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Esquire puts Mccain on the Cover (The Mccain Mutiny Strikes Again)
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Posted on 07/11/2006 11:35:49 AM PDT by SDGOP

Esquire Puts One Of Their Own On The Cover -- McCain

mccain2.JPG Sen. John McCain is the subject of a very positive yet appropriately elegiac profile in the coming issue of Esquire. Written by Chris Jones , it's slated for the cover.

The thesis: McCain is worried about the country he loves. And he's running for president, certainly for the last time, to save it. And because of who he is -- because of his iconoclasm, his war experiences, his conviction – “you’re inclined to believe him and to believe that he’s correct.”

Esquire is an upscale, un-conservative gentleman's magazine. The title is very provocative: "One Of Us."

There's also a side bar about McCain's chief political adviser, John Weaver.

Here are two, somewhat out-of-context choice cuts from the profile, just to give its flavor.

McCain: "People always ask me if I'm still mad about what happened in 2000. What in the world is the point of being mad at something that happened six years ago? Did I like it? No. Was I angry at the time? Yes. Did I spend ten wonderful days after I lost feeling sorry for myself? Yes. There's nothing better than feeling sorry for yourself. But there's no point to it, either. I mean, how would it sound if I said, 'Dear citizens of Arizona: I'd like to run for reelection and represent you in the United States Senate. By the way, I'm still pissed off over South Carolina, so I'm sure you'll understand when I spend a lot of my time getting even.' It's over."

McCain: "I understand the frustrations a lot of Republicans feel. We're not representing their hopes and dreams and aspirations. We worry about Ms. Schiavo before we worry about balancing the budget. We're going to take up this Family Marriage Amendment again. Why? The Republicans will vote one way, and the Democrats will vote another, and everybody knows it! It's pointless. I've never seen Washington as polarized as it is today."

McCain: "I would never say this publicly, but some of these talk-show hosts -- and I'm not saying they should be taken off the air; they have the right to do what they want to do -- I don't think they're good for America."

McCain: "I urge my friends who complain about the influence of the religious Right, get out there and get busy. That's what they do! Now, if we believe in the Republican party of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt, the big-tent party, then we have to get out there and show that. The fact is, some of us have sat idly by while those very active people have basically set the agenda for our party. I get attacked everyday because I'm working with Ted Kennedy. How can I work with Kennedy? Because I want to get something done."

More excerpts after the jump.

For weeks, McCain has plugged the immigration-reform package that he put together with Ted Kennedy and that will be voted on in the Senate next week. He has been attacked for creating a path to what he calls "earned citizenship" -- his critics call amnesty -- but now it's his turn to go on the offensive. McCain: "Are we a xenophobic, nativist country? Everybody in this room has an ancestor who came here for the same reason these people came here." Taking sips from their glasses of white win, many of those standing next to the piano [McCain is at a fundraiser in Darien, CT] nod, suddenly one with the Mexicans."

McCain: "I think the biggest mistake we could make is to underestimate Hillary Clinton. She's smart and she's tough. She's very disciplined in all ways -- unlike her husband -- and I think she's formidable. Plus, she already has $20 million in the bank. If we don't get our act together..."

He also believes that time is running out, not because he is growing old -- or not just because he is growing old -- but because our politics and even our sense of common identity have degenerated so quickly. The fact is, John McCain believes we are the ones who need saving, not him. Even with his audience's prodding, he refuses to speak ill of Mrs. Clinton. But in his artful, season way, McCain has given his audience his considered sales pitch for his brand of hawkish, no-bullshit conservatism, marbled with just enough compassion and reason and bipartisanship to set him apart from other Republican breast beaters. Tonight in Connecticut, McCain is of Connecticut. Tomorrow he will be of Delaware, and on Sunday he will be of Maine.

[On a charter plane ....]

"And as usual, there is an odd intimacy among the small group on board, often no more than a couple of longtime aides like Weaver. They share the newspaper, a couple of Heinekens, small talk. Tonight, shortly before touchdown, McCain becomes aware that his hair is standing up. "John," he says to [chief political adviser John Weaver, "I think my hair is out of place." He announces this out loud because he cannot lift his arms above his shoulders. Weaver, casually dressed and a soft-spoken Texas gentleman, reaches across the top of McCain's head, smoothing it. There is a tenderness in the gesture, as there is whenever Weaver straightens McCain's collar or brushes the lint from his jacket. There is tenderness, but there is also a kind of sadness."


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: crackpot; looser; mccain; rino
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Don't you just love mccain's comments about the 'religous right' and his veiled desire to shut down rush? What say you mccainiacs? How on earth can you still pimp this looser
1 posted on 07/11/2006 11:35:53 AM PDT by SDGOP
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To: SDGOP

I hope McCain does a few more interviews like this.

Then we won't have to worry about anyone in the GOP taking his presidential aspirations seriously.


2 posted on 07/11/2006 11:38:55 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: SDGOP

3 posted on 07/11/2006 11:40:15 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: Bikers4Bush

Indeed. You think from these latest stumbles that he is being advised by James Carville?


4 posted on 07/11/2006 11:40:17 AM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Bikers4Bush

McCain's plan is to ride to the White House on a great tidal wave of passionate Republican moderates.


5 posted on 07/11/2006 11:42:05 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: Patrick1

I saw an Esquire magazine in the dentist's office a week ago. I'm still trying to figure out what it is.


6 posted on 07/11/2006 11:42:56 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

7 posted on 07/11/2006 11:43:03 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: Patrick1

Hell as bad as this thing is I think he may actually be getting advice from hillary.


8 posted on 07/11/2006 11:43:53 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: SDGOP

More of the MSM shoving McCain down our throats. He is mainly beloved inside the covers of money-losing publications.


9 posted on 07/11/2006 11:45:18 AM PDT by rod1
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To: AmericanMade1776

10 posted on 07/11/2006 11:45:24 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: SDGOP

If he won the nomination I'm afraid I just wouldn't vote. I'd have to take a bucket with me to puke in if I pushed that button.


11 posted on 07/11/2006 11:46:10 AM PDT by rwrcpa1 (April 15. Let's make it just another day.)
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To: rod1

It was the strawberries. That's where I had them...


12 posted on 07/11/2006 11:46:19 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

You might be able to call Esquire Un-Conservative, but you can hardly call them gentlemen.

13 posted on 07/11/2006 11:47:21 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

What's with Esquire and the crotch-level photos?


14 posted on 07/11/2006 11:47:57 AM PDT by LexBaird ("Politically Correct" is the politically correct term for "F*cking Retarded". - Psycho Bunny)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Surely you jest?


15 posted on 07/11/2006 11:48:47 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: SDGOP
“you’re inclined to believe him and to believe that he’s correct.”

Ummm, NO I'M NOT!

16 posted on 07/11/2006 11:49:17 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: AmericanMade1776

Bill Clinton the most influential man in world..ohhhhhhhhh puhleeeze. And as for the Dirty Hands on Bill Clinton, they have never been clean.

17 posted on 07/11/2006 11:50:02 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: SDGOP

McCainiac Hypocrisy
Meet John Weaver, the Big-Money consultant who hates Big Money.

August 16, 2001 3:00 p.m.




According to Roll Call, McCain consultant John Weaver gets $15,000 a month from the PAC. In the course of his selfless guerrilla war on Big Money, Weaver also spent more than $10,000 to stay at the Hotel George on Capitol Hill (he lives in New Hampshire).



If John Weaver really thinks Big Money politics is corrupt, one would think he'd go out of his way to avoid becoming a Big Money Washington consultant. It is on this principle that, say, televangelists don't cavort with strippers, or when they're caught doing it, at least act really embarrassed.

Weaver, however, is not embarrassed. His excuse is that he's the only honest man in Washington. "It's the difference between people who are in Washington to get something done and people who are in Washington who want to be someone," Weaver told Roll Call.



http://tinyurl.com/lqq97


18 posted on 07/11/2006 11:54:35 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: rwrcpa1
If he won the nomination I'm afraid I just wouldn't vote.

Some Republicans at this point seem hell bent on forcing a Rino on the party, McCain, Guliani, etc.. Have they forgotten what happens when they turn their backs on their base ("Read my lips!")?

19 posted on 07/11/2006 11:55:06 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: SDGOP
He announces this out loud because he cannot lift his arms above his shoulders. Weaver, casually dressed and a soft-spoken Texas gentleman, reaches across the top of McCain's head, smoothing it. There is a tenderness in the gesture, as there is whenever Weaver straightens McCain's collar or brushes the lint from his jacket. There is tenderness, but there is also a kind of sadness."

Esquire, the magazine for very tender "men" who are able to get in touch with their inner woman.


20 posted on 07/11/2006 11:55:24 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Fake but Accurate": NY Times)
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To: SDGOP
Can you say, "William Jefferson Keating McCain?"
Keating Five

GROUP

Five United States Senators who accepted money from S&L swindler Charles Keating and twice met with him as a group in April 1987.

Name Occupation Birth Death Known for
Alan Cranston
Politician
19-Jun-1914 31-Dec-2000 US Senator from California 1969-93
Dennis DeConcini
Politician
8-May-1937   US Senator from Arizona 1977-95
John Glenn
Astronaut
18-Jul-1921   First American to orbit earth
John McCain
Politician
29-Aug-1936   US Senator from Arizona 1987-
Don Riegle
Politician
4-Feb-1938   US Senator from Michigan 1976-95


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Is John McCain a Crook?

Chris Suellentrop

The controversial George W. Bush-sponsored poll in South Carolina mentioned John McCain's role in the so-called Keating Five scandal, and McCain says his involvement in the scandal "will probably be on my tombstone." What exactly did McCain do?

In early 1987, at the beginning of his first Senate term, McCain attended two meetings with federal banking regulators to discuss an investigation into Lincoln Savings and Loan, an Irvine, Calif., thrift owned by Arizona developer Charles Keating. Federal auditors were investigating Keating's banking practices, and Keating, fearful that the government would seize his S&L, sought intervention from a number of U.S. senators.

At Keating's behest, four senators--McCain and Democrats Dennis DeConcini of Arizona, Alan Cranston of California, and John Glenn of Ohio--met with Ed Gray, chairman of the Federal Home Loan Bank Board, on April 2. Those four senators and Sen. Don Riegle, D-Mich., attended a second meeting at Keating's behest on April 9 with bank regulators in San Francisco.

Regulators did not seize Lincoln Savings and Loan until two years later. The Lincoln bailout cost taxpayers $2.6 billion, making it the biggest of the S&L scandals. In addition, 17,000 Lincoln investors lost $190 million.

In November 1990, the Senate Ethics Committee launched an investigation into the meetings between the senators and the regulators. McCain, Cranston, DeConcini, Glenn, and Riegle became known as the Keating Five.

(Keating himself was convicted in January 1993 of 73 counts of wire and bankruptcy fraud and served more than four years in prison before his conviction was overturned. Last year, he pleaded guilty to four counts of fraud and was sentenced to time served.)

McCain defended his attendance at the meetings by saying Keating was a constituent and that Keating's development company, American Continental Corporation, was a major Arizona employer. McCain said he wanted to know only whether Keating was being treated fairly and that he had not tried to influence the regulators. At the second meeting, McCain told the regulators, "I wouldn't want any special favors for them," and "I don't want any part of our conversation to be improper."

But Keating was more than a constituent to McCain--he was a longtime friend and associate. McCain met Keating in 1981 at a Navy League dinner in Arizona where McCain was the speaker. Keating was a former naval aviator himself, and the two men became friends. Keating raised money for McCain's two congressional campaigns in 1982 and 1984, and for McCain's 1986 Senate bid. By 1987, McCain campaigns had received $112,000 from Keating, his relatives, and his employees--the most received by any of the Keating Five. (Keating raised a total of $300,000 for the five senators.)

After McCain's election to the House in 1982, he and his family made at least nine trips at Keating's expense, three of which were to Keating's Bahamas retreat. McCain did not disclose the trips (as he was required to under House rules) until the scandal broke in 1989. At that point, he paid Keating $13,433 for the flights.

And in April 1986, one year before the meeting with the regulators, McCain's wife, Cindy, and her father invested $359,100 in a Keating strip mall.

The Senate Ethics Committee probe of the Keating Five began in November 1990, and committee Special Counsel Robert Bennett recommended that McCain and Glenn be dropped from the investigation. They were not. McCain believes Democrats on the committee blocked Bennett's recommendation because he was the lone Keating Five Republican.

In February 1991, the Senate Ethics Committee found McCain and Glenn to be the least blameworthy of the five senators. (McCain and Glenn attended the meetings but did nothing else to influence the regulators.) McCain was guilty of nothing more than "poor judgment," the committee said, and declared his actions were not "improper nor attended with gross negligence." McCain considered the committee's judgment to be "full exoneration," and he contributed $112,000 (the amount raised for him by Keating) to the U.S. Treasury.

21 posted on 07/11/2006 11:56:17 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Surely you jest?

I surely do.

22 posted on 07/11/2006 11:56:37 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: SDGOP
"Was I angry at the time? Yes."

He's always angry; along with his brothers, Dean and Murtha

23 posted on 07/11/2006 11:57:00 AM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: SDGOP

"I would never say this publicly"????

It's an interview in a national magazine, you idiot!


24 posted on 07/11/2006 11:58:06 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: SDGOP

"McCain: "I would never say this publicly, but some of these talk-show hosts -- and I'm not saying they should be taken off the air; they have the right to do what they want to do -- I don't think they're good for America."

Oh really McLame....you want to censor free speech and ideas now...especially when we debate your foolish positions....

Looking foward to the true conservative base dumping this RINO in 08 once and for all. Go retire McLame.


25 posted on 07/11/2006 11:58:43 AM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: AmericanMade1776

There is no "Good Advice" that could possibly come from Howard Stern the Sleeze.


26 posted on 07/11/2006 11:59:39 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

And the marbles in the overhead. Now let's scoop out 12 spoons of sand, to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that ice cream was stolen. I'm using pure cold methodical logic to prove the ice cream was stolen. BTW, I did not cut the tow line.


27 posted on 07/11/2006 12:00:00 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: SDGOP

Well, this will really swing the election one way or the other, probably an overall effect of, say, ten votes more or less. Until GQ and Men's Health weigh in most folks will still be undecided, but personally, I'm waiting for the Maxim interview to make up my mind.


28 posted on 07/11/2006 12:00:20 PM PDT by dagogo redux (I never met a Dem yet who didn't understand a slap in the face, or a slug from a 45)
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To: AmericanMade1776

McCain and his chief political strategist, John Weaver, have spent much of the past year courting key members of the Bush campaign team.


Weaver characterized McCain’s relationship with President Bush as "an evolving one," gradually becoming a "friendly relationship." He said McCain’s relationship with Kerry is "that they are genuine friends."


One McCain volunteer turned to me (the 'reporter') while watching the results and said, “You might as well start calling him President Al Gore,” signaling that Bush’s win came on the strength of the religious right.


29 posted on 07/11/2006 12:00:30 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: SDGOP
"One Of Us."

Analysts say McCain wooing religious right

Senator to address Falwell's college

30 posted on 07/11/2006 12:01:59 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: AmericanMade1776
Is it a requirement of Esquire's that they show liberal politicians in the vantage point of someone about to give the politician a BJ?


31 posted on 07/11/2006 12:03:39 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Isalm is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: tflabo

McCain's campaign manager, John Weaver said:

“The one thing I admire about Grover (Norquist) is how hard he works to make himself relevant. But he’s not relevant. He never has been and never will be. He should go pick on some fourth-graders.”


32 posted on 07/11/2006 12:05:14 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Jeff Chandler

Whew...


33 posted on 07/11/2006 12:05:34 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: SDGOP
'Dear citizens of Arizona: I'd like to run for reelection and represent you in the United States Senate. By the way, I'm still pissed off over South Carolina, so I'm sure you'll understand when I spend a lot of my time getting even.' It's over."

I think the shrinks call this projection.

Regards,

TS

34 posted on 07/11/2006 12:05:42 PM PDT by The Shrew (www.swiftvets.com & www.wintersoldier.com - The Truth Shall Set YOU Free!)
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To: SDGOP

Esquire? Is that still around?


35 posted on 07/11/2006 12:07:28 PM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: kcvl

Me neither.


36 posted on 07/11/2006 12:12:16 PM PDT by rwrcpa1 (April 15. Let's make it just another day.)
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To: The Shrew

Lol, sad but true.


37 posted on 07/11/2006 12:13:11 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Smug b*st*rd


38 posted on 07/11/2006 12:14:52 PM PDT by rwrcpa1 (April 15. Let's make it just another day.)
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To: xzins
That's a pretty good synopsis of what happened. McCain really was the least culpable of the five...he pretty well beat it away from Keating when he discoverd Charlie was trying to get the five Senators to head off the S & L investigation.

I'm in AZ, I really don't like McCain at all, but I don't use Charlie Keating as a bludgeon on him because I don't think he did anything wrong. It was reasonable to know Keating, and be friends at that time. Keating was the primary force behind conservative AZ politics in the mid '80's, so if you were a pol, you had to know him.

IOW, McCain did the right thing by sticking up for a very influential constituent, and did the right thing again when he told Keating to stick it when the going got criminal.

39 posted on 07/11/2006 12:16:06 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty ( 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: SDGOP

McCain's the biggest liberal in the GOP. Hopefully, this will anger more conservatives on the "religious right." He's a danger to our freedom.


40 posted on 07/11/2006 12:16:57 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (NEVER ARGUE WITH IDIOTS!!! THEY*LL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL AND BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE!!!!)
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To: SDGOP

"McCain: "I would never say this publicly, but some of these talk-show hosts -- and I'm not saying they should be taken off the air; they have the right to do what they want to do -- I don't think they're good for America."

Mclame isn't good for America


41 posted on 07/11/2006 12:16:59 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

Sounds like hes still mad at rush for his joke about mccain being so in love with himself that he screams out his own name during sex.


42 posted on 07/11/2006 12:27:59 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: SDGOP
"Tonight, shortly before touchdown, McCain becomes aware that his hair is standing up. "John," he says to [chief political adviser John Weaver, "I think my hair is out of place." He announces this out loud because he cannot lift his arms above his shoulders. Weaver, casually dressed and a soft-spoken Texas gentleman, reaches across the top of McCain's head, smoothing it. There is a tenderness in the gesture, as there is whenever Weaver straightens McCain's collar or brushes the lint from his jacket. There is tenderness, but there is also a kind of sadness."

Oh please, I'm going to hurl. Yes, we are aware of McCain's old war injuries (I assume that's what this is), but what's with the "tenderness and sadness" bit? How pathetique, the absolute pathos of it all!

43 posted on 07/11/2006 12:28:38 PM PDT by standingfirm
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To: D-Chivas

Its become a cross between GQ/Punk/Playboylight.


44 posted on 07/11/2006 12:35:03 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: standingfirm

*barf*


45 posted on 07/11/2006 12:36:06 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: SDGOP

lol he might be


46 posted on 07/11/2006 12:36:18 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: SDGOP
"Everybody in this room has an ancestor who came here for the same reason these people came here."

That's absolutely correct. However, what you can't seem to get thru that thick numb-skull (Kennedy/Kerry influenced) brain of your, McPain, is that they came here "LEGALLY." Got it dummy?

Oh by the way (go ahead and flame people) but if he is the nominee--and the reasons are numerous, beginning with his treatment of all of us Vietnam Vets who "dared" criticize his buddy Kerry as well as his actions with regards to MIA/POW in Senate, among many others--I WILL sit this one out.

47 posted on 07/11/2006 12:46:18 PM PDT by seasoned traditionalist (ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS, BUT ALL TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIMS)
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To: SDGOP
I urge my friends who complain about the influence of the religious Right, get out there and get busy. That's what they do! Now, if we believe in the Republican party of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt, the big-tent party, then we have to get out there and show that. The fact is, some of us have sat idly by while those very active people have basically set the agenda for our party. I get attacked everyday because I'm working with Ted Kennedy. How can I work with Kennedy? Because I want to get something done.

You want to get something Liberal done. It's the only reason anyone hooks up to Kennedy. Besides, when you hook up with someone of as ill repute and mocked by every late night talk show host in America because he's an over the hill alcoholic windbag with a past with a certain young woman that ended up dead, you get what you deserve.

Abe Lincoln was a member of the Big tent party? LOL!!

BTW, I'm soooo glad the bigot continues his attack on people of faith. Worked real well for him in South Carolina.

I would never say this publicly, but some of these talk-show hosts -- and I'm not saying they should be taken off the air; they have the right to do what they want to do -- I don't think they're good for America.

Of course you don't. That's why you've tried to silence them. Rush Limbaugh particularly really sticks it to you, doen't he? Every single time he does a parady of Maverick John McCain...every single time he points out you are a Liberal seeking to destroy Conservatives...how dare he educate primary voters that hate your guts and will be impassioned about the primaries and their goal to humiliate you across the country with a second and final defeat?

I understand the frustrations a lot of Republicans feel.

Yeah, and you throw up your middle finger in respose with support for tax hikes, embryonic research, terrorists rights, Gang of Fourteen, amnesty, CFR.... Practically every damn thing that has gone WRONG these last years and caused frustration has directly been at YOUR hands you egomanical Liberal fraud.

We're not representing their hopes and dreams and aspirations.

We dream, hope, pray and work for conservative policy and you choose Liberalim. yeah, I'd say you aren't representing us.

We worry about Ms. Schiavo before we worry about balancing the budget. We're going to take up this Family Marriage Amendment again. Why? The Republicans will vote one way, and the Democrats will vote another, and everybody knows it! It's pointless. I've never seen Washington as polarized as it is today.

Talk to your Liberal buddies about that who refuse to accept CONSERVATIVE mandates and allow governance accordingly.

BTW, last I checked the Senate was only willing to vote to encourage a review of Schiavo's case, not mandate one, in a night vote. You get no plaudits from me coward.

And it took a matter of less then a week. Whereas your baseball hearings and Al-Quida legislation took..how long? How about your amnesty kick Senator? How much time has that taken away from controlling pork? And if you are so influential, why isn't prok controlled by now anyway? Unless you have NO influence unless promoting liberalism and use this pork platform as a means to hang onto a sketchy claim to conservatism.

Why focus on marriage? Well, for one, Republicans have followed your lead and carved a hole by embracing liberalism for two years. Being an election year in a sign of desperation they tried to butter up people they've ignored and need to get their votes. Oh, supporting marriage is the RIGHT thing to do to preserve our society but with amnesty you've shown you have no regard for that...

Yes, folks, I hate him. But before the "Moderates" (Liberals) get too upset at that blunt acknowledgement, he hates me. He hates Conservatives. He fired the first shot. So don't come after me for defending conservatism from the enemy and working to take this man down. As I will, in whatever election he represents this party in no matter is the consequence is an elected Democrat. he seeks to destroy conservatism from within the party and is far more dangerous then Hillary Clinton because of it.

No, he doesn't have my vote.

48 posted on 07/11/2006 12:47:11 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: Soul Seeker

My friends always give me crap when i say i will never vote for mccain. They insist i must vote for mccain in the general election to keep hillary out otherwise she will destroy the country. With hillary we get gridlock, with mccain he'll just go about and destroy everything we conservatives have worked so hard to obtain over the years.


49 posted on 07/11/2006 12:52:23 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: Bikers4Bush

Just what we've been looking for. Another photo op for media whore, McQueeg...


50 posted on 07/11/2006 12:53:47 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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