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Internet video shows mutilated US soldiers [Blood will Boil!]
AFP ^ | July 10, 2006

Posted on 07/10/2006 5:54:36 PM PDT by Alouette

THE Iraqi branch of al-Qaeda has put on the internet a video showing the mutilated bodies of two US soldiers kidnapped in June and executed to "avenge" an Iraqi woman raped near Mahmudiyah south of Baghdad.

"Here is a film on the remains of the bodies of the two American soldiers kidnapped near Yussufiyah (south of Baghdad). We are showing it to avenge our sister who was raped by a soldier belonging to the same division as these two soldiers," said a preamble by the Mujahedeen Al-Shura Council, an al-Qaeda dominated alliance of armed Sunni groups in Iraq.

When guerillas learned of the rape, "they repressed their sighs to avoid news of the affair spreading but they swore to avenge their sister", the council said on its usual website.

"Praise God, they captured two soldiers from the same division as this vile crusader. Here are the remains ... to rejoice the hearts of the faithful," the statement said.

The nearly five-minute film shows the horribly mutilated bodies of the two soldiers, who had had their throats cut.

(Excerpt) Read more at couriermail.news.com.au ...


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1 posted on 07/10/2006 5:54:38 PM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 07/10/2006 5:55:31 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 72-76)
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To: Alouette

What took them so long......btw..I have no intention to view it......God rest their souls.


3 posted on 07/10/2006 5:56:35 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: Alouette
I won't look, but I do wonder if the media told them this was to avenge the so called "rape" of their sister. I have a feeling they did.
4 posted on 07/10/2006 5:58:07 PM PDT by ladyinred (The NYTimes, hang 'em high!)
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To: Alouette

I suppose there's only one way to deal with an aggressor who values no life.


5 posted on 07/10/2006 5:58:27 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Rock on, my beautiful America!)
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To: Alouette

Allah's "one true messenger" is one sweetheart of a guy.


6 posted on 07/10/2006 5:58:49 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Alouette
THE Iraqi branch of al-Qaeda has put on the internet a video showing the mutilated bodies of two US soldiers kidnapped in June and executed to "avenge" an Iraqi woman raped near Mahmudiyah south of Baghdad.

That is pure BS.

7 posted on 07/10/2006 5:59:21 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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To: ladyinred

but I do wonder if the media told them this was to avenge the so called "rape" of their sister. I have a feeling they did.



I thought the same thing..


8 posted on 07/10/2006 5:59:35 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: ladyinred


As if there is an equivalence, or justification, to do what they did...granted these are US soldiers in a War Zone, they're in harms way, but our enemy is evil...about time the MSM gets on the right side of history and stops being apologists and supporters of terrorists.


9 posted on 07/10/2006 6:01:03 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: Alouette

These soldiers have names...

Pfc. Thomas L. Tucker, 25, of Madras, OR and Pfc. Kristian Menchaca, 23, of Houston, TX.


10 posted on 07/10/2006 6:01:14 PM PDT by socal_parrot (I thought I was dancing until somebody stepped on my hands.)
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To: ladyinred

I won't look, but I do wonder if the media told them this was to avenge the so called "rape" of their sister. I have a feeling they did.

&&
Agree -- to both points.


11 posted on 07/10/2006 6:02:53 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: ladyinred

>>I won't look, but I do wonder if the media told them this was to avenge the so called "rape" of their sister. I have a feeling they did.<<

Yep, all we really know is it was the same unit. We don't know if the rape charges will hold up and we don't know that there is any connection with the beheadings.


12 posted on 07/10/2006 6:04:18 PM PDT by gondramB (The options on the table have been there from the beginning. Withdraw and fail or commit and succeed)
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To: LasVegasMac

Since they "exacted vengance" then we don't need to go ahead with the trial of the accused soldiers, as the debt to society has already been paid.


13 posted on 07/10/2006 6:04:23 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: mystery-ak

I wonder if they would have to stone her to death (honor killing), if she weren't already dead, for getting raped. I am not making light of this but this is their MO.


14 posted on 07/10/2006 6:04:32 PM PDT by SICSEMPERTYRANNUS
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To: TexKat

I won't go to see this...not sure why..something to do with respect for our soldiers.

God rest their souls and comfort their families.


15 posted on 07/10/2006 6:05:04 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Alouette

These animals that did this act of butchury should die a very long and painfull death.I would prefer white phosphorous or better yet napalm.The U.S. needs to bring napalm back into the inventory.I want these animals to suffer.


16 posted on 07/10/2006 6:05:28 PM PDT by puppypusher
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To: Alouette

AQ always has a "reason" why they murder people. The "reason" is always different, yet they continue to murder people. Which just goes to show the "reason" is BOGUS.


17 posted on 07/10/2006 6:05:39 PM PDT by mypetjawa
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To: Alouette

I won't watch the video. I just hope the 5 [if they are indeed guilty of what they're charged with] get a long time in a cell with the picture of the bodies of these two innocent butchered men on the walls of their cells.
[This reminds me of an old John Wayne movie-- "Sands of Iwo Jima"?]


18 posted on 07/10/2006 6:05:42 PM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: socal_parrot

Thank you for remembering they are people....not just numbers.


19 posted on 07/10/2006 6:08:08 PM PDT by pgobrien (82d Abn Inf pings......)
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To: SE Mom

I will either what does the war hero MURTHA,RAT DEMOCRATS,MSM have to say about this is he happy with his condemenation and guilty verdict of our military men "PISS ON ALL OF THEM"


20 posted on 07/10/2006 6:09:41 PM PDT by dubyawhoiluv
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To: socal_parrot

Thank you, and they also have families. I can't imagine how this adds to their pain.


21 posted on 07/10/2006 6:12:26 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: mystery-ak; Southack
I viewed it...people need to see at least the screen grabs..

Southack...there is a screen grab of a jihadist holding a severed head...and off in the distance you can see two phone towers....along a river....at least the death site can be ID'ed.

They could gleam some intel from this video..

22 posted on 07/10/2006 6:13:39 PM PDT by Dog
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To: McLynnan

This may sound cold....but...pain is good...we need the masses to see our enemy for what it truly is....animals.


23 posted on 07/10/2006 6:15:02 PM PDT by Dog
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To: socal_parrot

24 posted on 07/10/2006 6:15:18 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 72-76)
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To: SE Mom
I won't go to see this...not sure why..something to do with respect for our soldiers.

Nor will I SE Mom, but we will never forget!

25 posted on 07/10/2006 6:15:31 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: ladyinred
I do wonder if the media told them this was to avenge the so called "rape" of their sister. I have a feeling they did.

You are correct. When the scum first made an announcement about the soldiers, there was no mention of it being revenge for anything. They would not have left out that pseudo-justification, except for the fact that the MSM hadn't invented it for them yet.

And note how the MSM dumbs-down the definition of "vengeance," since these two soldiers weren't the ones accused of anything.

While we're at it, I'll bet the accusations of rape by the other soldier are false. They sound like an embroidered tale told by a child—or like Moslem PR.

26 posted on 07/10/2006 6:17:07 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Alouette

Watching one beheading on the Michael Savage website was enough for me for a lifetime. I too, will not watch this. My thoughts are with these soldier's families. We are human and our blood boils in reponse to this news but THEY ARE cockroaches and therefore nothing in their skeleton raises their blood one degree.


27 posted on 07/10/2006 6:17:39 PM PDT by jhw61
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To: Dog

I can't do it Dog, I just can't...


28 posted on 07/10/2006 6:18:12 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: Alouette; DevSix
This maybe their bodies, but dead not alive. This maybe proof at the time of the attack, these two soldiers were killed. The bodies were taken then mutilated...otherwise, we'd have video's of the alive soldiers being mutilated...which we don't.
29 posted on 07/10/2006 6:20:11 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: mystery-ak
btw..I have no intention to view it......

Nor me mystery. You cannot erase what your eyes have seen.

I don't believe they did it as claimed for their "sister". They did it for the sport and because they are what they are.

May these two young men forever rest with God.

30 posted on 07/10/2006 6:20:22 PM PDT by daybreakcoming ("We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail")
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To: Dog

No, it doesn't sound cold, but if that were my son I wouldn't want his mutiliated corpse on the internet so every voyeur with a computer could check it out. It would feel like the ultimate violation. That's why I won't look at it. These animals don't allow dignity even in death.


31 posted on 07/10/2006 6:20:29 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: ladyinred
Moslems into vendetta usually "avenge the rape of their sister" by killing that sister.
32 posted on 07/10/2006 6:22:17 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: mystery-ak

I know...


33 posted on 07/10/2006 6:22:32 PM PDT by Dog
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To: shield

This maybe proof at the time of the attack, these two soldiers were killed. The bodies were taken then mutilated...otherwise, we'd have video's of the alive soldiers being mutilated...which we don't.


I and their families, I'm sure, pray you are right....


34 posted on 07/10/2006 6:22:51 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: Gay State Conservative

their "god'" is a pig, an son of a whore.
Makes me sooooooooooooooooo pissed to see these brave men treated this way, and to hear that other son of a whore Murtha as much as saying the deserved it.
may the Mooslims all rot in hell....


35 posted on 07/10/2006 6:24:14 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( When are we going to draw a line a say"this far and no farther")
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To: mystery-ak

It's not my thinking...it's the military's thinking.


36 posted on 07/10/2006 6:26:46 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: mystery-ak

Yes. I continue to pray for the families and friends of Pfc Tucker and Pfc Menchaca...


37 posted on 07/10/2006 6:27:14 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: mystery-ak; ladyinred
Al-Qaeda says new leader 'beheaded' kidnapped US soldiers

MUSSAB AL-KHAIRALLA IN BAGHDAD

Key quote:

"We give the good news ... to the Islamic nation that we have carried God's verdict by slaughtering the two captured crusaders. With God Almighty's blessing, Abu Hamza al-Muhajir carried out the verdict of the Islamic court for the soldiers' killing." - MUJAHIDEEN SHURA COUNCIL STATEMENT

Story in full: TWO United States soldiers missing in Iraq for three days after being kidnapped at a checkpoint have been found dead, their bodies showing signs of "barbaric" torture, it was announced yesterday.

An internet statement by al-Qaeda in Iraq claimed its new leader, Abu Hamza al-Muhajir, had personally "slit the throats" of, or beheaded, Thomas Lowell Tucker, 25, and Kristian Menchaca, 23, both privates.

The US military launched a major search involving 8,000 troops after vowing not to leave the soldiers "out there".

But yesterday, Major-General William Caldwell, a US military spokesman, said: "Coalition forces have recovered what we believe are the remains of the soldiers." He said a joint US- Iraqi force found the bodies on Monday night dumped at an electrical plant, but their recovery was delayed by having to defuse bombs planted nearby.

Major-General Abdul Aziz Mohammed, an Iraqi defence ministry official, said the bodies showed signs of "barbaric torture", but did not elaborate.

An internet statement from the Mujahideen Shura Council, which groups seven insurgent organisations, including al-Qaeda, in Iraq, said: "We give the good news ... to the Islamic nation that we have carried God's verdict by slaughtering the two captured crusaders. With God Almighty's blessing, Abu Hamza al-Muhajir carried out the verdict of the Islamic court for the soldiers' killing."

The use of the word "slaughter" suggested the soldiers had been beheaded by Muhajir. The Arabic word nahr is used for the slaughtering of sheep by cutting the throat and has been used to refer to beheadings.

If true, it would be the first act of violence by Muhajir, an Egyptian, since he was named as al-Qaeda in Iraq's leader on 12 June. He succeeded Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who was killed in a US airstrike on 7 June. Attributing the killings to Muhajir might be an attempt to build up the image of the new leader.

A spokesman for the Tucker family said yesterday that they were expecting the worst.

Pte Tucker's relatives declined to comment, but released the text of a phone message he recently left, telling his mother to be proud of him. "I'm defending my country," Pte Tucker said. "Tell Sis and my nephews hello for me. I'm OK. I'm on my way."

A member of the US army's casualty assistance office met Pte Menchaca's mother, Maria Vasquez, yesterday and said it could take two or three days for DNA tests to be completed.

Her niece, Felipa Gomez, said the family had been watching television news reports of the Iraqi military announcement. "She's hanging in there" and still holding on to hope that her son would somehow make it back alive, Ms Gomez said.

Sgt Jesus Rolnmedina, who spoke to her, said the bodies "had a lot of trauma".

Pte Menchaca's uncle, Ken MacKenzie, lashed out at the US government, saying it did not do enough to bring the men home safe. "Because the US government did not have a plan in place, my nephew has paid for it with his life," he said.

Mr MacKenzie said the government should have offered a $100 million (£54 million) reward and offered to exchange Mujahideen detainees for the soldiers' lives. It had seized enough money from Saddam Hussein to afford it, he said.

The US soldiers went missing at dusk on Friday after an ambush at a checkpoint in Yusufiya, a town south of Baghdad some Iraqis call the "Triangle of Death", which is an al-Qaeda stronghold. Another soldier was killed.

The deaths dealt a blow to the US military after it killed Zarqawi on 7 June near Baquba, north-east of Baghdad. However, the US authorities yesterday said it had killed another leading al-Qaeda in Iraq figure.

A man described as the group's "religious emir" was killed in an airstrike on Monday, hours before the two soldiers went missing and in the area where their bodies were found.

Sheik Mansour al-Mashhadani, an Iraqi aged between 35 and 37, and two foreign fighters, including a cell leader identified as Abu Tariq, were killed as they were trying to escape in a vehicle near Youssifiyah.

Gen Caldwell said that Mashhadani played a key religious and recruiting role in the organisation and was tied to the senior leadership, including Muhajir.

He "reportedly served as a right-hand man of Zarqawi's, and also served as a liaison between al-Qaeda in Iraq and the various tribes in the Youssifiyah area," Gen Caldwell said.

Citing intelligence sources, the general also said Mashhadani was responsible for shooting down a coalition aircraft in the spring.

The US military captured Mashhadani in July 2004, but they let him go because he was not deemed to be an important terrorism figure at the time.

Gen Caldwell said Mashhadani joined al-Qaeda in Iraq after his release in autumn 2004. He displayed photos said to show Mashhadani with a moustache before his death and with a battered face and one eye closed after he was killed.

Another picture identified him as a masked figure sitting with Zarqawi.

A document seized from an al-Qaeda hideout and released byMouwafak al-Rubaie, a national security adviser, last week that portrayed the insurgency in Iraq as being in "bleak" shape was also directly linked to Mashhadani, Gen Caldwell said.

38 posted on 07/10/2006 6:27:43 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: SamuraiScot

Indeed, again I stated this several times before. On June 20th the savages made public claims they executed the soldiers but made NO mention of it being revenge.

A week ago or so, the L.A. times was the first to come out publicly wondering if there was a link between the rape/murders and the mutilations of these two soldiers. I was furious, as I knew that this gave the savages an opening (as well as their anti war MSM bed fellows). Now they can say, oh, yea, we did it as revenge for the rape after all.

Sick


39 posted on 07/10/2006 6:28:07 PM PDT by World_Events
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To: shield
Are you saying the military knows this to be true?

I hope this is what you're saying!

40 posted on 07/10/2006 6:30:38 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: mystery-ak

"I can't do it Dog, I just can't..."

Nor I.


41 posted on 07/10/2006 6:31:43 PM PDT by Canedawg (In God We Trust)
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To: Alouette
The NY Slimes dedicated well over 100 stories to the so called abuse of terrorists at abu Garib prison by U.S. troops ... in the first couple of months after the story broke. Most of that NY Times coverage on the front page.
The two U.S. Army soldiers in this instance, so brutally murdered and disfigured it required DNA to positively identify the remains ... received front page coverage just one day, never to be mentioned again ... at least, if at all, anywhere near the front page
42 posted on 07/10/2006 6:32:21 PM PDT by BluH2o
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This must be a faked video .
According to the Democrats-especially John Murtha and John Kerry and their allies- the non FOX US media-the only barbarians are American servicemen.
Al Queda and Muslim fanatics are the good guys.

God rest the souls of Pfc. Thomas L. Tucker, 25 and Pfc. Kristian Menchaca, 23.


43 posted on 07/10/2006 6:33:14 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: ladyinred; Allegra; Marine_Uncle; SandRat

I think the rape story is common in Iraq. For all we know, it is true. They are of the same platoon. The odds of that by chance I think would be quite large. And it is so typically Iraqi, that I tend to believe it more than disbelieve it.


44 posted on 07/10/2006 6:33:58 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: shield

My hubby told me when this first happened that he tought they were killed out right because there was no video of them being tortured to death....I am glad he was right, for the family's sake...there by the grace of God go I...


45 posted on 07/10/2006 6:34:00 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: Alouette

This makes me sick....and my senator Dick Turbin thinks we're the bad guys....why don't we get serious and kick the dogshit outta these pukes?


46 posted on 07/10/2006 6:36:04 PM PDT by Driver32 (I like airplane noise, followed by booms)
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To: Dog
we need the masses to see our enemy for what it truly is....animals.

I don't get it. Why is brutality always associated with animals ? Savages, yes. But animals ? Animals never inflict pain and brutality on other animals with the express purpose of doing such?

As I said in an earlier post, Zarqawi got off light. Too bad he couldn't be mutilated/decapitated with a used Gillette Sensor Excel while seated on his knees in front of a webcam.

47 posted on 07/10/2006 6:36:54 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: Alouette

We can bet the MSM (driveby media) will be watching this American unit like hawks for more pictures/stories of American "atrocities", never mind the murdering terrorists.


48 posted on 07/10/2006 6:37:07 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: Alouette

I watched it but it wasn't easy.

It DOES make my blood boil. There in't a ring of Hell deep enough for these scum. I pray they join their pedophile homosexual leader in hell with pigs roasting all around them while their throats are cut but the cuts never complete.

It was a difficult decison to watch -- I saw the behading video and it haunts me to this day.

But America and the rest of the Western World needs to see The Enemy clearly.


49 posted on 07/10/2006 6:37:25 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: Alouette
Should be played before a joint session of Congress, maybe the State of the Union to wake the entire country up!!

God rest their souls and comfort their families.

50 posted on 07/10/2006 6:39:04 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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