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Elderly Driver Plows Into Pedestrians, Injuring 27 (Connecticut)
NBC30.com (WVIT) ^ | UPDATED: 12:09 am EDT July 9, 2006 | WVIT Channel 30

Posted on 07/08/2006 9:33:11 PM PDT by nutmeg

Driver: Gas Pedal Got Stuck

NEW LONDON, Conn. -- More than two dozen people were injured -- two of them seriously -- when a station wagon plowed through a crowd of people in New London during the annual Sailfest Saturday afternoon.

Twenty-seven people were injured and were taken to Lawrence and Memorial Hospital, officials said.

The incident happened around 3:30 p.m. near the Amtrak station.

Officials said the driver -- identified as Robert Laine, 89, of Wallingford -- was heading across the train tracks toward to the Fishers Island ferry when the car struck a pedestrian and lurched forward into the crowd.

Laine was not injured. There was also a female passenger in the car. She was not injured either.

Laine told witnesses the gas pedal stuck. Police said it is too premature to pinpoint a cause. They said the investigation is continuing.

Hospital spokesman Kelly Anthony said most of those hurt susffered cuts and bruises and were treated and released. The two most seriously injured, whose names have not been released, were still being evaluated Saturday night.

The waterfront city was holding its annual Sailfest, which brings thousands of visitors to the downtown area. About 200,000 are expected for the fireworks show Saturday night over the Thames River.


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1 posted on 07/08/2006 9:33:13 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: RaceBannon; scoopscandal; 2Trievers; LoneGOPinCT; Rodney King; sorrisi; MrSparkys; monafelice; ...

Connecticut ping!

Please Freepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent Connecticut ping list.

2 posted on 07/08/2006 9:33:52 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: nutmeg
I might get slammed for this, but I don't think people over 85 should be driving on the roads nowadays. Too many wacko drivers out there that treat even neighborhood streets as a NASCAR track. To top it off you have a never ending supply of women driving SUV's while yakking away on cell phones probably gossiping with other women on cell phones driving SUV's too. Put those two together with some senior citizen that can barely look over a steering wheel and probably has artificial knees or a hip replacement and it's a disaster waiting to happen.

BTW, yesterday I was on a main thoroughfare in my town and some older lady stopped traffic in the middle of the road to ask a construction worker who was setting up cones around a manhole for directions. Just a related note.
3 posted on 07/08/2006 9:41:57 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: The South Texan

I would peg it at 80. The odds of a fatal seisure alone at that age is very high.


4 posted on 07/08/2006 9:50:30 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Taglines for sale or rent. Good "one liners", 50 cents.)
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To: The South Texan

Don't agree on an age limit. An "Ability-to-Drive" test
is more appropiate. I have a neighbor who is 80. She took me to PU my car that was being serviced. I had no problem
with her driving.
You too will age. Remember what you posted here.


5 posted on 07/08/2006 9:54:08 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: The South Texan
If nothing else, drivers should be re-tested on a regular basis once they reach the age of 60.

I don't think it's a coincidence that a disproportionate number of these "the accelerator pedal got stuck" accidents involve elderly drivers.

6 posted on 07/08/2006 9:55:57 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: The South Texan

I'm not going to slam you. But I don't think there should be a cut off at a certain age ... some people are fully functional at 85. There should be mandatory testing after a certain age.


7 posted on 07/08/2006 9:57:08 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: TaMoDee

An "Ability-to-Drive" test is more appropiate.

Though I don't have a link handy I can remember coming across a post about how the elderly in one town refused to take even THAT sort of step. No offense but the elderly seem to be quite insensitive to the concerns of others when it comes driving safety.


8 posted on 07/08/2006 9:59:12 PM PDT by KantianBurke (We Cannot Civilize, But We Can Neutralize)
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To: KantianBurke

BS


9 posted on 07/08/2006 10:02:14 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: nutmeg

Why is it that gas pedals only stick open in old peoples cars?


10 posted on 07/08/2006 10:04:38 PM PDT by skip_intro
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To: nutmeg

>>Laine told witnesses the gas pedal stuck.<<

To his foot.


11 posted on 07/08/2006 10:06:35 PM PDT by RobRoy (The Internet is doing to Evolution what it did to Dan Rather. Information is power.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I simple test is sufficient.

Age discrimination, you know.


12 posted on 07/08/2006 10:07:23 PM PDT by RobRoy (The Internet is doing to Evolution what it did to Dan Rather. Information is power.)
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To: TaMoDee

I admitted I couldn't remember / find the thread. - shrugs -Take it with a grain of salt if you want. What motive could I have for lying on an annoymous chat site??


13 posted on 07/08/2006 10:07:33 PM PDT by KantianBurke (We Cannot Civilize, But We Can Neutralize)
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To: KantianBurke

>>No offense but the elderly seem to be quite insensitive to the concerns of others when it comes driving safety.<<

What do you mean by "the" elderly?

Which ones.


14 posted on 07/08/2006 10:09:07 PM PDT by RobRoy (The Internet is doing to Evolution what it did to Dan Rather. Information is power.)
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To: nutmeg
"when a station wagon plowed through a crowd of people"

Do they still make station wagons?

Wonder how old the vehicle was...

15 posted on 07/08/2006 10:13:42 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: nutmeg

Another reason to avoid parades of any sort; I old that boy to quit driving ten years ago but them kids just won't listen.


16 posted on 07/08/2006 10:26:00 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: skip_intro

>>>Why is it that gas pedals only stick open in old peoples cars?<<<

because they they sieze....hehe


17 posted on 07/08/2006 10:28:04 PM PDT by jneesy
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To: The South Texan

You're a tad late but welcome to the show; sometimes these things go on for days.

Most of the time we celebrate superannuation as an heroic feat except for those few times when the codger emulates the artful dodger and the we all scream for grandpa's head.

When will they ever learn to just move over and make room?


18 posted on 07/08/2006 10:30:57 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

"I would peg it at 80. The odds of a fatal seisure alone at that age is very high."

My mother is 84. Has had ZERO accidents and ZERO tickets. Can you say that?


19 posted on 07/08/2006 10:32:47 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: nutmeg
Reminds me of the coot who plowed through a Santa Monica crowd a few years back. Some old timers lose their marbles while behind the wheel and tragedy strikes.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

20 posted on 07/08/2006 10:33:15 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: The South Texan
BTW, yesterday I was on a main thoroughfare in my town and some older lady stopped traffic in the middle of the road to ask a construction worker who was setting up cones around a manhole for directions. Just a related note.

I have had to dodge at least three people in the last two months on the highway. ALL were 30-something females talking on their cell phones.

21 posted on 07/08/2006 10:35:29 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: Alberta's Child

"If nothing else, drivers should be re-tested on a regular basis once they reach the age of 60."

Does anyone think it's scary that you think people should be tested once they reach 60. Does that include President Bush who is running a country? How about the majority of people in Congress who are responsible for running our country?


22 posted on 07/08/2006 10:37:00 PM PDT by Merry
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To: The South Texan

Sorry for the missing letters in my posts; for whatever reason my keyboard feels right, but on rereading I notice that I'm missing the rest of the word.

Anyway, the truth is that we can't simply deny a right or privilege based on age or assumed infirmity nor can we expect the world to be made free of risk, I guess we must stumble forward as best we can.


23 posted on 07/08/2006 10:37:29 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Merry
Most of the people you've mentioned probably haven't driven on public roads in years.

And no, there's nothing "scary" about requiring people to undergo periodic road testing after they reach a certain age. There isn't a single human body function that doesn't decline over time, and you'd probably be shocked at just how poor your typical retiree functions by any measure (vision, motor skills, mental sharpness, etc.) compared to people in the 18-50 age group.

24 posted on 07/08/2006 10:44:17 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: goldstategop
I've always wanted to die quietly and peacefully in my sleep, just like my grandfather did . . .

. . . unlike his passengers, who probably went to their deaths screaming in terror.

Heh-heh.

25 posted on 07/08/2006 10:47:42 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: OmahaFields
Perhaps annual or bi-annual testing for those over a certain age. My dad is 82 and finally got called in by DMV for a test after a fender-bender. The driving test couldn't have been any more like "Titanic" if Winslet and DiCaprio had been necking in the back seat and there'd been an orchestra on the hood playing "Nearer my God to Thee". Yet many of his friends who are older undoubtedly drive better and have faster reaction times than I do.

However this is something the AARP crowd will fight to the end over, no matter how many of these incidents occur. Depriving someone of a driver's license is a blow to their independence. My dad lives out in the country for example; I've had to be the chauffeur ever since which he hates. But it's much better than having an accident.

26 posted on 07/08/2006 10:49:48 PM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: Alberta's Child
compared to people in the 18-50 age group.

That 18 year old may have better reflexes but he has a whole lot of hormones and almost no real-road experience. How many elderlies do you see wiping out at 100+ on a surburban street?

27 posted on 07/08/2006 10:50:35 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: Heatseeker

It is a problem with no easy answer. I work with my mother. She has been a good driver all her life and wants to continue. Driving at night is a no-no. We work out her routes to avoid the bad areas. Make three right turns and a left at the light instead of having to make a left across fast moving traffic where there is no light. Shop at Kmart instead of Walmart since the parking lot is so empty!


28 posted on 07/08/2006 10:56:32 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: skip_intro
Why is it that gas pedals only stick open in old peoples cars?

I've heard that what these people do is drive using both feet - left on the brake and right on the gas. Then when a split decision must be made they just plunge the wrong foot down. T'would be an easy mistake to make if you drive with both feet.

My brother recently told me he drives with both feet and I told him that's how those accidents occur and I think it freaked him out and he stopped doing it. At least I hope he stopped.

29 posted on 07/08/2006 11:01:30 PM PDT by Musket
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To: OmahaFields
True -- an elderly driver is more likely to get involved in an accident at 100 feet per hour on a suburban street. But how many teenagers do you hear about getting involved in these accidents in which "the gas pedal gets stuck" and the car plows through the front window of a department store?
30 posted on 07/08/2006 11:02:08 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Musket
Interesting. I would have thought that younger drivers would be more likely to drive with both feet -- since most older drivers probably learned to drive cars with standard transmissions -- where you really CAN'T use two different feet for the gas and brake pedals.
31 posted on 07/08/2006 11:03:57 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child
But how many teenagers do you hear about getting involved in these accidents in which "the gas pedal gets stuck" and the car plows through the front window of a department store?

Most of the teenage accidents are where the foot is stuck on stupid and they plow through a car killing all three occupants of the other car.

32 posted on 07/08/2006 11:06:20 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Maybe older drivers just get lazy? I don't know. You're right though, you don't ever hear about teens plowing into crowds. Beats me. I'm just passing along what I've heard - and it seems to make sense.;-)


33 posted on 07/08/2006 11:10:25 PM PDT by Musket
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To: OmahaFields
Believe me, I can sympathize, but I would not assume that these techniques are a permanent solution. Sooner or later there is going to be a situation where quick reaction time is required.

My dad was a great driver all his life, never had an accident that I can recall. It meant absolutely nothing in the end; he was playing russian roulette with his own neurology.

34 posted on 07/08/2006 11:14:52 PM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: Musket

35 posted on 07/08/2006 11:16:56 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: Heatseeker
Believe me, I can sympathize, but I would not assume that these techniques are a permanent solution. Sooner or later there is going to be a situation where quick reaction time is required.

Yes. That is what I tell my mother. There are a lot of crazy bad drivers out there that will nail here at high speed and she no longer has the reflexes to avoid these dangerous drivers. It is really scarey what you see these out of control maniacs do.

36 posted on 07/08/2006 11:19:03 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: Musket
You're right though, you don't ever hear about teens plowing into crowds.

Drivers over the age of 75 have the highest accident rate per mile of any age group except for the 18 to 25.

37 posted on 07/08/2006 11:21:08 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: The South Texan

BTW, yesterday I was on a main thoroughfare in my town and some older lady stopped traffic in the middle of the road to ask a construction worker who was setting up cones around a manhole for directions. Just a related note



Probably a No Hable Ingles.

Also, I personally don't like age barriers for airline pilots or driving a car. Check the reactions of a person. That's what matters. A lot of people who use cell phones and put on makeup should not be driving, IMO.


38 posted on 07/08/2006 11:21:42 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: OmahaFields
ALL were 30-something females talking on their cell phones.

And I had to dodge a 40 something year old man yesterday who was talking on his cell phone. He never even knew he had almost caused a multi-car accident.

39 posted on 07/08/2006 11:23:58 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: goldstategop
Was it this old coot:

40 posted on 07/08/2006 11:25:17 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!--Keep your "compassion" away from my wallet!)
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To: nutmeg
Families should take on the task of keeping those elderly off the road who are showing "the signs".

One of the hardest and saddest things I ever had to do was convince my Dad it was time to hang up his keys. It would have killed him if he had ever hurt/injured someone.

41 posted on 07/08/2006 11:27:54 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: OmahaFields
http://www.wreckedexotics.com/

Lol. Boy, there's a web site for everything isn't there.

42 posted on 07/08/2006 11:32:24 PM PDT by Musket
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To: nutmeg
Well, get to the point !

What religion was this guy ?


43 posted on 07/08/2006 11:43:27 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Musket
Obviously a little ol' lady coming home from church.


44 posted on 07/08/2006 11:46:15 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: Musket
Here is the other half.


45 posted on 07/08/2006 11:48:57 PM PDT by OmahaFields ("What have been its fruits? ... superstition, bigotry and persecution.")
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To: The South Texan; stephenjohnbanker

I don't agree with an age limit for driving. If you want to test people, that's fine, but if they pass it, let them drive. Just because someone is older doesn't automatically make them bad drivers. I have run into really dangerous young drivers. In my view, it simply depends upon the individual.


46 posted on 07/09/2006 12:27:11 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: nutmeg

47 posted on 07/09/2006 2:15:11 AM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: The South Texan

" . . . I don't think people over 85 should be driving on the roads nowadays."

They don't. They drive on sidewalks, apparently.

Seriously, I agree with those who recommend testing after a certain age, and in some cases, an 'as need' basis.


48 posted on 07/09/2006 2:28:11 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: goldstategop

"coot"

Easy, I'm sure you hope to be a . . well, a coot, someday.


49 posted on 07/09/2006 2:31:06 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: The South Texan

You won't get a slam from me, but my grandmother, who turns 79 this November, is still the safest driver I know, including myself. But as for soccer moms in SUV's yakking away on cell phones, I see it everytime I drive to work. Those are the ones that need to have some remedial drivers ed...


50 posted on 07/09/2006 2:39:07 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("By the time I'm finished with you, you're gonna wish you felt this good again" - Jack Bauer)
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