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Slavery Reparations Gaining Momentum
Federal News Radio ^ | 7/9 | ERIN TEXEIRA

Posted on 07/09/2006 6:03:15 PM PDT by JingoJim

Advocates who say black Americans should be compensated for slavery and its Jim Crow aftermath are quietly chalking up victories and gaining momentum.

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- Advocates who say black Americans should be compensated for slavery and its Jim Crow aftermath are quietly chalking up victories and gaining momentum.

Fueled by the work of scholars and lawyers, their campaign has morphed in recent years from a fringe-group rallying cry into sophisticated, mainstream movement. Most recently, a pair of churches apologized for their part in the slave trade, and one is studying ways to repay black church members.

The overall issue is hardly settled, even among black Americans: Some say that focusing on slavery shouldn't be a top priority or that it doesn't make sense to compensate people generations after a historical wrong.

Yet reparations efforts have led a number of cities and states to approve measures that force businesses to publicize their historical ties to slavery. Several reparations court cases are in progress, and international human rights officials are increasingly spotlighting the issue.

"This matter is growing in significance rather than declining," said Charles Ogletree, a Harvard law professor and a leading reparations activist. "It has more vigor and vitality in the 21st century than it's had in the history of the reparations movement."

1 posted on 07/09/2006 6:03:18 PM PDT by JingoJim
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To: JingoJim
Advocates who say black Americans should be compensated for slavery and its Jim Crow aftermath are quietly chalking up victories and gaining momentum.

No, they're not. This is purely wishful thinking, an outright lie. This movement is as dead as the ERA.

2 posted on 07/09/2006 6:05:56 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: JingoJim

I guess that I would support reparations if we took the money from the places where the slaves were bought, and paid them to the nations where the slaves were shipped.

That way all Americans, of all heritage (Natives, African, Asian, and European) benefit from penalizing the African nations who benefited by sending their kinsmen into bondage.


3 posted on 07/09/2006 6:08:06 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: IronJack
compensate for those that demand reparations with a 1st class one way ticket to Africa
4 posted on 07/09/2006 6:08:25 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse (strive on with heedfulness)
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To: JingoJim

Yeah, will all those slaves in America please step forward and be counted....uh, you mean they are all dead?? I don't see any slaves...do you???

It is like me saying to Britain, I want reparations from you because my great, great grandfather was oppressed and repressed by you!!!

Total freakin' liberal insanity, as usual. The hard work of the liberal left continues to MANUAFACTURE ITS NEEDED VICTIMS. Their lifeblood, along with confiscatory taxation and equal spending.


5 posted on 07/09/2006 6:09:05 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: JingoJim
Hummmm
OK, but lets be fair about it.
FIRST, the Africans need to pay reparations to the Jews for their slavery.
6 posted on 07/09/2006 6:09:46 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: JingoJim
This is pure BS and I for one will stop paying taxes if this were to happen.

The slaves were sold into slavery by black, African chieftains. Many American blacks probably wouldn't be alive today if their ancestors hadn't been sold (due to disease and war in their native countries).

Don't get me wrong. I'm against slavery of any kind, but this is despicable!

And while we're on the subject, how about reparations for people who have Cherokee ancestors who were forced off their lands and became part of the Trail of Tears?
7 posted on 07/09/2006 6:09:52 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: EagleUSA

it's the lawyers , hard at work again....
we shall know no peace until the lawyers hands are pried off of American society's throat


8 posted on 07/09/2006 6:11:02 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse (strive on with heedfulness)
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To: EagleUSA

Yup. I pay reperations for slavery every single day.

And I'd like all my Cherokee land returned asap. Thanks. :)


9 posted on 07/09/2006 6:11:53 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: JingoJim

Yeah, gaining momentum. Give it another 300 years, and perhaps then it will become reality. Just think of 600 years of interest to what will then be a billion eligible Americans.


10 posted on 07/09/2006 6:13:42 PM PDT by C210N (Bush SPYED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: JingoJim
I demand reparations for 5 Trillon Dollars in welfare to support blacks. I also demand reparations for bringing them to the greatest nation on earth. They could still be fighting to survive in Rwanda, The Sudan, Somalia.......... The ones that are here now are the lucky ones.

On another note. I refuse to pay one dime. I never owned a slave. No one in my family ever owned a slave. My ancestry had nothing to do with it, so why should I pay?

Another liberal idea that will backfire. You want an increase in racism and racist groups like the KKK, and other White Supremacy groups, force everyone to pay blacks.
11 posted on 07/09/2006 6:13:51 PM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: EagleUSA
I think I would have to go back to the 11th century to find any of my ancestors who owned any slaves.

Since I claim Viking blood it's a fair bet they had a few odd slaves now and again. Then again I'd bet most of those slaves would have been from England, Ireland, or mainland Europe.

Not too many Africans would have faired so well in the great cold north.
12 posted on 07/09/2006 6:14:08 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Weapons are not toys to play with, they are tools to be used.)
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To: JingoJim

I don't have any problem with businesses who have had ties to slavery being sued by those who can prove that their ancestors did not receive compensation for work done but I don't support reparations in a general sense. It has long been time to move on. Those that committed the wrongs have turned to dust and those who wait for pay outs to address past wrongs are short changing themselves and their children. People who wish to succeed don't let past wrongs hold them back but instead like many of the first free blacks paid for their freedom many times over and were empowered by their faith in God not the goodwill of governments and men.


13 posted on 07/09/2006 6:15:27 PM PDT by Maelstorm (If someone screams in an asylum full of lunatics do they make a sound?)
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To: MPJackal

How come they don't demand reperations from the arabs. They were the ones who caught and sold them.


14 posted on 07/09/2006 6:17:29 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: LeoWindhorse

And no longer allowed to run for public office of any kind!


15 posted on 07/09/2006 6:20:11 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Not Caught but still catching.

Children can still be had cheap in Sub Saharan Africa.


16 posted on 07/09/2006 6:20:12 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Weapons are not toys to play with, they are tools to be used.)
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To: JingoJim
I think I finally figured out the reparations plan. Liberals are already successful in legislating in the present and future to take our money. Now they are trying to legislate the past and redistribute more money.
17 posted on 07/09/2006 6:22:24 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: JingoJim
Ah, it's that time of year again.

The Dog Days of Summer, wherein loopy topics like this are elevated to national prominence while everyone's away on vacation.

18 posted on 07/09/2006 6:22:59 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Would Be Thieves

NO

19 posted on 07/09/2006 6:23:21 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: proudofthesouth

you got that right....


20 posted on 07/09/2006 6:23:33 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse (strive on with heedfulness)
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To: JingoJim

Figure out the average annual income of a black person in the USA vs. same for one in Africa. I want my share of the difference from every black American if in fact my ancestors are responsible for bringing them here.


21 posted on 07/09/2006 6:23:56 PM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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To: JingoJim

The slaves are dead and the people/corporations that used them are dead ....it was a bygone era ..... we are not beholding to them .... why should this generation pay for that generation???? And then too, who gets taxpayer's money??


22 posted on 07/09/2006 6:24:32 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("The Americans on Flight 93 did more to counter terrorism than the Democrats have done in 4 years")
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To: tickmeister

I once asked a black coworker who is in favor of this what her reasons were. She couldn't give me an answer. She simply saw this as free money. (BTW, she didn't know when her ancestors came to this country.)


23 posted on 07/09/2006 6:25:56 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: IronJack

Never gonna happen.

Thomas Sowell brilliantly explains why this is a dumb, illogical idea.


24 posted on 07/09/2006 6:27:15 PM PDT by rlmorel (John Murtha: Out of touch, Out of His Mind. Lets make him Out of Congress! DIANA IREY FOR CONGRESS!)
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To: MPJackal

Yeah, my parents came from Hungary in the 1950s. My family had nothing to do with slavery, so why should I have to pay.

Then again, maybe my family should be paid reparations by the Russian communists who tortured my grandfather to death and oppressed the Hungarian people for over 50 years, forcing my parents to flee Hungary with nothing but the clothes on their backs.

Nothing pisses me off more than people who think that I am somehow "privileged" because I'm white.


25 posted on 07/09/2006 6:28:17 PM PDT by massfreeper
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To: IronJack

Please mail my reparations check to:

55 W. 125th Street
Harlem, NY 10027

Sincerely,
Slick Willie Clinton, Esq.


26 posted on 07/09/2006 6:30:22 PM PDT by adm5
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To: JingoJim

Arab slave traders sold their ancestors into slavery, so they should get all the middle eastern oil money.


27 posted on 07/09/2006 6:30:57 PM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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To: LeoWindhorse
compensate for those that demand reparations with a 1st class one way ticket to Africa

Tight or loose pack?

28 posted on 07/09/2006 6:34:58 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: proudofthesouth

Reparations for slavery would lead to the armed insurection of every white man that has a set of balls and a weapon. I have both.


29 posted on 07/09/2006 6:36:32 PM PDT by USMA '71
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To: LeoWindhorse
we shall know no peace until the lawyers hands are pried off of American society's throat
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Which could easily be done if we put them on a salary scale for services rendered instead of allowing a per cent age of the spoils recovered.
30 posted on 07/09/2006 6:36:55 PM PDT by photodawg
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To: JingoJim

"This matter is growing in significance rather than declining," said Charles Ogletree, a Harvard law professor and a leading reparations activist. "It has more vigor and vitality in the 21st century than it's had in the history of the reparations movement."




He means it's going from none to slim and slim ain't around.


31 posted on 07/09/2006 6:39:29 PM PDT by Blackirish (Merry Fitzmas !!)
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To: JingoJim

Some of my ancestors were murdered, raped and enslaved when the moors from North Africa sacked Sicily, can I get some reparations from them?


32 posted on 07/09/2006 6:40:18 PM PDT by infidel29 ("Growing old is inevitable ... growing UP is optional.")
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To: JingoJim

I'm all for reparations - as long as they're figured net of the entire cost of the Union war effort in current dollars, including a reasonable figure for the Union dead. My rough math suggests that black Americans are probably net debtors on the cost of freeing them.


33 posted on 07/09/2006 6:42:15 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: JingoJim

Only in a pig's dream.


34 posted on 07/09/2006 6:43:52 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: tkathy

Actually, most of the slave traders were the local tribal "kings" and chiefs in the Western African areas from which the bulk of the slaves came. Perhaps African Americans should look to them, or their descendents, for compensation. Oh, I forgot, they're all broke except the Nigerians have some oil.


35 posted on 07/09/2006 6:44:16 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: JingoJim

Mid-term elections are coming up. Time to roil the base.


36 posted on 07/09/2006 6:45:23 PM PDT by kabar
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Slavery Reparations Gaining Momentum

Well, if they don't hurry up the last living person to have been a slave in the United States will have died...

Oh, wait a minute... That was 1865?

37 posted on 07/09/2006 6:47:47 PM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up two (2) seats in the Senate and four (4) seats in the House in 2006)
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To: JingoJim

I am all for reparations as long as my family gets reparation for the those who died to give them the freedoms they currently enjoy.

I am from the North.

Some of my family died in the Civl War just so they could complain a hundred years later.


38 posted on 07/09/2006 6:49:14 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (I alone, am the chosen one. Because I alone, did the choosing.)
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To: JingoJim

I would personally pay reparations, to any real, authentic, 175 year old slave that presents himself...


39 posted on 07/09/2006 6:50:08 PM PDT by RadioCirca1970
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To: PeteB570
Then again I'd bet most of those slaves would have been from England, Ireland, or mainland Europe.

A fair bet since the word 'slave' comes from the word "Slav" or those of Slovak or Slovenian heritage.

I don't have a link handy, but Thomas Sowell has written a book about the history of slavery in and outside of America. I'm sure the word is translated differently from other older cultures, but the specific word slave comes from the Slavish people according to Sowell. He was talking about it on one of the occaisions when Walter Williams subbed for Rush and had Sowell as a guest.

40 posted on 07/09/2006 6:50:40 PM PDT by infidel29 ("Growing old is inevitable ... growing UP is optional.")
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Have y'all ever noticed how the black leaders and white liberals in our country never, ever talk about stopping the foreign aid or use other means to stop slavery in Africa and other parts of the world?

Hmmmmm, perhaps its because they know that there is a snowball chance in hell of getting money out of it.


41 posted on 07/09/2006 7:00:45 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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I see no evidence of slavery reparations gaining momentum. I suppose it is all in the company you keep?


42 posted on 07/09/2006 7:03:54 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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Charles Ogletree, a Harvard law professor and a leading reparations activist.

Ok Charles open up YOUR checkbook and leave mine the hell alone.


43 posted on 07/09/2006 7:07:09 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: JingoJim

I think I'll start a thread on DU for reparations to be included in the Dem platform in 2008.


44 posted on 07/09/2006 7:10:49 PM PDT by Peelod (Decentia est fragilis. Curatoribus validis indiget.)
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To: JingoJim
Yawn.

The "Gimme, gimme, gimme more" crowd never stops. Blacks really shouldn't 'go there'. Taken to its extreme, they'd best head back to Africa and seek reparations from those fellow Black Africans who defeated and subdued their ancestors and sold them to the evil "White devils" for trinkets and loincloths. Seeking money and special privileges for pain and suffering they never experienced illustrates just how lazy, ungrateful and ignorant the 'Gimme' crowd really is.

45 posted on 07/09/2006 7:17:45 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: CatoRenasci

Africans look at Black Americans as a pooch looks at his doodie.....just leg kick some dirt on it to bury it.


46 posted on 07/09/2006 7:21:36 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Politicians are like diapers. They need changed often, and for the same reasons.)
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To: JingoJim

I want to get paid for the three years my great grandfather was away from his farm and family fighting to end slavery.


47 posted on 07/09/2006 7:36:51 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: JingoJim

Perhaps a formal apology from Congress would be in order, but I'm not for paying any sort of remission for slavery. For one, everyone who directly suffered is dead. For two, my family fought for the Union, and we paid in blood whatever we might owe.


48 posted on 07/09/2006 7:39:01 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: CatoRenasci
Actually, slave traders came in African, Arab, and European varieties. Also, Nigeria and Angola have oil. And other, smaller West African countries.
49 posted on 07/09/2006 7:53:31 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

A guess (only a guess), Mr. Jim was trolling.


50 posted on 07/09/2006 7:55:20 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( http://www.answersingenesis.org)
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