It's only surprising to the idiots.
Posted on 07/10/2006 1:39:16 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
President Bush will likely cast the first veto of his presidency if the Senate, as expected, passes legislation to expand federal funding of embryonic stem-cell research, White House aide Karl Rove said today.
"The president is emphatic about this," Rove said in a meeting with the editorial board of The Denver Post.
The U.S. House of Representatives has already passed the legislation, co-sponsored by Rep. Diana DeGette, D-Denver, and Rep. Mike Castle, R-Del. If the Senate approves the bill this month it would go to the president's desk.
(Excerpt) Read more at denverpost.com ...
It's only surprising to the idiots.
Excellent.
YAHOO...YAHOO...YAHOO.
Two threads with good news in 5 minutes...I just came from the thread that said that a Federal judges has said that raiding Cong. Jefferson's office was LEGAL!!!
We waited 5 years for him to veto republican bills that could have been attached to virtually any other piece of legislation like all the rest of the spending???
I understand the veto but ...
That's my President.
Scorecard:
Adult stem cells: hundreds of successful therapies
Embryonic stem cells: zero therapies, despite mega funding
Great. More pointless summer positioning over stem-cell research, just in time for September.
Destroying lives to save lives is not ethical. Bush realizes that. You don't, apparently.
No matter what you think about stem cell research, the government should not be subsidizing it.
Didn't think I'd ever President Bush and veto mentioned in the same sentence by somebody not making a joke.
Save lives by killing other living things?
What a pig this President has turned out to be.
Hardly, and especially when it comes to pro-life issues. Although your post has a certain porcine quality to it.
Embryonic Stem Cell research $$ just flows to the abortion mills.
Embryonic stem cells have cured ZERO diseases and saved Nobody. Adult stem cells on the other hand are a different story.
Any company can conduct the research, it just isn't federall funded. No lives lost with this veto Lunatic, whacko, far left fringe.
You're the oinker. What a nasty post. Your screen name fits you perfectly.
Kill to save hmmmmm
Or, are you saying he is using what is left of his popularity to go against a shortsighted, "science is God" mentality that will take not just America, but the entire world down a very scary and highly unnatural path?
When can only wonder if as India and China get richer and capable of doing similar research if their leaders will make such wise choices? A lot of Freepers will jump to some uneducated conclusions on that question.
"When can only wonder" = "One can only wonder"
Actually, he is saving lives by vetoing the bill.
Yeah, they'll turn it into a frickin' industry if they're allowed. Why AREN'T corps putting $$ into embryonics if its' so promising?
About time. Too bad he waited so long to veto something.
Fox New Alert just showed protest of NYT. Some FReeper dressed as Bin Laden made just on. On Neil Cavito right now.
Harvesting unborn children under the false belief they can save lives, is vile, and disgusting.
Thank God, that this President is willing to veto this.
What a pig this President has turned out to be.
"Pigs" like this, are what this country needs.
Not false liberal lions who kill children with tax payer money.
It only took him 5 years to veto a liberal piece of legislation despite a target rich environment. Hmmm...
Don't wars do that?
Didn't scientists discover about 2 months ago that they can harvest all the stem cells we'll ever need from mouse nuts/testicles? I'm sure I didn't hallucinate that on the news.
What a foolish and dare I say ignorant post yours is. Life should not be saved by the destruction of the innocent, and you being a Conservative should never expect the Federal Government to sanction that.(Oh and PS with the billions of private sector and foreign Govt investment and State Govt in embryonic stemcell research there have been no cures or real advancements however adult stemcells have proven to be a whole other story)
I wonder who it is.
I see you are well-trained... Save the hyperbole, nobody is killing children with taxpayer money. This is to fund research of embryonic stem cells that otherwise already exists. The money is not to create the stem cells, but to study them.
Why do people think government should fund embryonic stem cell research?
The answer: Because no one else is.
The real answer: If it actually worked, private companies would invest in it.
It would be literally flushing money down a drain. The government would be better off taking your tax dollars and going to Las Vegas, picking the game with the worst odds and letting it ride. Because at least then, there is a chance of some return.
If you like it, send your own money to fund it. It's perfectly legal. Don't make ME pay to kill human life just for the off-chance it might in a decade or two yield some benefit to those already living.
If you are going to support government funding of stem cell research, you have already abandoned the conservative principle of limited government performing only functions that are granted to it by the constitution.
Often the moral issues of what to let the government do and not do are caused by the failure to follow conservative principles -- by embracing limited government, we can avoid the entire argument over whether a particular thing is a good or bad thing.
I'd bet it's Dr.Raoul
This is pretty simple really.
Embryonic Stem Cells (ESCs) hold little or no potential for long term treatment or cure of anything.
Adult Stem Cells have 70 patents on proven and high potential treatment and cures.
IF ESC held any promise there would be no need for federal funding of research. The private sector would be flooding the market with investments.
The push for federal funding for ESC research is ALL about pretending there is a benefit to abortion.
LOL!
Not neccesarily. If the returns are too far into the future, almost no company would invest in it.
The DeGette bill funds new and unlimited lines of stem cells. Many of these lines will come from the abortion industry.
First, there is nothing that stops embryonic stem cell research now. In 2001, the President only prevented FEDERAL funding for it. The President will veto a bill which would permit federal funding.
Of the research that has been done, the only successes have come from use of adult (mature) stem cells, including bone marrow, umbilical cord, olfactory cells, etc. The patient's own stem cells can be, and have been, used, and there is no need to kill anything in the process.
The largest research institutions which do stem cell research are moving away from embryonic research precisely because it has been so unsuccessful. No progress or cures, but it has produced tumors in patients. I read an article several years ago that the use of embryonic stem-cells in Parkinson's patients made their diseases WORSE, not better.
We all want scientific progress and help for horrible diseases and paralysis, etc. That doesn't mean that the ONLY way to accomplish that is by killing another living being.
I guess that's why no company invested the money and ten years of time to develop magnetic computer chips.
Oops, one did.
There is no evidence that stem cell research has saved or will ever save a life. It is destroying existing lives for very minute chance that future lives may be saved. How did this even get passed in the House?
Boy, you really know how to swing folks to your point of view, don't you?
You pro-death, baby-killing idiots sure get mad when your diabolical plans are frustrated.
Pro-life bump.
It hasn't happened yet.
Knock it off.
California is doing that. Why not find out if their money does something first?
Why do you want to spend federal money to kill embryos when there is ZERO evidence that doing so will result in helpful therapies, and by so doing DIVERT funds to adult stem cell research that has proven to result in extremely beneficial therepies? Are you ignorant or simply an atheist who hates conservative values?
I don't know, but Frist now supports this foolishness in the Senate, so it will likely pass there as well.
Nancy Reagan his invoking her dead husband to shame people like Orrin Hatch into voting for it.
Yup. Private funding is low, from what I understand, because ESC research isn't promising. But the culture of death still wants to fund research on human embryos.
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