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Kansas Libertarians stopped from holding event at nudist camp
Kansas City Star ^ | July 8, 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 07/08/2006 3:29:00 PM PDT by Graybeard58

TOPEKA, Kan. - Kansas Libertarians were stopped from holding a fundraiser at a nudist camp in southwest Shawnee County, when sheriff's deputies blocked people from entering.

Shawnee County deputies said they were merely enforcing a court order when they stopped people from accessing Lake Edun on Friday. Last year, Shawnee County District Judge Terry Bullock issued a court order banning "commercial or recreational activities" on the property unless the owners get a permit for such events - something the county refuses to provide.

But Rob Hodgkinson, chairman of the Libertarian Party of Kansas, said a political party fundraiser isn't a commercial activity. He also said the deputies suppressed party members' constitutional right to hold such an event on private property.

Gates were to open at 4 p.m. Friday, said Webb Garlinghouse, who owns the property with his wife, Julie, but an employee called him that morning and said deputies were blocking the driveway. By mid-afternoon, six marked sheriff's cars were parked along the road outside the main entrance.

Hodgkinson said the Libertarian Party moved the three-day event to an alternative site.

Shawnee County Undersheriff Don Long said his office learned about the Libertarian gathering at Lake Edun from county counselor Rich Eckert. A sign at the property's entrance said the event was to run Friday through Sunday.

Patrick Wilbur, vice chairman for the Libertarian Party of Kansas, said admission was to be $75 per person and $90 per couple in advance and $80 per person and $100 per couple at the door. Topics for discussion included property rights and freedom of assembly.

Hodgkinson said the Libertarians needed to make money so they can compete and get people elected.

"We've got a chance to actually elect people, so am I frustrated? You bet!" he told the Topeka Capital-Journal.

Lake Edun, which promotes a clothing-free lifestyle and uses the term "naturist" rather than "nudist," has been at odds with county officials since 1996.

The county insisted Lake Edun (nude spelled backward) was being run as a commercial, recreational facility, even though the property was zoned agricultural. Garlinghouse insisted the camp was focusing on harvesting fish and planting native grasses and trees.

In January 2001, the county gave the Garlinghouses a two-year, conditional-use permit, with the stipulation that they could not try to renew it.

In September 2006, Bullock issued a restraining order banning the Garlinghouses from using the camp for recreation or commercial activities without a conditional-use permit. According to court records, the Garlinhouses' appeal is pending.

Webb Garlinghouse, a Libertarian, said the weekend gathering was to be the political party's first at Lake Edun. It was to include free camping, parking and recreational activities at the lake, plus musical and theatrical performances.


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1 posted on 07/08/2006 3:29:01 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

Well at least one party is for transparacy in government...


2 posted on 07/08/2006 3:32:07 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New York Times? Get a rope!)
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To: Graybeard58

I don't even want to think about it.


3 posted on 07/08/2006 3:39:06 PM PDT by Bahbah (Democrat Motto: Why not the worst)
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To: Doctor Raoul

LOL! But Doc.......nude libertarians? Oh my!:)


4 posted on 07/08/2006 3:40:07 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (NY Slimes the paper of record for OBL!)
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To: Graybeard58

If there's freedom to own a nudist camp, then surely there's freedom to hold a fundraiser on that camp!


5 posted on 07/08/2006 3:41:06 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|The IRA are actually terrorists, any questions?)
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To: Graybeard58

How much are they willing to pay? I know a few farmers who wouldn't mind renting out a field if the price is right and they clean up after themselves.


6 posted on 07/08/2006 3:44:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: Graybeard58

Time to start planting plenty of poison ivy and oak at Lake Edun...sort of as a 'naturist' repellant..ehehehe.


7 posted on 07/08/2006 3:44:52 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: Graybeard58

We'll be ok if no-one posts pictures.


8 posted on 07/08/2006 3:45:18 PM PDT by Disambiguator (I'm not paranoid, just pragmatic.)
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To: Graybeard58

Be the last time I ever let some Libertarian on any of these threads try to beat me down when I refer to them as "Libertarian/Libertines".


9 posted on 07/08/2006 3:47:14 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: Graybeard58
This type of situation unfortunately gives libertarians a bad name. No doubt that the large majority of folks who would call themselves libertarians in the US have no interest whatsover in attending political events at nudist camps. Those who do are better described as libertines.
10 posted on 07/08/2006 3:47:46 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: tflabo
Time to start planting plenty of poison ivy and oak at Lake Edun

Don't forget the extra large size African mosquitoes ... :)

11 posted on 07/08/2006 3:51:21 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: justiceseeker93

I used to consider myself to be libertarian but I couldn't get past the everything goes attitude of some candidates.


12 posted on 07/08/2006 3:57:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: cripplecreek
Hodgkinson said the Libertarians needed to make money so they can compete and get people elected.

Insert bad joke here.
13 posted on 07/08/2006 3:58:58 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: tflabo

I wonder how the judge would feel if it were his own political party.


14 posted on 07/08/2006 4:00:01 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Graybeard58

My wife's uncle and aunt, who had led a fairly sheltered existence in very conservative community their entire lives, took a trip to France in the late 1980s. By and by their tour took them to a beach where nudity was not only tolerated but celebrated. We were teasing her uncle about it and he said, "There wasn't anything pornographic about it at all. I've never seen so many ugly people in my life!"


15 posted on 07/08/2006 4:02:01 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Graybeard58
Hodgkinson said the Libertarians needed to make money so they can compete and get people elected.

"We've got a chance to actually elect people, so am I frustrated? You bet!" he told the Topeka Capital-Journal.

The police were probably concerned that people would hurt themselves from laughing too hard.

16 posted on 07/08/2006 4:03:23 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Graybeard58

Aw sh*t... we've got several nudist camps within 30 miles of here, and we don't have a moment's problem with any of them (or their patrons).

We sell lots of mosquito dope tho.....


17 posted on 07/08/2006 4:15:58 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: Graybeard58
While this is typical of the Libertarian idiocy, what is less funny is the Libertarian Reason magazine's (online) attempt to smear Michelle Malkin as driving some lesbian college president to suicide: Here
18 posted on 07/08/2006 4:19:01 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: JCEccles

Come to think of it......men in those tight European speedo thingy's that they call bathing suits are much worse than "au natural", IMHO, of course. :)


19 posted on 07/08/2006 4:22:16 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (NY Slimes the paper of record for OBL!)
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To: Graybeard58
Topics for discussion included property rights and freedom of assembly.

I guess the sheriff's action proves exactly the point the Libertarians are trying to make. They were making political speech, the most protected kind, on private property at the invitation of the owner.

20 posted on 07/08/2006 4:29:00 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Graybeard58

OK - I question the motivation behind a nudist fundraiser for libertarians... but on the other hand - it IS private property. And from what I hear - it is located in an area that any such activity is not likely to disturb anyone else.


21 posted on 07/08/2006 4:31:40 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of a Cancer on Society)
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To: Graybeard58

I thought Libertarians were all for hemp clothing?


22 posted on 07/08/2006 4:52:01 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Yeah, I've got an axe to grind...what else would you use on Leftists?)
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To: Graybeard58
20 more losertarians were scheduled to attend but they were to stoned too make it.
23 posted on 07/08/2006 4:55:31 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Graybeard58

So those wanting to contribute to Libertarians had to pull a checkbook out of their butts? LOL


24 posted on 07/08/2006 4:57:23 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Graybeard58

The problem with holding a political fundraiser at a nudist camp is the lack of deep pockets, or any pockets.


25 posted on 07/08/2006 5:03:28 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Graybeard58
a fundraiser at a nudist camp

Nothing says "credibility and gravitas" like a fundraiser at a nudist colony ...

Lake Edun

Get it?

26 posted on 07/08/2006 5:30:16 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Graybeard58; labette; Clintonfatigued; JohnnyZ; AuH2ORepublican; Kuksool; AntiGuv; LdSentinal; ...
Some things just speak for themselves...
27 posted on 07/08/2006 5:56:28 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Graybeard58
Kansas Libertarians stopped from holding event at nudist camp

I thought the point was to raise money, not frighten people to death.

28 posted on 07/08/2006 6:01:10 PM PDT by RichInOC (The people who like to be naked all the time are usually the ones who should NEVER be naked.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Kansas Libertarians were stopped from holding a fundraiser ...Webb Garlinghouse, who owns the property ... Topics for discussion included property rights ...

Kind of ironic I'd say.

29 posted on 07/08/2006 6:04:55 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: TheBattman
...it IS private property. And from what I hear - it is located in an area that any such activity is not likely to disturb anyone else.

There seems to be a message here. No freedom of speech without a permit, which the county had no intention of issuing in the first place. As for motivation behind the location... ask yourself if this would have made the news if it had been at a private restaurant. And if you answer "yes" think back to the last set of presidential candidate debates and try to remember the press talking about Badnarik getting arrested.
30 posted on 07/08/2006 6:08:04 PM PDT by Renderofveils
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To: calcowgirl

Darn. And all those clams and sausages are going to go uneaten.


31 posted on 07/08/2006 6:38:20 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Graybeard58
Dang those librarians and their transparency-

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32 posted on 07/08/2006 6:42:06 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: Renderofveils
>>...it IS private property.
There seems to be a message here. No freedom of speech without a permit,

If it was a 'clothing required' event, I wonder if they still would have required a permit.

33 posted on 07/08/2006 6:46:03 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: rzeznikj at stout; N3WBI3; MikefromOhio; FLAMING DEATH; Petronski

Ping-0


34 posted on 07/08/2006 6:47:47 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: Graybeard58

Why is it these things are always being held by the wrong people? Now... if it were the Kansas City Chiefs cheerleaders - then you'd have something!


35 posted on 07/08/2006 7:02:32 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Perdogg
I wonder how the judge would feel if it were his own political party.

Probably embarassed.

36 posted on 07/08/2006 7:06:03 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: Renderofveils

You have a point there about publicity by having it at that location - and I would imagine that the foreknowledge that no permit would be granted was more reason to try to have it there -


37 posted on 07/08/2006 7:49:09 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of a Cancer on Society)
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To: TheBattman

The real shame of this matter is that the Libertarian party feels the need (even if it IS warranted) to stoop to these kinds of stunts to attract even the periphery of a spotlight. It seems as though Decorum is following the footsteps of Chivalry.


38 posted on 07/08/2006 8:14:59 PM PDT by Renderofveils
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To: rzeznikj at stout; N3WBI3; MikefromOhio; FLAMING DEATH; Petronski; antiRepublicrat; ...


Thread Jester Ping

A low-volume pinglist dedicated for all the thread jesters out there--you know who you are...8^)

FReepmail rzeznikj at stout or MikefromOhio to be added or removed from the list...

Thanks to ARealMothersSonForever for the heads up...8^)

39 posted on 07/08/2006 8:54:14 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: TheBattman

But how would the Libertarians carry their concealed weapons?


40 posted on 07/08/2006 8:54:37 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: Graybeard58

When I used to write for a magazine, I once made the gubernatorial candidate for the Oklahoma libertarian party cry during the interview because he had no answers.

I've not had respect for ANY libertarian since then. They still have no answers--for anything.


41 posted on 07/08/2006 8:59:28 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
Shawnee County Undersheriff Don Long

...together with his Chinese police dog, Won Hung Lo, ...

42 posted on 07/08/2006 9:04:35 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

LOL


43 posted on 07/08/2006 9:07:51 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: rzeznikj at stout
This is even more sinister than the article indicated. It has to do with the Santa Librarians:

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44 posted on 07/08/2006 9:07:54 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

Er, OK...


45 posted on 07/08/2006 9:08:43 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: grey_whiskers
from county counselor Rich Eckert

Must resist the Eckert joke.....Since Dick is known to everyone in town.

46 posted on 07/08/2006 9:10:33 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: BlazingArizona
I guess the sheriff's action proves exactly the point the Libertarians are trying to make. They were making political speech, the most protected kind, on private property at the invitation of the owner.

Yeah, but according to many here, it's o.k. to suppress someone's constitutional rights as long as its just those wacky Libertarians that are being harassed by the government. 

47 posted on 07/08/2006 10:19:59 PM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place.)
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To: zeugma; BlazingArizona

"Yeah, but according to many here, it's o.k. to suppress someone's constitutional rights as long as its just those wacky Libertarians that are being harassed by the government."

Yep, I'm not about to say I approve of their forum choice...but geez, talk about missing the forest for the trees. People seem to think because the forum or the group is not their own preference, it's okay that the thing was shut down. I hope the GOP doesn't try to meet at a mall in that county any time soon. The same rules apply.


48 posted on 07/09/2006 1:29:13 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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To: LibertarianInExile
I hope the GOP doesn't try to meet at a mall in that county any time soon. The same rules apply.

You are mistaken if you think the same rules would apply to a metting of Republicans or Democrats. :-(

I'm constantly amazed at the number of people here without even a passing grasp of what freedom and liberty means.

49 posted on 07/09/2006 10:29:03 AM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place.)
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To: Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Allosaurs_r_us; Americanwolf; Americanwolfsbrother; Annie03; ...
You gotta love the "conservative" hypoctites on this thread. im sure they wont say anything at all if the dems use armed police to shut down a republican fundraser anywhere in this country during this election cycle right?

Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here

50 posted on 07/09/2006 3:37:27 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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