of Israel. There is a difference.

30 posted on 07/08/2006 7:17:12 AM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: The Lion Roars
 And now Indians are commies eh? LOL. So I suppose the communists have already won with India, China and Russia in their bag. No?
 
It is more dependable than the communist Indians who take buys arms from Israel and betray them.
 
I disagree with India voting against Israel but just because we buy arms from them does not mean Israelis have bought us over. Please note we buy arms, we dont get it through military aid ........unlike the Pakis. And we have an independent foreign policy ......like it or not.
 

31 posted on 07/08/2006 7:25:49 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: The Lion Roars
Today you are happy selling the Jewish people to the Islamic beast.
 
And I suppose you are happy gifting $5 billion USD worth of military aid to Pakis beasts to kill more India. Give that lecture elsewhere.
 
Tomorrow it will be your turn.
 
We fought for the last fifty years and did so all alone and in face of American support of Pakistan. Perhaps we are now having the last laugh after 9/11.
 
India on the other hand relied on Israeli help during its wars.
 
Only Kargil war. And we fought plenty of bigger wars before that. The relationship between Indian and Israel is that of equals i.e buyer and seller. If Israel wont sell we can as easily  buy weapons from elsewhere. Buying from Israel does not make us Israel's client state. I dont like India voting against Israel at all, but remember neither Israel nor the US owns our foreign policy.
 
You are pandering to your Islamic population
And what exactly are you doing pandering Pakistan's Muslim population? If only you can manage to get down from your moral high horse will you be able to see your own double standards.

32 posted on 07/08/2006 7:43:52 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: The Lion Roars

....kill more Indians.


33 posted on 07/08/2006 7:45:08 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: max13008
A most interesting post...

"remember the 'hindu nationalist right wing' BJP?"

How many times I have seen rightwing Hindus called fascists in this forum by people claiming to be rightwing objectivists...

And yet US hated them...maybe they found the idol worshipping polytheist pagans hightly distasteful, not inline with their values.

36 posted on 07/08/2006 10:24:32 AM PDT by ARridgerunner
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To: max13008

Hoo-boy...Stick around:-)


37 posted on 07/08/2006 10:30:20 AM PDT by ARridgerunner
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To: inkling
They don't just want Kashmir -- they want your entire country. back.

The Muslims ruled India for centuries, having taken it by force of arms in several successive campaigns spanning centuries. Much of what is credited to Islamic or Arab "culture" was actually stolen from the Indians.

38 posted on 07/08/2006 12:40:01 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: An_Indian
Never been more ashamed of being a Indian!

No need to be ashamed of being an Indian, friend. You can be upset with your leaders -- like we here in America are quite often -- but be proud of your nation. Overall, India has been a fine ally in the War on Terror and we appreciate that. But you and I both agree that this was a bad decision they made in the UN.

39 posted on 07/08/2006 12:49:22 PM PDT by inkling
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To: inkling

thank you for the reply. i was not ashamed of being Indian as in cultural heritage and national identity, but ashamed as Indian for electing such a bad govt. to power. but in a democracy, this will happen i guess.


40 posted on 07/08/2006 1:08:25 PM PDT by An_Indian
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To: An_Indian

Yes, just like all of us during the Clinton years!


41 posted on 07/08/2006 1:23:47 PM PDT by inkling
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To: The Lion Roars
Coalition politics is resulting in bad inconsistent foreign policy. To top that, India is heavily dependent on mid-east muslim oil to power its economy.

You have to hold you nose to be in power with the treacherous commies and muzzies.

42 posted on 07/08/2006 1:44:09 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: An_Indian

Ditto that. As another Indian, I completely support the actions of the Israeli government. I can tell you that a majority of Indian Hindus support Israel in its ations against the PAlestinians. We somehow need to throw the left block out of power.

Go Israel, don't care about what we say in the UN, we love you and we totally understand why you do what you do.


43 posted on 07/08/2006 6:43:34 PM PDT by MimirsWell (What separates a mullah from a vacuum cleaner? A vacuum cleaner must be plugged int to suck.)
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To: max13008; An_Indian; Gengis Khan

Hey Desis,
Lets not fight over this with LionRoars. Lion, we accept that this was a bad vote. But you must realise, the idea behind democracies is that everyone has his/her say. Isn't that what the US wants for the world?

Now, lets look at numbers...Muslim parties as well as the communists are a minority in our Parliament. This means that a minority of Indians wanted these gutter-pigs in power. In fact, all the communists are voted to power from 2 states of our union of more that 28 states. One of these states, Kerala has a substantial number of Christians and Muslims combined. Close to 40% or more.

In coalition politics, parties make strange bedfellows. The party credited with econoic liberalization is in bed with...you guessed right the COMMUNISTS!! The congress government's hands are tied by these pigs and it has to dance to their tunes on atleast some issues to stay in power. You will agree that politicians are bastards. They have no principles and ours are no different.

Given this they voted the way they did. Doesn't make the Hindus who didn't vote for the commies or Muslim parties dhimmies. I hope you understand.


44 posted on 07/08/2006 7:02:02 PM PDT by MimirsWell (What separates a mullah from a vacuum cleaner? A vacuum cleaner must be plugged int to suck.)
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To: max13008
Muslims and Commies rule India today.

Atleast you are honest!! Some of your fellow countrymen are in denial.

45 posted on 07/09/2006 8:03:38 AM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: Moorings
You have to hold you nose to be in power with the treacherous commies and muzzies.

Dont worry the Slamo fascists will cut your neck pretty fast. That way you dont need to worry about breathing. /sarcasm

46 posted on 07/09/2006 8:05:06 AM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: max13008; ARridgerunner
Send billions of $$$ to their lunatic evangelists seeking to convert the hindu masses to christianity. Wetdream of eliminating hinduism - a religion they absolutely detest

India was a dhimmi state even in the 50s and the 60s. What was your excuse then? I am not condoning the attacks on hinduism by evangelicals. But that isnt the reason for India's stance against Israel.

47 posted on 07/09/2006 8:09:56 AM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: The Lion Roars
Aware that the OIC's voice could be broken by even one dissenting note, India appealed to friend Iran.

What the heck?
48 posted on 07/09/2006 8:10:56 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Gengis Khan
Please note we buy arms, we dont get it through military aid ........unlike the Pakis. And we have an independent foreign policy ......like it or not.

Israel has arms that it can sell to any country. How would you feel if they sold the Arrow, the Phalcon or the Barak systems to Pakistan. Anyways, Why argue. I hope relations between Israel and Pakistan get better. It will be their turn to have fun. You know..they can play games too..

49 posted on 07/09/2006 8:13:23 AM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: max13008
Remember to thank your stupid soldiers of christ when India becomes a muslim+commie nation...

Don't blame Christianity for Hinduism's weakness. If Hinduism had any more merit in the modern world than Zeus throwing thunderbolts on Mount Olympus, perhaps you wouldn't have this problem.

For India to vote against Israel given it's own history with Islam and the efforts it took on the part of the Maharatas to keep most of the nation free of Islamic enslavement is pretty silly.
50 posted on 07/09/2006 8:17:05 AM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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