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Ahmadinejad: Conditions for Removal of Israel Are at Hand
israel national news ^ | 7/9/06 | by Ezra HaLevi

Posted on 07/09/2006 2:23:39 PM PDT by Flavius

ranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, clearing up any ambiguity in previous calls to “wipe Israel off the map,” now used an Arabic word for the removal of body hair to describe his plans for Israel.

“All the conditions for the removal of the Zionist regime are at hand,” Ahmadinejad told an Arab Conference of Iraqi Neighbors meeting Saturday. For the first time, he employed the Arabic word ezaleh, which is used to describe the irreversible removal of body hairs or a woman’s virginity.

“Nations in the region will be more furious every day. It won’t take long before the wrath of the people turns into a terrible explosion that will wipe the Zionist entity off the map,” Ahmadinejad told the foreign ministers of Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Turkey, Bahrain and Egypt. The heads of the Arab League and the Islamic Conference were also present, in addition to a special United Nations representative.

None of the foreign ministers present, including Jordan, Egypt or Turkey – commonly regarded as Israel’s friends in the Arab/Muslim world - objected to the call for annihilation. Instead, the following statement was issued: “The Arab foreign ministers participating in today's Tehran meeting expressed their strong condemnation of this continuing and increasing aggression against the Palestinian people."

The Iranian president went on to blame all of the region’s troubles on the Jewish state. “"The basic problem in the Islamic world is the existence of the Zionist regime, and the Islamic world and the region must mobilize to remove this problem. It is a usurper that our enemies made and imposed on the Muslim world, a regime that prevented the progress of the region’s nations, a regime that all Muslims must join hands in isolating worldwide.”

He ended with a call on all nations to cease their support of Israel. “[All nations] should realize that their support for the illegitimate, usurper, Zionist regime is a mistake. The waves of fury of Muslim nations will not be confined within the boundaries of the region, and the people who close their ears to the cries of the Palestinians and blindly support this regime will be responsible for the consequences.” "I tell them to dissociate themselves or face the terrible consequences.”

Since Ahmadinejad’s call to “wipe Israel off the map” last October, some academics have claimed the Iranian leader was mistranslated or misunderstood.

"Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to wipe Israel off the map, because no such idiom exists in Persian," left-wing University of Michigan professor Juan Cole told the New York Times. "He did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse…Since Iran has not attacked another country aggressively for over a century, I smell the whiff of war propaganda."

Jonathan Steele of the British Guardian newspaper also told the Time: "The Iranian president was quoting an ancient statement by Iran's first Islamist leader, the late Ayatollah Khomeini, that 'this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time,' just as the shah's regime in Iran had vanished. He was not making a military threat. He was calling for an end to the occupation of Jerusalem at some point in the future. The 'page of time' phrase suggests he did not expect it to happen soon."

Neither of the two have responded to Ahmadinejad’s latest clarification and call to action, which were translated and distributed by the Iranian state-run IRNA news agency.

The Iranian leader's threats are particularly significant as the Islamic Republic continues to pursue nuclear technology and world bodies continue to pursue diplomatic means of inducing Iran to give up its nuclear aspirations.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahdamnnutjob; ahmadinejad; annihilation; hallindsey; iran; islam; israel; jewsgoodiraniansbad; muslim
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1 posted on 07/09/2006 2:23:43 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

HITs guy should be a spokesperson for the EU or the PM of Sweden.


2 posted on 07/09/2006 2:26:18 PM PDT by zarf (Italian Kid: My father can beat up your father! Jewish Kid: Big deal, so can my mother!)
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To: Flavius
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad...used an Arabic word for the removal of body hair to describe his plans for Israel.

I'm surprised there is such a word in Arabic.
3 posted on 07/09/2006 2:26:20 PM PDT by seowulf
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To: Flavius
Its all the Jews' fault! And for claims the Iranian Haman was mistranslated, misinterpreted or misunderstood, the Arabic expression couldn't make it any clearer. He means what he says and those who refuse to remember history are doomed to repeat it. I believe he truly means to destroy the Jewish State. Let's hope Israel rises to the occasion.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

4 posted on 07/09/2006 2:27:10 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: zarf

maybe if he retires, im sure there is an editor spot in NYT


5 posted on 07/09/2006 2:27:21 PM PDT by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: seowulf
Apparently the Persian was lacking in a suitable expression. But its evident he regards Jews in the same way people view unwanted body hair, as something to be gotten rid of. Its an unmistakable image.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

6 posted on 07/09/2006 2:28:52 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Flavius

My answer would be do unto them before they do unto us. And by them I mean the whole Moo world. Waste Mecca Medina Qom and they'll never again believe in Islam since phony baloney god named allah could not protect allah's so called holy cities. Qom is the Shiite holy city in Iran


7 posted on 07/09/2006 2:30:38 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok.)
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To: Flavius
I'd better check the title. I forgot if this was Iran or an internal Democrat or UN memo.
8 posted on 07/09/2006 2:30:56 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Flavius

“All the conditions for the removal of the Zionist regime are at hand,”

Let's finish the removal of the entire Axis of Evil.
Iran and NK have got to go . Waiting only makes things worse.
Let's roll....


9 posted on 07/09/2006 2:32:15 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse (strive on with heedfulness)
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To: Flavius

So what he is saying is he doesn't want to wipe Israel off the map but just kill all of the jews living there? Will someone please just kill this idiot quickly please!


10 posted on 07/09/2006 2:33:50 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: dennisw

"do unto them before they do unto us."

Amen bro! include NK in the picture and let's
clean up this world before it's too late.


11 posted on 07/09/2006 2:33:56 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse (strive on with heedfulness)
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To: seowulf
Like depilatory ..
12 posted on 07/09/2006 2:34:35 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: Flavius
I wonder if this wasn't the point: Kim gets paid by the mullahs to grandstand at the same time that the US and the EU are trying to deal with the Iranians.

The whole exercise seems to be backfiring though, as now even the Chinese are ticked and the Eurons are looking at missile defense and will probbaly take a harder line in dealing with the Iranians.

13 posted on 07/09/2006 2:35:04 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: Flavius
Never since Hitler have we encountered a violent anti-Semite who has been keen on effecting the wholesale destruction of the Jewish people and we know if his country gets its hand on the Bomb, there is no question in my mind it will be used. Israel has never been in greater danger. The Palestinians are a nuisance at best but the Iranians have the capability to make Ahmedinejad's words a reality. That is why they have to be stopped cold.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

14 posted on 07/09/2006 2:36:02 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Flavius

Weapons of Mass Depilation


15 posted on 07/09/2006 2:36:05 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 66-68)
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To: Flavius

"The basic problem in the Islamic world is the existence of the Zionist regime, and the Islamic world and the region must mobilize to remove this problem."

And there we have it....no "occupation". No "Palestinian Problem". No two-state solution. Are you listening, Mr. Bush? Ms. Rice? all European leaders? Putin? Huh???? THIS IS THE PROBLEM.......THE EXISTENCE OF ISRAEL!! Why can't our leaders recognize that there will NEVER be peace until Arabs are taught that the existence of Israel is legitimate, either softy by education or, more likely, by getting their butts kicked in another war - after all, the Arab only knows truth when it is forced on him by strength. That is Arab culture -- the strongest is the rightest. It's time the Israelis and the rest of the world woke up to that fact and taught them the lesson in the only terms they understand.


16 posted on 07/09/2006 2:36:59 PM PDT by Taiku
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To: dennisw
My answer would be do unto them before they do unto us. And by them I mean the whole Moo world. Waste Mecca Medina Qom and they'll never again believe in Islam since phony baloney god named allah could not protect allah's so called holy cities.

The Romans understood that they were fighting a religious ideology in Israel and employed this strategy with extreme effectiveness when they razed the temple at Jerusalem. Unfortunately, we believe that "Islam is a religion of peace" and that we are fighting "terrorists."
17 posted on 07/09/2006 2:37:02 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Flavius
Israeli policy in regards to the using the bomb:
To deter a large conventional attack,
To deter all levels of unconventional (chemical, biological, nuclear) attacks,
To preempt enemy nuclear attacks, To support conventional preemption against enemy nuclear assets
To support conventional preemption against enemy nonnuclear (conventional, chemical, biological) assets, For nuclear war fighting,

I agree with their policy and its time for Israel to those policies into practice against Iran.
18 posted on 07/09/2006 2:38:46 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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To: BunnySlippers
The article said it means the "irreversible removal of body hairs." That can only mean electrolysis.
19 posted on 07/09/2006 2:42:27 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: LeoWindhorse

Could we include Chavez as a high profile threat also, please?


20 posted on 07/09/2006 2:42:46 PM PDT by Dr Stormfist
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To: Dr Stormfist

I agree


21 posted on 07/09/2006 2:43:15 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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To: Alouette

I didn't think it was possible for anything on this thread to make me laugh, but you did! :)
susie


22 posted on 07/09/2006 2:43:26 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: garbageseeker
The problem is it takes just one bomb to deal a death blow to Israel. Wiping out the entire Islamic World and reducing it to a pile of ash is a tall order. You're talking of destroying over a billion people. Against that 6 million Jews.... well, Jewish history would surely come to an end if the Jewish State disappeared in a violent catalysm.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

23 posted on 07/09/2006 2:43:36 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
The Samson Option
24 posted on 07/09/2006 2:44:24 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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To: Alouette
Weapons of Mass Depilation

The hair-rorist Zionists and their barber-ous lackeys will be trimmed from the Ummah's moustache! Hmm, needs work...

25 posted on 07/09/2006 2:45:46 PM PDT by InMemoriam
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To: LeoWindhorse

I am hoping that war with Iran is avoidable, but I see no reason for optimism. We may be at war with Iran before the end of the summer.


26 posted on 07/09/2006 2:46:25 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
I think that's exactly the sense of the expression. Ahmedinejad may be crazy but he chooses what he says with great care. He wants every one to understand this is his life's work, the culmination of all his dreams. And a man like him in power, given to say what he says, will do it. No leader tosses about words carelessly. The Iranian Haman has nothing but evil in his heart towards Jews and this must be a message universally received and understood by the world.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

27 posted on 07/09/2006 2:47:37 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Flavius
All the conditions for the removal of the Zionist regime are at hand,;

Ahmadinejad told an Arab Conference of Iraqi Neighbors meeting Saturday.

So...Israel's considerable nuclear arsenal just vanished?

28 posted on 07/09/2006 2:48:49 PM PDT by MrEdd (Bad spellers of the world - UNTIE!,)
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To: goldstategop

Given his hairyness, it's a bit strange. He needs to be shorn, and the wool collected could be used for a scarf, pair of mittens, a ski cap, and a sweater.


29 posted on 07/09/2006 2:49:23 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Flavius
"Since Ahmadinejad’s call to “wipe Israel off the map” last October, some academics have claimed the Iranian leader was mistranslated or misunderstood."

Probably the same apologists who say make the same claims about the fictional "scriptures" called the Qur'an.

30 posted on 07/09/2006 2:50:21 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Flavius
“[All nations] should realize that their support for the illegitimate, usurper, Zionist regime is a mistake. The waves of fury of Muslim nations will not be confined within the boundaries of the region, and the people who close their ears to the cries of the Palestinians and blindly support this regime will be responsible for the consequences.” "I tell them to dissociate themselves or face the terrible consequences.”

Talk is cheap. What consequences? Is this the warning Islam proscribes before the attack?

31 posted on 07/09/2006 2:50:46 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Flavius
“All the conditions for the removal of the Zionist regime are at hand,

He really, really hates these cans (Jews)!!!

Mooselimbs living on borrowed time.

This satanic cult will either reform or be eliminated as a major religion within 10 years.

32 posted on 07/09/2006 2:51:01 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: popdonnelly
My view is diplomacy is ultimately a waste of time. At point, Israel is going to have to act. Its like 1962 but far more dangerous since if it was necessary, Israel would take out Iran first with nuclear weapons before they could get the bomb. I think that's very likely since the difference between then and now is the Iranian leadership is not going to be impressed by the threat of mutual assured destruction to flinch. Their country may need to be completely destroyed to serve an object lesson to any one else who wants to mess with the Jewish State.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

33 posted on 07/09/2006 2:53:01 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Ahmedinejad should know his country will cease to exist before Israel does. He will never be allowed to act on his threats to bring about a Second Holocaust.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

34 posted on 07/09/2006 2:55:12 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
And the next line:

"He did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse…

I reject the leftist's premise. The Jews aren't occupying Jerusalem anymore than the Iranians are occupying Tehran or the Americans are occupying New York City. Long before there was a Mohammad, Jews ruled in Jerusalem.

In fact, in an ironic twist of history, Cyrus the Great, a Persian (Iranian) king of renown, gave Jerusalem BACK to the Jews, and paid out of his own Persian treasury to rebuild the Temple there, the most sacred site in all Judaism. Har Har, Ahmadinejad!!!!

35 posted on 07/09/2006 2:56:33 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: goldstategop

I agree, Iran is not going to give up its nuclear programs through diplomacy.


36 posted on 07/09/2006 2:57:50 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: popdonnelly

I think that Iran declared war on us in 1979 and renews that nearly every day. We have looked the other way while they have attacked us many times, especially using Hezzbollah. They are also fighting us in Iraq. If our government decides to fight back, you will hear nonsense like Cindy Sheehan spouts that Iran never did anyuthing to us. We are at was because the other guy attacks us, like it or not.


37 posted on 07/09/2006 3:00:17 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: MrEdd
Israel's enemies are all delusional if they think the Jewish State is incapable of striking first. If Israel perceives she is under mortal danger and there is no other option, yes, Israel will be the first nation to use the bomb. To quote from an ancient Jewish injunction, "When someone rises to kill you, kill him first." I hope the Iranians are listening. They think Israel is living on borrowed time but to the contrary, their nation is living on borrowed time and is facing extinction. If the Iranian people want to keep their country around, they'd better remove Ahmedinejad and his nutcases from power or be prepared to suffer the fate their leaders intend for Israel.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

38 posted on 07/09/2006 3:00:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Flavius
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, clearing up any ambiguity in previous calls to “wipe Israel off the map,” now used an Arabic word for the removal of body hair to describe his plans for Israel.

Waxing poetic?


39 posted on 07/09/2006 3:03:08 PM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: Flavius

Payers for God's protective hand over Israel.


40 posted on 07/09/2006 3:11:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: seowulf

I'm surprised that it is the same word used for the defloration of a woman.

there's something pretty sick in that culture.


41 posted on 07/09/2006 3:12:10 PM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't deserve to win, but America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats.)
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To: ClaireSolt

Finally. Yes Iran has been at war with the US for a LONG time. About time the US recognized it. I, for one, could care less if Israel, or the US or both decided the time had come to take care of both Iran and N Korea with extreme prejudice.


42 posted on 07/09/2006 3:13:11 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: goldstategop
Its all the Jews' fault!

That also translates into English as "It's all Bush's fault". Golly, these people are pathetic. I feel sorry for them the same way I do for a mad dog, except that it isn't the dog's fault.

43 posted on 07/09/2006 3:14:33 PM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't deserve to win, but America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats.)
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To: zarf
The entertainment value of this nut case's pronouncements is starting to degrade. Time for Israel to give him a lethal bitch slap.
44 posted on 07/09/2006 3:14:52 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Flavius
now used an Arabic word for the removal of body hair to describe his plans for Israel

Them is fightin' words!
45 posted on 07/09/2006 3:16:14 PM PDT by Maurice Tift
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To: LeoWindhorse
Iran (Persia) has been a thorn in the side of the West since the days of the Greek republics. The Romans had troubles with them, too.

But add Islam to the mix, and you have got some powerful bad stuff.
46 posted on 07/09/2006 3:16:43 PM PDT by chesley (Republicans don't deserve to win, but America does not deserve the Dhimmicrats.)
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To: goldstategop

The time is at hand to remove President (Unpronouncable) of Iran from the face of the Earth.


47 posted on 07/09/2006 3:19:07 PM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: goldstategop
Many times in the course of history has Israel been assiled,persecuted and overrun. Each time the nation of Israel has endured and still exists. This will not change, for He will not allow it to change. Hundreds of Egyptian tanks surrounding Israel in 1967, and 50 million Arabs can not prevail. One would think others would get the message.

It is fascinating that they don't.

48 posted on 07/09/2006 3:20:51 PM PDT by tenthirteen
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To: LeoWindhorse
Strange times --- both Ahmadinejad and Kim Jong Ill are positively begging for war, the former with his pledge(s) to "wipe Israel off the map" (all the while continuing to pursue his nuclear ambitions), the latter threatening yesterday to launch nuke-tipped ICBMs at any and every nation that signs on to sanctions against his regime. The rhetoric is at such an extreme and absurd level at this point it seems it has nowhere else to to -- either they back off or there'll be war. ....and the "Axis of Evil" will be no more.
49 posted on 07/09/2006 3:27:55 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: goldstategop

I would refer to Ahmadi-Nejad by the descriptive terms commonly used for removal of a hemhorroid.


50 posted on 07/09/2006 3:29:04 PM PDT by Sender ("Why, by God, I actually pity those poor sons-of-b*tches we're going up against. By God, I do".)
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