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'Arrrrr!'
The Chicago Tribune ^ | July 9, 2006 | Steve Knopper

Posted on 07/09/2006 6:51:04 AM PDT by SuzyQ2

"When you look at the golden age of piracy, 1692 to about 1725, pirates were considered what they in fact were -- ruthless brigands, murderers, thieves," says W. Thomas Smith Jr., co-author of "The Complete Idiot's Guide to Pirates." "Robert Louis Stevenson's book romanticized pirates and made them very personable. That was taken a step further with the story of 'Peter Pan,' where Captain Hook was loosely based on the image of Blackbeard -- and as we all know, Blackbeard was a horrible guy."

So, Mr. Smith, who's your favorite pirate? "I would have to say, I guess, Blackbeard -- it's kind of fun to read about the really bad. He was so colorful, lighting the fuses with his beard, and there's the legend of when he was beheaded, the body swam around the ship several times. He was absolutely, utterly fascinating."

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1 posted on 07/09/2006 6:51:09 AM PDT by SuzyQ2
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2 posted on 07/09/2006 7:13:53 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

LOL!


3 posted on 07/09/2006 7:14:43 AM PDT by SaveTheChief ("This one goes to eleven.")
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To: SuzyQ2

Pirated my interest.


4 posted on 07/09/2006 7:17:45 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: SuzyQ2

My least favorite pirate would be the IRS.


5 posted on 07/09/2006 7:17:49 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: SuzyQ2

"Nothing says "swashbuckling" like "Errol Flynn" -- the dashing British actor.."

Flynn was Australian.


6 posted on 07/09/2006 7:23:40 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: BulletBobCo
LOL! Avast, matey, prepare to be audited!

My most favorite pirate would be....


7 posted on 07/09/2006 7:23:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: SuzyQ2
Well, I saw the movie last night.

Here's the bad news: it wasn't as good as the first. (Not that the first was all that great.) Now the good news: there will be a sequel.

Anyway, unless you have a 9 year old son, wait for the DVD.

8 posted on 07/09/2006 7:26:35 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: SuzyQ2

9 posted on 07/09/2006 7:31:18 AM PDT by JRios1968 (There's 3 kinds of people in this world...those who know math and those who don't.)
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To: SuzyQ2
Uluj Ali: Ulaj Ali (also, Uluj or 'Uluj, in Turkish:

Uluç Ali Pasha) - 16th century Muslim Ottoman admiral and privateer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uluj_Ali

Aruj,: Turkish Oruç (c. 1473-1518), also known as Baba Aruj, Barbarossa (italian Red Beard) was an Ottoman-Turkish privateer and a governor of Algiers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aruj

Barbarossa Khair ad Din Pasha (circa 1475-1546) was an Ottoman-Turkish admiral and privateer who served in the Ottoman Empire and in the Barbary Coast. He was born on the island of Lesbos, in today's Greece. He died in Beşiktaş in Istanbul, in modern-day Turkey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarossa_Khair_ad_Din_Pasha

Jasim bin Jabir جاسم بن جابر, was a pirate from the 19th century in the Persian Gulf

Jasim had his base at Udaid, and attacked British ships in the gulf, with caravans carrying the booty inland. Khalifa, the ruler of Abu Dhabi, having gotten permission from the resident British authorities, attacked Udaid in May 1836 killing 50 men, and destroying the houses and fortification.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasim_bin_Jabir

Rahmah bin Jabir Aljalahma رحمة بن جابر بن عتبة الجلهمي أو الجلاهمة was an Arab ruler and pirate in the Persian Gulf (1760? 1826). His first name means 'mercy' in Arabic. He was born in Qurain (modern day Kuwait) in the north of the Persian Gulf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahmah_bin_Jabir_al-Jalahimah

Murat Rais (or Murat Reis) was a Muslim Albanian pirate and Ottoman admiral in the 16th century. He was known for his boldness, even by corsair standards. Rais attacked Spain and Italy both on land and sea, he even captured the flag ship of the Pope. By the 1580's he was notorious for attacking Christian ships and towns. Rais was killed while laying siege to the city of Vlore in 1638. He was aged 103 when he died, which was very unusual for those times.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murat_Rais

Turgut Reis (1514-1565) Ottoman, Turkish corsair and admiral, as well as Bey of Tunis. Known in different languages with such names as Dragut or Darghouth, the original name in Turkey is Turgut Reis or Torgut Reis (reis = admiral)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turgut_Reis

John Ward [Warde], also known as Jack Ward and under his Muslim name Yusuf Reis, was a notorious English pirate around the turn of the 17th century who later became a Barbary Corsair operating out of Tunis during the early 1600s.

While many in Tunisia were angered by Ward's desertion of the Muslim sailors aboard the Reniera e Soderina, Uthman Dey offered Ward a safe haven. Ward however offered King James I $40,000 for a royal pardon which was refused and he reluctantly returned to Tunis. Uthman Dey kept his word and Ward was granted protection by Tunis.

During the next year ballads and pamphleteers condemned John Ward for turning corsair (which may have contributed to his later conversion to Islam). He changed his name to Yusuf Reis and married an Italian woman while he continued to send money to his English wife.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ward Oh yea Romance the pirateers what a wonderful thing

After the United States won its independence in the treaty of 1783, it had to protect its own commerce against dangers such as the Barbary pirates. As early as 1784 Congress followed the tradition of the European shipping powers and appropriated $80,000 as tribute to the Barbary states, directing its ministers in Europe, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, to begin negotiations with them. Trouble began the next year, in July 1785, when Algerians captured two American ships and the dey of Algiers held their crews of twenty-one people for a ransom of nearly $60,000.

Thomas Jefferson, United States minister to France, opposed the payment of tribute, as he later testified in words that have a particular resonance today. In his autobiography Jefferson wrote that in 1785 and 1786 he unsuccessfully "endeavored to form an association of the powers subject to habitual depredation from them. I accordingly prepared, and proposed to their ministers at Paris, for consultation with their governments, articles of a special confederation." Jefferson argued that "The object of the convention shall be to compel the piratical States to perpetual peace." Jefferson prepared a detailed plan for the interested states. "Portugal, Naples, the two Sicilies, Venice, Malta, Denmark and Sweden were favorably disposed to such an association," Jefferson remembered, but there were "apprehensions" that England and France would follow their own paths, "and so it fell through."

http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/jefferson_papers/mtjprece.html

10 posted on 07/09/2006 7:32:19 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ( have long feared that my sins would return to visit me and the cost would be more than I could bear)
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To: JRios1968

She can certainly shiver me timbers.


11 posted on 07/09/2006 7:35:23 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NYT Headline: 'Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS: Fake But Accurate, Experts Say.')
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Arrrgh, Matey...she be hotter than the gun deck in old Redbeard's ship.


12 posted on 07/09/2006 7:43:07 AM PDT by JRios1968 (There's 3 kinds of people in this world...those who know math and those who don't.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Good find!

And we would do well to note the following:

In 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams were ambassadors to Paris and London, respectively. Because America had suffered disruption and attacks on its ships by Muslim pirates, they met with and asked the representative of what is now modern day Libya, Sidi Haji Rahmand Adja, why the Muslims were doing this (they had been doing it against Christian shipping for centuries).

The following is a quote from the report issued to the Continental Congress by Jefferson and Adams:

(Adja said) "“…that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.”"

I was an Errol Flynn fan. ;)

13 posted on 07/09/2006 7:51:57 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: SuzyQ2
Image hosted by Photobucket.com Aaarrrrr... Capt. RedJackFlint says, beware

Capt. Pissgums and his Perverted Pirates vs the Dyke's!!!

Pathos on the High Seas, below decks... on his ship the Quivering Thigh

14 posted on 07/09/2006 8:16:32 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: JRios1968

ARRRRRR! Me Matey! Be havin' ye erehove t'th' site? 'Tis alot o' fun!

http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html


Sven The Slovenly


15 posted on 07/09/2006 8:21:33 AM PDT by Hazcat
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To: SuzyQ2
If pirates are so bad then why are they Flying Spagetti Monster's chosen children?
16 posted on 07/09/2006 8:26:17 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: SuzyQ2; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; SandyInSeattle; Darksheare; OSHA; ...



17 posted on 07/09/2006 8:38:33 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Pray for peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Hazcat

That be a good one, Me Hearty! I like 't, ye scurvy dog!

Arrrr!

Dirty John Rackham


18 posted on 07/09/2006 8:43:45 AM PDT by JRios1968 (There's 3 kinds of people in this world...those who know math and those who don't.)
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To: BulletBobCo

Mine is the UN.


19 posted on 07/09/2006 8:47:35 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: onedoug

aRRRRR, Dems dat die be the lucky ones.


20 posted on 07/09/2006 8:53:17 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Weapons are not toys to play with, they are tools to be used.)
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To: Chode
Pathos on the High Seas, below decks... on his ship the Quivering Thigh

(The Captain's men, bathing in the sun and body odor...Man that takes me back. Good ole Zap Comix. I also miss the Checkered Demon, etc.

Maybe I will have some Grog or six pack of Tree Frog and toast the Captain.

21 posted on 07/09/2006 9:03:38 AM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: Hazcat

I saw the guy who did the Talk Like a Pirate song at a furry comics convention in Pittsburgh (Tom Smith).

http://www.talklikeapirate.com/songs1.html


22 posted on 07/09/2006 9:08:16 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: Lawgvr1955
Image hosted by Photobucket.comknowing who the Capt. is, is a sure sign of an misspent yout... 8^)

AAARRRrrrrr... Bite me crank matey!!!

23 posted on 07/09/2006 9:13:17 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: raccoonradio

Are you from the Burgh? I was born and raised in Glenshaw (Shaler Township).


24 posted on 07/09/2006 9:20:58 AM PDT by Hazcat
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To: All
Anyone else remember the game "Pirates" on the old Commodore 64 and later the 286?
25 posted on 07/09/2006 9:22:53 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: tsomer

I don't know...say it yesterday with my daughters and loved it. Loved the first even more, but this was nice.


26 posted on 07/09/2006 9:24:34 AM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: mewzilla

Chipper the Ripper
27 posted on 07/09/2006 9:32:57 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: SuzyQ2

Sir Francis Drake and Sir Francis Raleigh were English privateers, also known as Sea Hawks, that preyed upon Spanish merchant ships that carried gold, silver, and precious stones from the Americas.

They were called patriots to the English. They were pirates to the Spanish.


28 posted on 07/09/2006 9:48:09 AM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: mewzilla; SuzyQ2; SoCal Pubbie; dighton; aculeus; general_re; L,TOWM; Constitution Day; ...
Aaarrgghh, back at ya ...


29 posted on 07/09/2006 10:00:28 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
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To: SuzyQ2

AAARRRRR!!!!

30 posted on 07/09/2006 10:00:46 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face.)
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To: SuzyQ2
And of course....

raaawr!!

31 posted on 07/09/2006 10:04:25 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face.)
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To: Hazcat

nope, from NE of Boston MA. Was my first trip to Pittsburgh.


32 posted on 07/09/2006 10:12:48 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: All

Notice to first 31 posters on this thread:

Just couldn't wait until September 19th, could you?


33 posted on 07/09/2006 10:27:03 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity; SuzyQ2; Slings and Arrows; rzeznikj at stout

LOng_J0n_S1lv3r: ARRRRR?

8l@ck83@rd: ARRRRR :)

LOng_J0n_S1lv3r: ARRRRROTFLMAO!!!

8l@ck83@rd: ARRRRR :-P


34 posted on 07/09/2006 10:27:25 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|The IRA are actually terrorists, any questions?)
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Teach! Teach mentioned here!

A jolly good fellow!

35 posted on 07/09/2006 10:29:49 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

T'would have been mighty cool to have been a pirate. Only I wouldnt have shared booty with the rest of the crew (unlike some of the guys in the list)


36 posted on 07/09/2006 10:34:56 AM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: yankeedame

ROTF!!!! Awwwww!


37 posted on 07/09/2006 10:49:03 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: SuzyQ2
I miss Mad Jack the Pirate. You'd think the idiots at FOX would rerelease the 13 episodes, what with the popularity of 'Carribean' , but nooooo-

I also like another cartoon pirate , Walker D Plank. He has a shoulder parrot, and the parrot has an eyepatch and a wooden leg. I find that cutely amusing.

38 posted on 07/09/2006 11:09:47 AM PDT by kaylar
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To: Slings and Arrows

Can't you see I love you
Please don't break my heart in two
That's not hard to do
'Cause I don't have a wooden heart

And if you said good-bye
Then I know that I would cry
Maybe I would die
'Cause I don't have a wooden heart

There's no strings about this love of mine
It was always you from the start
Treat me nice, treat me good
Treat me like you know you should
'Cause I'm not made of wood
And I don't have a wooden heart


39 posted on 07/09/2006 11:13:26 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: COEXERJ145

Sid Meier's Pirates!. An acclaimed new version was released a couple of years ago.


40 posted on 07/09/2006 11:15:24 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: Military family member
Loved the first even more, but this was nice.

Well, I wasn't having what you'd consider the optimal movie experience. We went to a late afternoon matinee hoping to avoid the crowd and went a little early to grab good seats. Sat through 40 minutes of idiocy (it's looking grim for summer movies ) and watched all my elbow room fill in. Wound up wedged between my son and a hyperactive 6 year old. I'd forgotten to bring a few Advil, you know, just in case. I did take an extra shirt,long-sleeved, anticipating (yearning for) an artic blast of AC.

I didn't need the shirt, the AC was broken. But I did need those Advils.

41 posted on 07/09/2006 11:15:49 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

LOL. That's great.


42 posted on 07/09/2006 11:15:57 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Rastus

Yep, I've got it too. :-)


43 posted on 07/09/2006 11:16:27 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: yankeedame

Captain Kitt

44 posted on 07/09/2006 11:17:22 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

Errol Flynn looked absolutely gorgeous, and was at the top of his form, in "Captain Blood". No film star since that era has equaled him in looks or captivating personality. When I was recently rewatching the DVD of Captain Blood, I got chills from Flynn's performance, it was perfect.


45 posted on 07/09/2006 11:18:07 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Leaning on the everlasting arms.)
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To: Ciexyz
Yup. They don't make 'em like that anymore :(

So thank goodness for DVDs :)

46 posted on 07/09/2006 11:21:03 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Slings and Arrows

"A Pirates life is a wonderful life, you'll find it all good sport.."


47 posted on 07/09/2006 11:24:43 AM PDT by Darksheare
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To: Darksheare

Oh, better far to live and die
Under the brave black flag I fly,
Than play a sanctimonious part,
With a pirate head and a pirate heart.
Away to the cheating world go you,
Where pirates all are well-to-do;
But I'll be true to the song I sing,
And live and die a Pirate King.


48 posted on 07/09/2006 11:33:32 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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49 posted on 07/09/2006 11:34:44 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

That is really funny.

I don't get out much.


50 posted on 07/09/2006 11:38:33 AM PDT by Radix (Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
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