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Durbin visits Gitmo, dines with Illinois troops
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | July 11, 2006 | DENNIS CONRAD

Posted on 07/11/2006 12:10:45 PM PDT by Chi-townChief

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Dick Durbin on Monday made his first trip to a prison camp at Guantanamo Naval Base since his remarks last year criticizing U.S. soldiers there for allegedly bad treatment of prisoners from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Durbin, the Senate's second-highest-ranking Democrat, had said in recent weeks that he was eager to visit the U.S.-controlled base in Cuba but wanted assurances from the Pentagon that he would receive a complete tour of the facility.

Virginia Sen. George Allen, who is running for re-election this year and is frequently mentioned as a possible candidate for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008, accompanied Durbin on the trip.

Criticism of Durbin's remarks about Guantanamo last year was widespread, with even Mayor Daley questioning how Durbin could compare U.S. interrogation methods at the camp to the methods of Nazis.

Teary-eyed, Durbin apologized a week later on the Senate floor, saying he never meant disrespect for U.S. soldiers around the world.

The controversy stemmed from Durbin having quoted from an FBI agent's memo describing detainees as being chained to the floor without food or water in extreme temperatures.

''If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings,'' Durbin said then.

A statement released by Durbin's office Monday said Durbin and Allen were scheduled to visit a variety of the detention facilities at Guantanamo, be briefed by commanders and eat lunch with Illinois and Virginia soldiers. Durbin spokesman Joe Shoemaker said the trip was expected to keep the senators busy all day.

Due to security concerns, more details were not to be released until after the senators returned to Washington.

Durbin, as a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, is expected to participate in a hearing today focusing on military commissions such as those used to send detainees from Iraq and Afghanistan to Guantanamo Bay.

The Supreme Court last month ruled that President Bush's plan to try detainees captured in the war on terror through secret military tribunals violates U.S. and international law.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; durbin; gitmo; gwot; iran; iraq; lefty; liberals; waronterror; wot
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Just goes to show how far this boy will go for a free lunch (on the taxpayers' dime, of course.)
1 posted on 07/11/2006 12:10:49 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

Say what you will about Durbin, but it's refreshing to see a Senator traveling so far to visit his constituents and supporters.


2 posted on 07/11/2006 12:12:21 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake

You're kidding right?


3 posted on 07/11/2006 12:15:36 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: wideawake
The soldiers had better keep a tape recorder running when they talk to Turbin Dick Durbin. Or is it Osama Bin Durban. Maybe it is Barack bin Durbin.

Illinois names can be so fun.

4 posted on 07/11/2006 12:15:54 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Labs Rules! Brilliant!)
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To: Chi-townChief

"No thanks. I don't have much of an appetite."

5 posted on 07/11/2006 12:16:53 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Last week my son left for Iraq out of downtown Chicago. Dickhead Durbin was at a press conference to help stop a beetle from harming Illinois' trees that day instead of at the going away ceremony for the soldiers!!!!

The man is less than scum.


6 posted on 07/11/2006 12:17:16 PM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: wideawake

Perhaps Senator Turban will stay and become a mullah..


7 posted on 07/11/2006 12:17:27 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Chi-townChief

Are they gonna keep him at Gitmo? Huh? Huh?


8 posted on 07/11/2006 12:18:13 PM PDT by mafree
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To: Chi-townChief
Hopefully they'll lock him up with his supporters.
10 posted on 07/11/2006 12:19:48 PM PDT by b4its2late (Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.)
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To: wideawake
Say what you will about Durbin, but it's refreshing to see a Senator traveling so far to visit his constituents and supporters.

Riiight. Ten to one, he'll be on TV by the end of the week bitching about the "appalling detainee conditions" he observed. Of course, he'll cry and apologize the following week, so that'll square things.

11 posted on 07/11/2006 12:19:51 PM PDT by Mordacious
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To: wideawake

I get it.


12 posted on 07/11/2006 12:20:33 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Chi-townChief
...describing what Americans (Soldiers) had (ALLEGEDLY) done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others --
Turban Durbin, June 2005.

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13 posted on 07/11/2006 12:21:01 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Senator Durbin is a meathead AND a pussy.

He's gets criticized for comparing our guys to Nazis, then he goes out on the Senate floor and does the mea culpa act with tears.

Pussy.


14 posted on 07/11/2006 12:21:17 PM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: ozzymandus

Thanks.


15 posted on 07/11/2006 12:21:29 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: MikeA

LOL!

You just have to quit holding back and really let your feelings show. ;)


16 posted on 07/11/2006 12:21:50 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: conservativebabe

No - I really consider Durbin's natural constituents to be the individuals currently in custody in Guantanamo.


17 posted on 07/11/2006 12:22:20 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake
to visit his constituents and supporters.

Unless you're talking about the Al-Qaeda inmates, I do hope you're joking.
18 posted on 07/11/2006 12:22:26 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: Mobile Vulgus
The man is less than scum.

Yes he is!!!

Please thank your son for his service to our country! Thank you for raising such a man as this. My prayers are with you all!

19 posted on 07/11/2006 12:23:09 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Chi-townChief
Maybe we can ask him or George Allen to confirm if Castro is really dead.
20 posted on 07/11/2006 12:24:38 PM PDT by CT-Freeper (Said the perpetually dejected Mets fan.)
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To: Chi-townChief
Teary-eyed, Durbin apologized a week later on the Senate floor, saying he never meant disrespect for U.S. soldiers around the world.

heh! Crocodile tears! This guy is one of the phoniest POS in the Senate. How ironic that his first name matches what he is.

21 posted on 07/11/2006 12:26:43 PM PDT by SMM48
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To: Chi-townChief

Everytime I read or hear something about "Dick Durbin", I think of the Freeper phrase used for Dick Gephardt:

"Dick Durbin before he dicks you!"


22 posted on 07/11/2006 12:27:57 PM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Chi-townChief

Last week I received a reply from my Senator (Dubrin) to an email I sent him some time ago. I was so insensed by his reply that I immediately emailed him in return, calling him a liar. His reply with my response follows:

Senator Durbin:

To quote you from your email below:

"I agree that we must stand behind our men and women in uniform. These
dedicated individuals have performed superbly in the war against terrorism
and the invasion of Iraq, serving their country with honor and
distinction. In Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere they continue to face
danger on a daily basis while enduring separation from their families for
extended periods of time. These sacrifices are made not only by our
active duty forces but Reservists and National Guard members as well."

You, sir, are a liar. I now quote you from statements you made on the floor of the U. S. Senate June 14, 2005 during debate on an energy bill:

"If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime-Pol Pot or others-that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners."

Sir! Comparing our military to Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, Pol Pot, or any other egregious regime or dictator is NOT supporting our troops. And for your information, sir, cases of torture at Gitmo, or elsewhere, have never been proven.

You, sir, are a fraud and a sham, and as already stated, a liar. You are not un-American, but anti-American, and a disgrace to the State of Illinois and the United States of America. I have now said my piece about you. Do NOT respond to this email with another email. If you wish to respond do so by the U. S. Mails. I cannot continue to afford having my computer cleaned after receiving your filth.

James F. Busse
An American Patriot (something you will never understand, let alone be)


-----Original Message-----
From: Correspondence_Reply@durbin.senate.gov [mailto:Correspondence_Reply@durbin.senate.gov]
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:07 AM
To: jbusse1@verizon.net
Subject: Message From Senator Durbin



July 6, 2006



Mr. James Busse



Dear Mr. Busse:

Thank you for your message about my criticism of the Bush Administration's
policies and the importance of supporting those serving in our nation's
armed forces.

I agree that we must stand behind our men and women in uniform. These
dedicated individuals have performed superbly in the war against terrorism
and the invasion of Iraq, serving their country with honor and
distinction. In Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere they continue to face
danger on a daily basis while enduring separation from their families for
extended periods of time. These sacrifices are made not only by our
active duty forces but Reservists and National Guard members as well.

I have visited our soldiers recovering at Walter Reed Hospital, and I have
been humbled by their sacrifices and dedication to our nation. They are
among the finest people anyone could ever hope to meet. My deepest
sympathies go out to the families and loved ones of those who have lost
their lives in the service our country, as well as to the many soldiers
who have suffered life changing injuries.

When the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq began in March 2003, I worked with a
number of my colleagues to increase combat pay for our troops, as well as
the Family Separation Allowance for servicemembers on extended deployments
away from their families. I have also pressed the Defense Department to
remedy the lack of vital equipment -- such as protective body armor and
armor-plated Humvees -- for our soldiers in Iraq as quickly as possible.


I understand that you disagree with many of the positions I and other
Members of Congress have taken on different issues facing our nation.
When I have agreed with President Bush's policies I have not hesitated to
say so, just as I have expressed my disagreement on the many occasions
when my views have differed from those of the President. Honest
disagreement is an important part of our democratic form of government.
Our nation has a long history of outspoken disagreements among our
political leaders, even during wartime. For instance, then-Congressman
Abraham Lincoln was strongly critical of President James Polk for leading
the U.S. into the Mexican-American War, even introducing legislation
before the war ended to question Polk's claim that Mexico had initiated
the conflict.

I assure you that I am committed to protecting U.S. national security
interests at home and abroad, as are all of my colleagues in Congress,
regardless of party. Our democracy has proven that it is strong enough to
thrive even while thoughtful people debate issues affecting our national
security, and that even disagreement can be a sign of commitment to our
nation and the men and women who defend it.

Thanks again for your message.


Sincerely,
Richard J. Durbin
United States Senator

RJD/rp

I despise this man and all he stands for!


23 posted on 07/11/2006 12:28:22 PM PDT by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" Anonymous)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

I know, I'm such a shrinking violet.


24 posted on 07/11/2006 12:29:58 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker of the House)
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To: wideawake

I got it, too..


25 posted on 07/11/2006 12:31:23 PM PDT by cardinal4 (John Kerry-National Embarrassment)
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To: MikeA
"I know, I'm such a shrinking violet.

Yeah, me too!

26 posted on 07/11/2006 12:31:42 PM PDT by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" Anonymous)
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To: wideawake
No - I really consider Durbin's natural constituents to be the individuals currently in custody in Guantanamo.

And in Chicago's welfare lines. (oh that's right, they get cash cards now. No lines)
27 posted on 07/11/2006 12:32:04 PM PDT by yobid (See the little dear. Does the dear have a little doe? Sointy, two bucks, nyuck nyuck)
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To: Chi-townChief

Can they keep him down there?


28 posted on 07/11/2006 12:32:40 PM PDT by Volunteer (Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

DICK was a no show at my son's unit going away ceremony on the 25th also.....


29 posted on 07/11/2006 12:32:51 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: Polyxene

In Chicago, we used that for Daley the First.


30 posted on 07/11/2006 12:33:02 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: wideawake
it's refreshing to see a Senator traveling so far to visit his constituents and supporters

The same ones he likened to Hitler & Pol Pot?

31 posted on 07/11/2006 12:34:04 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: wideawake

Unless you hit somebody in the face with a pie, there's always going to be somebody who doesn't get the joke.


32 posted on 07/11/2006 12:34:10 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Turban Durbin came out of hiding eh? This political hack and pawn of the corrupt Daley machine is a typical product of the Illinois and non-denominational political system.


33 posted on 07/11/2006 12:35:08 PM PDT by hgro
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To: dead

Apparently. Wow.


34 posted on 07/11/2006 12:35:28 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: dead
there's always going to be somebody who doesn't get the joke

That would be me. :-)

35 posted on 07/11/2006 12:35:29 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Chi-townChief
Virginia Sen. George Allen, who is running for re-election this year and is frequently mentioned as a possible candidate for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008, accompanied Durbin on the trip.

FWIW, George Allen went to Gitmo. Durbin was the one who tagged along.

36 posted on 07/11/2006 12:35:42 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Chi-townChief

The name just seems to fit these guys' personalities!


37 posted on 07/11/2006 12:36:06 PM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Thebaddog
Did you say Baraaaaaaaaaaaack!?

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38 posted on 07/11/2006 12:39:13 PM PDT by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: Chi-townChief
Durbin,

"You know you can hardly get around in Gitmo without a slight islamic accent"
39 posted on 07/11/2006 12:39:37 PM PDT by xpertskir
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To: Polyxene
Hey Durbin:


40 posted on 07/11/2006 12:41:36 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: WideGlide

Ewwwww. Let's go again, dude!


41 posted on 07/11/2006 12:44:08 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Labs Rules! Brilliant!)
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To: conservativebabe
"You're kidding right?"

I don't think wideawake is kidding at all.

42 posted on 07/11/2006 12:46:05 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: bcsco

Too bad spitting on your Senator is NOW 'assault', right?


43 posted on 07/11/2006 12:47:49 PM PDT by litehaus
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To: dead

LOL! Hope he was directing that to Dan Rather!!


44 posted on 07/11/2006 12:48:41 PM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: conservativebabe

Nah, He heard the Lamb and Cous Cous was being served. Thought he'd try it out. Hoep they let him eat with the inmates.


45 posted on 07/11/2006 12:56:26 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: conservativebabe; wideawake

You think that Durbin's constituents are something besides illiterate, unwashed America-hating punks? I'm with wideawake. Its a rare politician who travels far to meet with his constituents to verify their well-being.


46 posted on 07/11/2006 12:58:01 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: litehaus
"Too bad spitting on your Senator is NOW 'assault', right?"

I have no intention of getting close enough to this dickhead to spit on him or do anything else. He's a vile anti-American sleaze-bag to me and not worth my time or effort to be around.

Life's too short to spend it associating with such scum.

47 posted on 07/11/2006 1:00:29 PM PDT by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" Anonymous)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Prayers for your son, and a big thank you for his service.


48 posted on 07/11/2006 1:20:14 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: RexBeach

I call him traitor..


49 posted on 07/11/2006 2:02:38 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: wideawake

Sorry, I didn't get it the first time.

Now that I do, that's pretty darn funny... and correct.


50 posted on 07/11/2006 2:05:05 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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