keeps telling me that it's Bush who is the evil one... I'm so confused...
Posted on 07/08/2006 1:46:55 PM PDT by SleekMaid
Federal law enforcement officials tell ABC News a plot designed to use 15 to 20 suicide bombers on one commuter train as close to Sept. 11 as possible was well underway.
The specific target was the PATH commuter trains that run in a tunnel under the Hudson River into New York City.
"This is a plot that would have involved martyrdom, explosives and certain of the tubes that connect New Jersey with lower Manhattan," said Mark Mershon, Assistant Director-in-Charge of the FBI New York Field Office. "We're not discussing the modality behind, beyond that."
But law enforcement officials say the plotters had already accessed detailed blueprints and drawings of the PATH tunnels, available on the internet.
And like the London bombers, the plan was to load backpacks with explosives.
All 15 to 20 bombers were to board one car and detonate when the train was under the river, according to officials.
"There's no question that they are vulnerable. With the right amount of explosives, the tunnel could be compromised," said Gerry Hauer, former Director of New York City's Office of Emergency Management and now an ABC News consultant.
The FBI identified the ringleader as 32-year-old Assem Hammoud of Lebanon.
Lebanese officials arrested him in April at the request of the FBI, and he reportedly has now admitted he was about to go to Pakistan for training at an al Qaeda camp. "We know that he has acknowledged pledging a bayat or allegiance to Osama bin Laden, and he proclaims himself to be a member of al Qaeda," said Mershon.
Security was stepped up today at the PATH tunnels.
Officials said today two other alleged plotters had also been arrested, but at least five of them remain at large.
"This shows we are able to disrupt terror plots such as this," said New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly. "Secondly, it shows that New York remains in the terrorists' cross hairs."
Officials say the plot was uncovered more than a year ago by U.S. and Canadian intelligence agents watching a jihadist internet chat room.
Officials say the suspects communicated freely, thinking that no one could track them.
Similar chat rooms were used by the alleged terrorists arrested recently in Toronto and Miami.
"The chat rooms have literally exploded since 9/ll because we are now right in the midst of electronic jihad," said Jack Cloonan, former senior agent on the FBI's bin Laden squad in New York and now an ABC News consultant.
Officials say none of the plotters was in the United States but that several of them were nearby in Canada. Others had planned to travel to New York from Saudi Arabia.
Officials say even after their leader was arrested in April, the plotters continued to make plans, and officials say they can't be sure the plan is fully stopped, even now.
It makes me glad I live in the sticks.
Thanks for the post - welcome to the FR. :)
Since 'they' all want to become martyrs so badly , what is wrong with killing them all ? Or killing as many as we can get ,including all that we capture? This is what they want . Why do Liberal bleeding hearts cry out in dismay so loudly when we give them what they desire? Is it because when we take them out it precludes the murder of innocents part of their plan? Must be...
I say kill them all and let their god sort them out. No mercy!
Now we know what would have happened if Kerry was elected.
Don't worry. The DumRats are telling us there's nothing to worry about. So relax, chill out, and vote DumRat, because sKerry assured us they'll do a better job protecting us.
Yep, Chuckie Boy Schumer said these terrorists aren't the brightest terrorists in the box.
How bright do you have to be to blow yourself up?
Proper Headline: "Terrorist Plan to Kill New Yorkers & Cripple Transportation Foiled"
But of course they can't say that - it might imply that death & destruction is "terrorizing", and that our government is successfully protecting us from real threats.
(/sarcasm)
Honestly though, I want to see Schumer bash Bush for "wiretapping" terrorists now that this little plot was uncovered.
Amen!!!
I really like your plan.
Chuckie says it's no big deal.
-Welcome Neebie-
keeps telling me that it's Bush who is the evil one... I'm so confused...
It's white guilt that drives the political insanity.
May I?
Now we know what would have happened if Kerry was elected.
Now we know what would have happened if Kerry was elected.
Now we know what would have happened if Kerry was elected.
Now we know what would have happened if Kerry was elected.
Just in case liberals are watching......
Thank you.
I think this is a feint. They will strike somewhere else.
That seems to be the pattern. Democrats are now downplaying every foiled attack by marginalizing the jihadists as "dumb". Too dumb to be taken too seriously.
Not very, but I think Chuckie was, in essence, downplaying the good news that the Administration's efforts caught 'em. The way his brain works is that he will say anything, so long as it is not anything positive about GWB.
its time to start deporting muslim males
There I fixed it.
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You gotta get the breeders too.....
WoW! That's gotta be very scary. I think I'd buy a boat and forget taking anything in the way of mass transit, or even better, I'd move far out into the country like I did. I'm soooo glad I live in the country now. I can see anyone coming down my road and that's the way I like it.
Welcome to Free Repbulic! :o)
We are at war with an enemy we can't readily identify.
We've knocked them down royally here and in other countries, but they are elusive and among us.
Everyone must live with some form of concern for the foreseeable future. Fortunately, you have been protected to date.
I hope that continues.
Agreed.
Why, I'm surprised at you-- that's discrimination!
Deport the muslim females too.
Don't give them any ideas.
Welcome to FR.
the Libs still won't get it...their thinking is such circular logic!
Just finished a great book...."Blood Stripes"...anyone else read it? Awesome. Very depressing his take on how this country nowadays is just so unpatriotic and has no concept that we are AT WAR.
Yep. An "expert" consulted by the NY Times says its political:
In Zeal to Foil Terror Plots, Cases May Be Missing Something Important, Lawyers Say
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/us/09plot.html
"Carl W. Tobias, a law professor at University of Richmond in Virginia who tracks terrorism cases, said the modest evidence disclosed so far in some recent cases related to the ability of the suspects to deliver on their threats had caused him to wonder if politics might be a factor.
" 'There is some kind of public relations gained by making Americans on the one hand feel concerned that the Sears Tower in Chicago or some tunnel in Manhattan is targeted, yet on the other hand feel comforted that the government is on top of it,' he said."
The terrorists thought that they could create a KATRINA New Orleans scenario in lower Manhattan, but they had no factual topographical info. Manhattan is NOT at all like New Orleans!
"the Libs still won't get it...their thinking is such circular logic!
Just finished a great book...."Blood Stripes"...anyone else read it? Awesome. Very depressing his take on how this country nowadays is just so unpatriotic and has no concept that we are AT WAR."
I haven't read it, but I feel that I have. Or as sKerry would say: "I actually read it before I didn't read it."
Thanks, I will look for it on Amazon.
We can convert the females to christianity </Ann Mode>
None of this would be happening if Al Gore would have won...
Sure we can. They are almost exclusively muslim males between the ages of 20 and 45. Most of them have mustaches. They largely come from a handful of Arab countries in the middle east.
Oh there are some recent convert nutbags but even those are fairly easy to pick up on. They're largely prison converts with a few odd hangers on to round the bunch out.
You are right about them being among us though. But what we lack isn't the means but the political will to round them up and kick them the hell out.
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""Carl W. Tobias, a law professor at University of Richmond in Virginia who tracks terrorism cases, said the modest evidence disclosed so far in some recent cases related to the ability of the suspects to deliver on their threats had caused him to wonder if politics might be a factor.
" 'There is some kind of public relations gained by making Americans on the one hand feel concerned that the Sears Tower in Chicago or some tunnel in Manhattan is targeted, yet on the other hand feel comforted that the government is on top of it,' he said."
That's what passes for thinking from the "cut and run" crowd. Thank you for the quote, it pretty well sums up the stupidity and arrogance of the RATs. It's this kind of thinking that will sink them in November.
If they want to go see allah. I'd be happy to send them on their way. Been there. Done that. Sleep like a baby.
Give the plotters their own subway car out in the boon docks. And say g'bye.
Brian Ross, all by himself, is troubling.
Stree levels are above the river, but there's a lot of underground spaces, including train stations, as this cutaway of the future station at WTC stop (Church Street Station looking west).
...and the Atrium:
http://www.hudsoncity.net/tubes/gatewaytubepage.html ....under construiction now.
More on the Hudson Tubes page.
yes. yes.. but were their rights protected? were they illegally wiretapped by evil Bush? /sarc
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1657461/posts
Please join us! I'll be taking the PATH, too, from Journal Square in Jersey City.
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In the mid-1980's World Trade Center Tower II tenant Morgan-Stanley's new VP for Security told the New York Port Authority that terrorists would be bombing the buildings' basements. This to have one Tower fall on the other and/or have a basemet wall cave in to let the Hudson River in to flood Lower Manhattan.
He later became known as the Man who predicted 9/11: RICK RESCORLA, R.I.P.
http://www.RickRescorla.com
http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361
Looks like we're all finally listening...?
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you mean none of this would be headliners for MSM.. everything would be dealt with in the interest of the american people... "what they don't know won't hurt them" would probably be Keller's statement...
20 guys with backpack bombs in one train car wouldnt have caused the River to come pouring in, it would have been a waste of 20 bombs in one car.
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