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Why is LBJ's name NEVER mentioned by liberals?
July 11, 2006

Posted on 07/11/2006 6:14:32 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

Why is the father of The Great Society ignored? Sure, he messed up with Viet Nam, but that's blamed on W anyway, but he made sure to transfer zillions of dollar$$$ from your back pockets to the back pockets of other people. What's up with that?


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Always wondered.
1 posted on 07/11/2006 6:14:34 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch

Good question... perhaps because he was a corrupt uncooth Texican? A necessary evil on the ticket of Camelot-Boy?


2 posted on 07/11/2006 6:16:30 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: InvisibleChurch

LBJ isn't mentioned because they want to pretend that the Vietnam War was thought up by Nixon.


3 posted on 07/11/2006 6:18:13 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: InvisibleChurch

Vietnam.


4 posted on 07/11/2006 6:18:25 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I've always believed it was Vietnam.

As much as the Dems wanted everyone to believe that Vietnam was "Nixon's War", it really wasn't. It was Johnson's.


5 posted on 07/11/2006 6:18:36 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: InvisibleChurch

Liberals like to blame Nixon, and, they will never face reality if facing reality causes them to give up a beloved fantasy. Mentioning LBJ would take them too close to reality, so they avoid him.

Simple as that.

Regards,


6 posted on 07/11/2006 6:19:01 AM PDT by The Liberal Whisperer
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To: InvisibleChurch

Also, becuae his Presidency was short and ended almost 40 years ago. He is long dead and his term was sorounded by other significant Presidencies (Roosevelt to Reagan). He was also a crude Texan which Lib's don't like (they prefer crude manhattanites). Hard to believe but his term of office was as far back as Coolidge's was then, and Keennedy's as far back as Harding's.


7 posted on 07/11/2006 6:19:08 AM PDT by bilhosty (to hell with ABCNNBCBS)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Because it's "common knowledge" that he was behind the JFK assassination?

And if he wasn't, he was the one who benefitted the most from his death.


8 posted on 07/11/2006 6:19:24 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: MplsSteve

Kennedy and Johnson.


9 posted on 07/11/2006 6:19:26 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: ko_kyi
"LBJ isn't mentioned because they want to pretend that the Vietnam War was thought up by Nixon."

I have a "progressive" friend that truly believes that Nixon started the war.
10 posted on 07/11/2006 6:20:12 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Larry Lucido

Yes, that's true.

I neglected to mention Kennedy.


11 posted on 07/11/2006 6:20:35 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: InvisibleChurch

Halliburton.

He and his wife where, and his children are the biggest founding stock owners.


12 posted on 07/11/2006 6:20:57 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: InvisibleChurch

My $0.02:

-He isn't FDR
-He isn't a Yankee
-He took over from JFK (through no fault of his own)
-He is a Southerner (Texans may dispute that tag - fair enough)
-He waged and escalated a huge war
-He remained an adult during the everyone-back-to-their-childhood 1960s
-He didn't give it the bit-lip, wipe-a-tear routine when talking about poverty, even though he wrote some huge gummint checks.


13 posted on 07/11/2006 6:21:04 AM PDT by relictele
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To: InvisibleChurch

Same reason we don't often mention Nixon.


14 posted on 07/11/2006 6:22:42 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (OEF vet says: I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Let's discuss here. If LBJ was a liberal, then what was up with his involvement in Vietnam?

Compare to today's liberals where they are rejecting Lieberman for his strong national defense stance.

15 posted on 07/11/2006 6:22:56 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Reminds me of one of the old stories about LBJ(there were many and who knows which ones were true).

He's tooling around the Johnson Ranch in his station wagon with a host of Secret Service agents in pursuit. Finally, he stops, gets out and proceeds to unzip his fly to relieve himself. Instinctively, the agents circle around the president while he's making his bladder gladder. The wind kicks up and moves his stream against the leg of an agent. The agent says "Mr. President, you're peeing on me!" The president replies, "son, that's my privilege."


16 posted on 07/11/2006 6:24:33 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: dljordan

"I have a "progressive" friend that truly believes that Nixon started the war."

Your progressive friend is an idiot. But then, aren't most of them?


17 posted on 07/11/2006 6:24:47 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Sometimes they mention his name to pay tribute to Medicare, Voting Rights Act, etc., but they hold him at arm's length because they're scared of his many failures in Vietnam and the so-called "War on Poverty".


18 posted on 07/11/2006 6:24:47 AM PDT by blitzgig
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To: InvisibleChurch

You couldn't be more right about this & it's an excellent question, because he did more to advance the reach of the all-powerful nanny-state so near & dear to the heart of those who call themselves "liberal", although there's nothing remotely liberal about the idea that average citizens' lives have to forcibly managed from cradle to grave by those who fancy themselves more enlightened, than anybody. But I think Tijeras Slim is on to something: there seems to be the taint of sainted Kennedy blood on the man, at least in their eyes.


19 posted on 07/11/2006 6:24:53 AM PDT by leilani
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To: Let's Roll
Because it's "common knowledge" that he was behind the JFK assassination?

And if he wasn't, he was the one who benefitted the most from his death.

Libs are combatting that one with Nixon was behind JFK's assasination. A book is coming out saying that Nixon knew about JFK being on the mafia hit list for his war on organized crime. Oh brother!!

20 posted on 07/11/2006 6:26:00 AM PDT by paltz
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To: InvisibleChurch
Because he said we were going to war over dominoes and it turned out they play cribbage instead.

 

21 posted on 07/11/2006 6:27:12 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: MplsSteve
As much as the Dems wanted everyone to believe that Vietnam was "Nixon's War", it really wasn't. It was Johnson's.

Ike and Kennedy also have some responsibility. Was it not Kennedy who approved the assination of the President of South Vietnam? However, it was LBJ who dramatically increased troop numbers and I believe McNamara who thought the war "unwinable". Once Nixon was elected the moonbats took over the Democratic party and engineered the surrender.

22 posted on 07/11/2006 6:27:24 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: relictele
-He isn't FDR

Ye cats and little kittens, even FDR (the man) wasn't the FDR (the legend) liberals have created. The same can be said -- the man vs. the myth -- re: Kennedy and Jefferson as well.

23 posted on 07/11/2006 6:28:17 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Who you callin "uncouth"? LBJ was couth as Hell.


24 posted on 07/11/2006 6:28:26 AM PDT by TEXASPROUD
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To: The Liberal Whisperer
Liberals like to blame Nixon,

Back in the day, the hippies used to holler: "Hey! Hey! LBJ! How many kids did you kill today?". Now that's all down the memory hole.

25 posted on 07/11/2006 6:28:57 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

It's all about VW. That's why he didn't run in 1968.


26 posted on 07/11/2006 6:29:17 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

He was the last Democrat who loved his country. He was a bastard, but he wasn't willing to sell out the US. To be a good Liberal nowadays who have to hate America. No matter what you think about his policies LBJ thought America was the best damn country on the planet (and he was right.)


27 posted on 07/11/2006 6:29:19 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: MinorityRepublican

LBJ's use of the Tonkin Gulf incident to escalate the US's involvement in Vietnam was his way of saying 'don't look behind the curtain' re his role in the JFK hit. Same goes for the civil rights legislation. He didn't give a whit about anything other than making it to the Oval Office.


28 posted on 07/11/2006 6:29:24 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: InvisibleChurch

Lyndon's daughters had a guest column in the Houston Chronicle the other day. They had the nerve to use his name in the same sentence with the Voting Rights Act. LOL!! Think of the rigged elections he was involved with!! And they want to bring up his name and voting rights!


29 posted on 07/11/2006 6:30:09 AM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: rhombus

If I'm correct (and I need to verify this), Eisenhower supplied only weapons and logistical support to the French.

Eisenhower hadn't yet committed US troops to act as advisors for the South Vietnamese army - or did he? Didn't the use of US advisors start with Kennedy?


30 posted on 07/11/2006 6:30:23 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: InvisibleChurch
Because, he couldn't pronounce "nuclear" either.
31 posted on 07/11/2006 6:30:31 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: TEXASPROUD
LBJ was couth as Hell.

"Walk upright, boy! Like a New Mexican!" :)

32 posted on 07/11/2006 6:31:38 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: paltz

Johnson was on the ticket in 1960 to bring in Texas. His style and beliefs were very different from JFK but the Dems had no value system even back then. When JFK was assassinated, the Dems were stuck with LBJ. It was kind of like when they got Clinton after he emerged from the pack of nobodies in 1992 to get the nomination and then Perot's presence in the race handed him the presidency. Do you think Liberals would have chosen the governor of a rube state like Arkansas? They hate the South, Nascar, etc. How well did Clinton's welfare reform sit with the party leadership and the liberals... Their true heros are people like Kerry and Dean...


33 posted on 07/11/2006 6:32:03 AM PDT by seamusnh
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To: InvisibleChurch; sionnsar
Why just yesterday the National Association of Secretaries of State gave him an award!

"NASS President and Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed nominated Johnson for the award and expressed his admiration for the former president’s political courage."

Sam Reed is WA states RINO (he might as well be a Democrat) Secretary of State.

34 posted on 07/11/2006 6:32:22 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: oldleft

"He was the last Democrat who loved his country."

I'd urinate on his grave.


35 posted on 07/11/2006 6:32:32 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: ko_kyi
You know I'm sick and tired of all this revisionist history bunk. The seeds of the Viet Nam War were sown by that evil Republican President Harry Truman and the Containment Policy of his advisor McKenna. The Viet Nam policy was further exacerbated by those Evil "initialed" Pubs JFK and LBJ.

Of course it was Nixom's fault! The 20 years prior to his taking office was an era or piece and prop-scarcity. We need only look at Korea, Hungary, Poland, Romania, Greece, Turkey, Isreal and Cuba to name just a few places where "Truth, Justice and "All that stuff" could be found!

36 posted on 07/11/2006 6:32:39 AM PDT by Young Werther
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To: Tijeras_Slim
TexiCan? Don't you mean Texian?
37 posted on 07/11/2006 6:32:57 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Notwithstanding

Nixon said "If we bomb Hanoi and block Haiphong Harbor, we'll bring them to their knees."

Well, we did, until we brought the Commies to the negotiating table. Then, what had worked, was stopped, and further negotiations were crippled.

Wonder, who stopped our military from winning the war in Vietnam? Hmmmmm?


38 posted on 07/11/2006 6:33:28 AM PDT by wizr (Paranoia can be rational, if someone really is after you.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I have long contended that LBJ was one of the absolute worst presidents. I'm too recently returned to the world of the wakeful to go through a list of reasons, but suffice it to say it can be very well summed up in one word: Vietnam. Or two words, depending on your dictionary: Viet Nam. He lurched through his presidency before he crashed and burned, taking our nation to new depths of ignominy.

The libs never mention him because LBJ was a liability in every way. His excesses could make bubba's seem juvenile. He was JFK's biggest mistake.


39 posted on 07/11/2006 6:34:22 AM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: Ditter

Whatever you call those poor benighted souls living so close to New Mexico. ;)


40 posted on 07/11/2006 6:34:23 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Let's Roll

41 posted on 07/11/2006 6:35:26 AM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: MplsSteve

"In 1954, the French implored Eisenhower to send the U.S. Navy to rescue Vietnam. Eisenhower refused. He acquiesced in the division of Vietnam into a Communist North and a South informally allied with the United States and sent a few hundred advisors."

If you can believe Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Eisenhower


42 posted on 07/11/2006 6:35:50 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus
Ike and Kennedy also have some responsibility.

Hell, Truman bears some responsibility, too, for not giving Uncle Ho his due after fighting the Japs along with us.

43 posted on 07/11/2006 6:37:13 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: InvisibleChurch

1. The 'Rats try to blame Vietnam on Nixon, but they know that there are too many people who won't go along with that and remember chanting things like, "Hey, Hey LBJ how many boys did you kill today?" They also realize that if history were to be assessed accurately, that the initial blame for Vietnam would have to be put on JFK and the WILL NEVER allow that, so they let LBJ be the fall guy.

2. The civil rights movement and Great Society hurt the 'Rats more than it helped them. They alienated the Southern politicians and furthered the notion of the elite Northeast liberal. Nixon won in 1968 because he won the South and the 'Rats will never forget this. They realize today that they have lost the South and that their only success on the national level has been to run Southerners (Carter and Clinton) and pretend they are moderates. By the time 2000 came around they realized that they couldn't even pull that charade off anymore. Were it not for LBJ, they think they would still have the South and with it total control of the country.


45 posted on 07/11/2006 6:38:44 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: MplsSteve

Ladybird owned Fruhoff (which was the exclusive contracted transporter of military stuff) and much of Bell Helicopter (Huey's--the disposable vehicle of Viet Nam).


46 posted on 07/11/2006 6:38:45 AM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

How true. For liberals, history is always being rewritten.

But as the old saying goes, Democrats start wars, Republicans end them.


47 posted on 07/11/2006 6:39:25 AM PDT by The Liberal Whisperer
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Hell, Truman bears some responsibility, too, for not giving Uncle Ho his due after fighting the Japs along with us.

A Ho Ho for Uncle Ho or maybe just a Ho. We should have also given Castro a job playing baseball.

48 posted on 07/11/2006 6:40:51 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: InvisibleChurch
LBJ was was unrefined and uncouth
He put whiskey in his martinis instead of vermouth
He held his dogs up by their ears
After he had a few beers
He didn't croak in a state of perpetual golden-boy youth

Leni

49 posted on 07/11/2006 6:41:01 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: InvisibleChurch

LBJ gave dems every liberal program they ever wanted, but as a southerner from Texas he was never accepted. To the NE liberal intellectuals, LBJ was common, maybe even crass... sooooooo not a Kennedy.


50 posted on 07/11/2006 6:41:20 AM PDT by GOPJ (Conservative MSM Publishers are letting liberal monkeys run the zoo.)
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