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North Korean Envoy: Pressure Could Trigger War
NewsMax ^ | 7/9/06 | AP

Posted on 07/09/2006 12:27:53 PM PDT by wagglebee

CANBERRA, Australia -- North Korea's ambassador to Australia warned Sunday that international attempts to halt his nation's missile tests could lead to war.

In a letter to The Sunday Herald Sun newspaper in the southern city of Melbourne, Ambassador Chon Jae Hong defended last week's missile launches as "routine military exercises" aimed at increasing the nation's "capacity for self-defense."

He said North Korean's missile program and tests were key to keeping the balance of force in northeast Asia.

"It is a lesson taught by history and a stark reality of international relations, proven by the Iraqi crisis, that the upsetting of the balance of force is bound to create instability and spark even a war," Chon said.

North Korea "will have no option but to take stronger physical actions of other forms, should any country dare take issue with the exercises and put pressure upon it," he added.

The tests have rattled the region and beyond. One of the missiles was believed capable of reaching U.S. shores, while the others could easily reach Japan.

North Korea stunned Tokyo in 1998 by firing a missile over the archipelago.

Prime Minister John Howard has condemned the seven missile tests as provocative and endorsed calls for the U.N. Security Council to take action.

Japan has proposed a U.N. Security Council resolution calling for sanctions against Pyongyang's missile and weapons of mass destruction programs. The United States, Britain and France support it but the other two veto-empowered members of the council, China and Russia, are opposed.

Diplomatic efforts to broker a breakthrough gathered speed Sunday, when Japanese Foreign Minister Taro Aso saying Russia may abstain from voting on the resolution, isolating China as the sole country voicing opposition.

"China will be backed into a corner," Aso said on the TV Asahi morning talk show Sunday Project. "It's only common sense not to do that."

Nine of 15 votes on the Security Council are needed to pass the resolution.

Supporters decided at a meeting Friday afternoon not to call for a vote over the weekend after some council members asked for more time to consider the resolution.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2scared2fight; missile; northkorea; northkoreannukes; proliferation; ready2surrrender2us
He said North Korean's missile program and tests were key to keeping the balance of force in northeast Asia.

The Russians and the Chicoms both have nukes in this region and as unpleasant as that is, at least they aren't in the control of an insane midget with a chip on his shoulder.

1 posted on 07/09/2006 12:27:54 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

Is their rhetoric usually this ratcheted, or is this kind of talking the norm there? That's what I want to know.


2 posted on 07/09/2006 12:30:26 PM PDT by brain bleeds red
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To: brain bleeds red

As far as I can tell, they always talk like this. What amazes me is that North Korean ambassadors to places like Australia don't defect -- he has to know (even if he won't admit it publicly) that his country will be destroyed if they continue on the course they're on.


3 posted on 07/09/2006 12:32:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: brain bleeds red

They always talk like this.

Their negotiation technique is similar to China's. Prior to trade negotiations, China usually imprisons a bunch of dissidents with ties to America, and buys a bunch of European stuff.

During negotiations, a big deal is made of releasing some prominent dissidents, and then several visible contracts are thrown to an American company.

They're running exactly the same game - and we're probably once again falling for it.


4 posted on 07/09/2006 12:33:07 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Yo no soy Marinaro. Soy Condista.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Janpan needs to get develop offense capabilities-and quickly.
Luckily, W and Korizumi (sp?) are good friends (Elvis, anyone) and they have signed on to SDI.
In addition, I've read that the guy who is likely to follow Korizumi is even more hard line.
5 posted on 07/09/2006 12:46:11 PM PDT by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: wagglebee
The Russians and the Chicoms both have nukes in this region and as unpleasant as that is, at least they aren't in the control of an insane midget with a chip on his shoulder.
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As far as I can tell, they always talk like this. What amazes me is that North Korean ambassadors to places like Australia don't defect -- he has to know (even if he won't admit it publicly) that his country will be destroyed if they continue on the course they're on.

That's the thing about the Soviets - they were cool and calculating, there was never going to be nuclear holocaust because the Bolsheviks didn't want to lose their iron-grip on the USSR.

Whereas, there is no logic whatsoever with Kim Jong Il - he's capable of anything!

6 posted on 07/09/2006 12:54:19 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|The IRA are actually terrorists, any questions?)
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To: wagglebee

They probably have his whole family in jail until he returns.

This may be one of those occasions that we just bomb the crap out of the country and step back to let the survivors sort it out. If they behave in a civil manner we help. If not, we let them fight it out some more.


7 posted on 07/09/2006 12:59:12 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

At the height of the Cold War, we at least had the knowledge that the Soviet dictators were reasonably rational. They didn't want a direct war with the US anymore than we wanted one with them -- Kruschev, Breshnev and the others wanted the power that came with ruling their Evil Empire, they would "push" us when they could, but never to far. And I think the Chicoms have basically the same mindset as the Soviets.

Kim Jong Il, however, is truly insane, I think he actually believes he can win against us. I have a feeling that the Chicoms are horrified that this madman, who they believed was just their puppet, cannot be controlled.


8 posted on 07/09/2006 1:02:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
I have a feeling that the Chicoms are horrified that this madman, who they believed was just their puppet, cannot be controlled.

Ah.. that would explain why China isn't exactly backing NK in this.

9 posted on 07/09/2006 1:06:56 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|The IRA are actually terrorists, any questions?)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

The Chicoms view the region as THEIRS, they are not about to share it with anyone.


10 posted on 07/09/2006 1:08:18 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Dutch Boy
They probably have his whole family in jail until he returns.

It's the ultimate form of totalitarianism - many a man would sacrifice his life in the name of freedom - but no one would sacrifice their families in the process - state-backed ransom basically!

11 posted on 07/09/2006 1:09:46 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|The IRA are actually terrorists, any questions?)
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To: wagglebee

I agree.


12 posted on 07/09/2006 1:10:32 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|The IRA are actually terrorists, any questions?)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

At this point, I have a feeling that if the Chicoms were to invade North Korea, we wouldn't make too big a fuss over it.


13 posted on 07/09/2006 1:12:41 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

War with who?


14 posted on 07/09/2006 1:12:53 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

I assume he means the United States, but with these lunatics you never know.


15 posted on 07/09/2006 1:13:44 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

He's so ronery.


16 posted on 07/09/2006 1:14:16 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: brain bleeds red

"Is their rhetoric usually this ratcheted, or is this kind of talking the norm there? That's what I want to know."

I'm thinking they're sending a message from the Communist Chinese.


17 posted on 07/09/2006 1:15:59 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: wagglebee

Yeah.. sit back and enjoy the fireworks! ;)


18 posted on 07/09/2006 1:16:18 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|The IRA are actually terrorists, any questions?)
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To: wagglebee

Mom and pop are probably held somewhere.


19 posted on 07/09/2006 1:17:08 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Go home and fix Mexico)
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To: dljordan

I don't think the Chicoms want any part of this. The Chicoms have become a major economic power and they know that they need the participation of the United States to continue this. They view Kim Jong Il as a huge obstacle to their own best interests.


20 posted on 07/09/2006 1:19:52 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

"attempts to halt his nation's missile tests could lead to war."

LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL, MAMA!!!!


21 posted on 07/09/2006 1:20:43 PM PDT by no dems (www.4condi.com)
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To: wagglebee
We have and have had a truce with North Korea since 7/27/53. We have no treaty, no mutual understanding, no peace.

Technically we are still at war with the DPRK.

The DPRK is a rock bottom, failed regime that wants their enemy to bail them out. Warfare by extortion.
22 posted on 07/09/2006 1:25:43 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: BIGLOOK

Well, they've got a damn stupid way of going about it. If they had any sense they would realize that the United States will (stupidly) give just about any country in the world any amount of money they ask for.


23 posted on 07/09/2006 1:30:01 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Does everyone realize that there was never a peace treaty signed after the Korean War? There was only a cease fire agreement.

How insane does NK have to be to put a nuke on an ICBM and launch it into CA...then state to the world...that the US broke the cease fire, therefore they struck first???

Scenario's...scenario's...scenario's...


24 posted on 07/09/2006 1:54:08 PM PDT by Dr Stormfist
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To: wagglebee
I can think of several scenarios in the upcoming months and all of them involve some sort of military action unfortunately. The timing will be closer to the November elections.

Look at the last few months and we have Chavez being a pain in the ass trying to start trouble, Ahmonajihad rattling his saber, the dog eater throwing his old hardware into the drink and Hamas trying to be exterminated by Israel. The only ones missing are India and Pakistan.

I don't think we will put troops on the ground in any of these places but I do see an escalation coming. :-(

25 posted on 07/09/2006 1:54:08 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: wagglebee

What a line of bullshit.


26 posted on 07/09/2006 1:55:22 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Unicorn

Are you referring to what I wrote or what Kim Jong Il's mouthpiece said?


27 posted on 07/09/2006 1:57:02 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
North Korean Envoy: Pressure Could Trigger War

Okay.

28 posted on 07/09/2006 1:59:34 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: wagglebee
If they had any sense they would realize that the United States will (stupidly) give just about any country in the world any amount of money they ask for.

And we have under the Carter and Clinton regimes. Presently the DPRK is demanding reparations from the Bush administration and throwing a temper tantrum to obtain them.

Let them wither on the vine. Won't take much.
29 posted on 07/09/2006 2:00:26 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: wagglebee

the mouse roars again!!!


30 posted on 07/09/2006 2:13:14 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: wagglebee

we should pound them thru the pavement
The World needs to realise 'again' that you
do not mess with the USA !


31 posted on 07/09/2006 2:29:42 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse (strive on with heedfulness)
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To: wagglebee

What amazes me is that North Korean ambassadors to places like Australia don't defect

He didn't want to lose his 401K.


32 posted on 07/09/2006 2:30:38 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: wagglebee
Intersting comment by the Japanese Foreign Minister...puts the onus on the Chinese to put up or shut up if Russia tries to play both sides.

Mini Me still thinks it's 1950 and that the Chinese will come to his rescue if he starts anything. The difference between 1950 and today is that China didn't do billions of dollars' worth of trade with the U.S. back then. The almighty dollar may be mightier than the sword.

33 posted on 07/09/2006 2:52:26 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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Whereas, there is no logic whatsoever with Kim Jong Il - he's capable of anything!

Right. (Not.) Same as that kook in Iran. Both of them have learned we are a divided country that won't stand by our president when he wants to defend us. Both know they can push buttons with impunity. Both know that the more radical or crazy they appear, the more American leftists will wet themselves and try to buy them off. And both know that once we pay their ransom, they can keep building nukes and no one will do a damn thing about it.

Kim Jong Il is not crazy, or capable of "anything". He's wily and he's playing us like the disunified, self-absorbed panderers we are, through our elected leaders. And as long as we continue to send the same weak-kneed bastards to Washington, we will get the same from our enemies. They respect American might, but they have come to trust in American might-not.

34 posted on 07/09/2006 3:09:38 PM PDT by DC Bound
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Mini Me still thinks it's 1950 and that the Chinese will come to his rescue if he starts anything. The difference between 1950 and today is that China didn't do billions of dollars' worth of trade with the U.S. back then. The almighty dollar may be mightier than the sword.

You're right, the Chicoms understand that their future prosperity (and by extension, power) is totally tied to US trade.

35 posted on 07/09/2006 3:25:35 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

North Korea's Dear Leader, who looks like Porky Pig, is dumb like a fox. The way to get rich is to declare war on the U.S., lose and then sit back and let yourself be rebuilt.

I have often wanted to buy a small island somewhere, start a war with the U.S. and then lose. The U.S. would flood me with money, food and riches beyond my wildest dream.

The only thing that keeps me from doing it is the fear that I might win.


36 posted on 07/09/2006 3:40:59 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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37 posted on 07/09/2006 3:55:19 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

A war they would lose.


38 posted on 07/09/2006 4:44:20 PM PDT by funkywbr
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To: wagglebee

No not what you said what that nut said.


39 posted on 07/09/2006 4:46:01 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: wagglebee
What amazes me is that North Korean ambassadors to places like Australia don't defect...
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They probably like their family and don't want bad things to happen to them.
40 posted on 07/09/2006 6:14:47 PM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: DC Bound

I hope you're right - it would make him a more predictable threat.


41 posted on 07/10/2006 12:13:18 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|The IRA are actually terrorists, any questions?)
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