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Bush Administration Fast-Tracks Formation of North American Union
Human Events Online ^ | July 11, 2006 | Jerome R Corsi

Posted on 07/11/2006 6:50:36 PM PDT by Trupolitik

With virtually no mention in the mainstream media, Commerce Secretary Carlos M. Gutierrez convened on June 15, the first meeting of the North American Competitiveness Council (NACC), an apparently extra-constitutional advisory group organized by the Department of Commerce (DOC) under the auspices of the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP).

A March 31 press release on the White House website, under the title “Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America: Progress,” announced the formation of the NACC. The press release noted that the NACC would meet annually “with security and prosperity Ministers and will engage with senior government officials on an ongoing basis.” The “SPP Ministers” were not identified.

Moreover, the term “Ministers” was an unusual reference to the U.S. government, especially when the founding fathers had taken such pains to rid the U.S. of all terminology that could be reminiscent of monarchical systems such as the British royalty against whom the Revolutionary War was aimed. Evidently, the reference was to Gutierrez, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, the three cabinet officers to whom the extensive SPP working groups organized in DOC are now reporting, as well as their cabinet level counterparts in Mexico and Canada.

The White House press release references no U.S. law or treaty under which the NACC was organized. Yet the press release notes that:

We are convinced that regulatory cooperation advances the productivity and competitiveness of our nations and helps to protect our health, safety and environment. For instance, cooperation on food safety will protect the public while at the same time facilitate the flow of goods. We affirm our commitment to strengthen regulatory cooperation in this and other key sectors and to have our central regulatory agencies complete a trilateral regulatory cooperation framework by 2007.

According to a notice on Trade.gov, a website maintained by the International Trade Administration of the DOC, the NACC membership consists of 10 “high-level business leaders” from Mexico, Canada, and the United States. An April 2006 report in the Mexican media quoted Angel Villalobos, undersecretary of International Trade Negotiations for Mexico’s Secretariat of Economy, as saying that nothing like NACC had ever before been created in NAFTA. Mr. Villalobos described NACC as “an umbrella organization within the SPP,” claiming further that SPP was created in 2005 to operate parallel to NAFTA.

A DOC press release on the day of the first NACC meeting seems to confirm that the “SPP Ministers” are the various cabinet level secretaries in the three countries to whom the SPP working groups report. The press release also references the March 23, 2005, Waco, Tex., meeting as the origin of SPP:

On March 23, 2005, leaders of North America launched the SPP. This initiative is meant to reduce trade barriers and facilitate economic growth, while improving the security and competitiveness of the continent. The leaders of North America confirmed their commitment to SPP when they met on March 31, 2006 in Cancun, Mexico.

The press release quotes Gutierrez as affirming the importance of NACC within SPP:

“Today is a continuation of President Bush’s strong commitment to our North American partners to focus on North America’s security and prosperity. The private sector is the driving force behind innovation and growth, and the private sector’s involvement in the SPP is key to enhancing North America’s competitive position in global markets.”

The Council of the Americas provided the more detail regarding the June 15, 2006 meeting of the NACC than was found on U.S. government websites. A NACC membership list found on the Council of the Americas’ website lists the U.S. members as coming form the following corporations (listed in alphabetic order): Campbell Soup Company, Chevron, Ford, FedEx, General Electric, General Motors, Kansas City Southern Industries, Lockheed Martin Corporation; Merck; Mittal Steel USA; New York Life; United Parcel Service; Wal-Mart; and Whirlpool.

A separate document on the Council of the Americas website presents a summarized transcript which claims that U.S. representatives in the June 15 meeting explained the composition of the U.S. delegation as follows:

“The U.S. section of the NACC has organized itself through a Secretariat -- composed of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Council of the Americas -- to maximize its efficiency and better communicate with its members.” Secretary Gutierrez was also paraphrased as stating, “The purpose of this meeting was to institutionalize the North American Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) and the NACC, so that the work will continue through changes in administrations.”

The Council of the Americas is a private organization with offices in New York and Washington, D.C. According to the organization’s own description, the group’s members “include some of the largest blue chip corporations domiciled in the United States, who, collectively, represent the vast bulk of U.S. investment in and trade with the rest of the Americas.” The Mexican -- U.S. Business Committee (MEXUS), organized as a standing committee of the Council of the Americas, is “the oldest bi-national private sector business organization with a focus on economic, commercial, and political relations in North America.”

A MEXUS document on the Council of the Americas’ website self-credits MEXUS with having played “a critical role in the conceptual work that led to NAFTA,” plus active lobbying in that “its [MEXUS’s] members wore out significant shoe leather on Capital Hill, ultimately leading to successful passage.”

The Council of Canadians, a Canadian advocacy group that opposes NAFTA and SPP, charged that nine of the 10 appointees of the Canadian NACC delegation was drawn from the Canadian Council of Chief Executives. Maude Barlow, the National Chairperson for the Council of Canadians objected, stating, “This latest development clearly puts business leaders in the driver’s seat and gives them the green light to press forward for a North American model for business security and prosperity.” Ms. Barlow additionally questioned, “How truly accountable is the Harper government to the Canadian people when it gives preferential treatment to the big-business community in the design of its policies?”

Even a quick glance at the “North American Security and Prosperity” page of the Canadian Council of Chief Executives makes clear how ardently the organization champions SPP. The Canadian Council of Chief Executives was listed alongside the Mexican Council on Foreign Relations (COMEXI, Consejo Mexicano de Asuntos Internationales) and the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) itself as being the sponsors for a March 2005 CFR-published task force report titled “Creating a North American Community -- Chairman’s Statement,” pubpublished before the March 23, 2005 trilateral proclamation of SPP in Waco, Texas. The three groups are also attributed with sponsoring the May 2005 CFR publication, “Building a North American Community.”

The creation of the NACC is following the course prescribed by Robert A. Pastor, the American University professor who is was co-chair of the CFR task force that produced the two CFR publications described in the above paragraph. At a press conference presenting the CFR report, “Building a North American Community,” Robert Pastor said:

The North American summit that occurred in Texas on March 23rd is a very important statement. But if it’s to be more than a photo opportunity, we felt that a second institution was essential, and that would be a North American advisory council made up of eminent individuals, appointed for terms that are longer than those of the governments, and staggered over time. This council would propose ideas for dealing with North American challenges, whether they be regulatory or transportation or infrastructure or education, and put forth options to the three leaders to consider ways to adopt a North American approach.

Robert Pastor described this council as playing an active policy role in the formation of his hoped-for North American Community.

And hopefully, the three leaders would turn to this North American council and say, “Look we’re getting wonderful advice on what we should do about North America as a whole. Why don’t you prepare a plan for us on education, on agriculture, on the environment, and we would consider that even as we consider the advice of our government.”

Dr. Pastor’s comments seem to prefigure the June 15, 2006 first meeting of the NACC, even down to describing the membership of his “advisory council” as consisting of ten members from each of the trilateral states. If Dr. Pastor’s roadmap continues to be predictive, we recommend a serious look at his book, "Toward a North American Community," in which he argues for the creation of a European Union-style fully institutionalized North American Union, constituting a super-regional government complete with a court, a parliament, a chief executive, and a new currency described as the “Amero.”

The Council of the Americas website lists five top priorities identified for the U.S. Section of the American Business: Energy Integration; Supply Chain Management/Trade Facilitation/ Customs Reform; Regulatory/ Standards issues -- Harmonization and Sharing of Best Practices; Counterfeiting and Piracy -- “Fake Free North America”; and Private Sector Involvement in Border Security and Infrastructure Projects.

A White House website shows photographs of President Bush, Mexico President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper at their March 31 joint news conference in Cancun, Mexico, shaking hands in front of a backdrop proclaiming “Cancun 2006. Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America.” Increasingly, the three leaders are referring to the SPP as if the Waco, Texas press release announcement of March 23, 2005 constitutes an official new treaty-like trilateral status, advancing the trilateral partnership forward into a more institutional phase that can be termed at a minimum “NAFTA-Plus.”

At the Cancun press conference, Prime Minister Harper confirmed that the decision had been reached to advance SPP by forming NACC:

During my meetings with Presidents Bush and Fox, we reviewed the progress of our Security and Prosperity Partnership, which provides a framework to advance the common interests in the areas of security, prosperity, and quality of life.

We committed to further engage the private sector. We’ve agreed to set up a North American Competitiveness Council, made up of business leaders from all three countries, to advise us on ways to improve the competitiveness of our economies. They will meet with our ministers, identify priorities, and make sure we follow up and implement them.

In his comments at the Cancun press conference, President Bush also affirmed the presence of unnamed business leaders who had attended the trilateral summit meeting. President Bush commented, “I want to thank the CEOs and the business leaders from the three countries who are here.”

The DOC's SPP website announcing the formation of NACC provides NO information as to the membership requirements, the selection process, or the terms of the members appointed to the NACC. Nor is there any discussion of who pays for the travel expenses and the time of the participants. We find no charter published for the NACC, or any other specific delineation of roles and responsibilities, or reporting authority (except for a mention of the “SPP Ministers”). Equally lacking is a description of the enabling legislation or treaty under which the NACC operates.

According to an attendance list produced by the Council of the Americas, the June 15, 2006 meeting of the NACC was attended by Geri Word, deputy director of Office of NAFTA and Inter-American Affairs in the U.S. Department of Commerce; Dan Fisk, senior director for Western Hemisphere Affairs at the National Security Council; Al Martinez-Fonts, director of the Office of the Private Sector in the U.S. Department of Homeland Security; Elizabeth “Betsy” Whitaker, deputy assistant secretary of Western Hemisphere Affairs at the U.S. Department of State; and Christopher Moore, deputy assistant secretary in the Bureau of Economic and Business Affairs at the U.S. Department of State.


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many of you may want to see a "smoking gun". But in the incremental construction of the creation of the Eu there was no such "smoking gun", instead there was a slow creation of European bureaucracy that assumed more and more control of the National governments authority and duties. This process took decades from the creation of the European Economic Community (EEC). Just as they moved from a free trade agreement to a proposed EU constitution, so are we moving from NAFTA...to what? We can only surminse given the lack of transparency of the SPP.

Keep this issue on you radar.

1 posted on 07/11/2006 6:50:40 PM PDT by Trupolitik
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To: Trupolitik

It is the UN doing this. The UN is requiring all nations to form regional blocs that will eventually be absorbed into a world government.


2 posted on 07/11/2006 6:55:10 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Trupolitik
Just as they moved from a free trade agreement to a proposed EU constitution, so are we moving from NAFTA...to what? We can only surminse given the lack of transparency of the SPP.

It seems that Corsi knows what they're doing, and knows about every move that everybody makes who has anything to do with the NAU.

How is that not transparent? And how does "cooperation" in trade amount to creation of some extra-constitutional "union."

You realize, of course, that each one of these stories is a chapter of Corsi's upcoming book, and he has to create a breathless account of what amounts to boring trade talks in order to keep you interested, don't you?

3 posted on 07/11/2006 6:56:16 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Trupolitik

I am hearing that this whole union will be officially announced on February 31st 2007, did anyone else hear about that? (While I am writing this, I have my eyes wide open and have a very angry and crazy look on my face)


4 posted on 07/11/2006 6:57:16 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Trupolitik

The Activism sidebar is reserved for Activism, protests, news and business of Free Republic Chapters.

Not this.

Please read the following for FR's posting rules for further guidelines.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1611173/posts

Thanks,


5 posted on 07/11/2006 6:59:22 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Trupolitik

When are the black helicopters coming?

I am protected. I have foil on my head.


6 posted on 07/11/2006 6:59:57 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Trupolitik
Will the American people rise up in revolution?

I never thought I would live to see the intentional subversion of the United States, especially by a sitting US president.

When Bill Clinton was selling US missle and Independently Targeted Re-entry technology to the Chinese gov't for campaign contributions there were people in Free Republic calling for Clinton's head.

Is it all right for President Bush to betray his fellow countymen because he is a Republican?

7 posted on 07/11/2006 7:02:58 PM PDT by North Coast Conservative (Never Take a Gun to a Gunfight That Is Less Than .40 Cal ..... VIVA LA MIGRA!!!!)
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To: Trupolitik

So how do we get represented in this process (serious question?)

If you're like me and you think this is going to happen anyway, at least can't we design the one we want, instead of an agreement that is foisted on us with no representation?


8 posted on 07/11/2006 7:03:49 PM PDT by mhx
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To: sinkspur

bttt


9 posted on 07/11/2006 7:04:25 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Reaganez
I just took the Reynolds aluminum foil roll from the kitchen cabinet and I am going to make a lot of tin foil hats all night long while I am keeping an eye on the black helicopters that will show up anytime now.
10 posted on 07/11/2006 7:04:54 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Trupolitik

see


11 posted on 07/11/2006 7:08:32 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: jveritas
You FOOL! Didn't you read about the new Mexican Tinfoil Incremental Temperature-Raising Ray being constructed in the dusty workpits of Meheco? They aim it at those tinfoil hats and slowly cook the brains being "protected" beneath. Takes 10-20 years, but only a fool goes with the old fashioned tinfoil route, when the safer choice is--

Oh, gotta run, X-Files is on...

12 posted on 07/11/2006 7:19:45 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: jveritas

These threads give me a headache although after going 10 rounds with a troll on another forum, I needed a good laugh.


13 posted on 07/11/2006 7:23:02 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: All

President Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!


14 posted on 07/11/2006 7:26:15 PM PDT by zook ("We all knew someone in primary school who had a really powerful magnet")
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To: Darkwolf377

Thank you for letting me know :)


15 posted on 07/11/2006 7:28:41 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: COEXERJ145

me too... I needed a good laugh..


16 posted on 07/11/2006 7:30:32 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: zook
President Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!

LOL!!!

17 posted on 07/11/2006 7:30:54 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: jveritas

Shhh, I told you nothing...by the way, the blue eagle winks at the happy frog...


18 posted on 07/11/2006 7:34:29 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: North Coast Conservative
North Coast Conservative: The Leader of the New Revolution.

Majestic music playing in the background and shot of you standing on a rock, the sun setting, and wind blowing your hair. Man, I am getting goose bumps thinking about your greatness in such a setting (sarcasm beyond belief).

19 posted on 07/11/2006 7:34:30 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: COEXERJ145

I just came for the keywords. I love the keywords.


20 posted on 07/11/2006 7:35:09 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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To: Trupolitik

Good information on this treason


21 posted on 07/11/2006 7:35:28 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok.)
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To: zook
President Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!

ROFLMAO. Official notice: I'm stealing that for a new tag line!

22 posted on 07/11/2006 7:35:29 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

LOL!!!


23 posted on 07/11/2006 7:36:44 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The keywords get better all the time.
24 posted on 07/11/2006 7:37:10 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: jveritas
While I am writing this, I have my eyes wide open and have a very angry and crazy look on my face

Don't forget the diabolical laughter and the twirling of the handlebar mustache.

25 posted on 07/11/2006 7:37:12 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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To: Trupolitik
yeah yeah yeah yeah


But if it means cheaper Burritos, I'm all for it.

And yes I still have jobs available for anyone who wants to help build this new "North American Union". Of course this job is only theoretical, as the entire stupid episode is only theoretical to sell more books from Mr. Corsi.
26 posted on 07/11/2006 7:37:58 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: zook
President Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!

That's why he is secretly working toward the North American Union which will then be followed by a One World Government.

Then there won't be any nations on our borders. LOL!

27 posted on 07/11/2006 7:38:20 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

LOL... I won't..


28 posted on 07/11/2006 7:39:55 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: sinkspur

It seems that Corsi knows what they're doing, and knows about every move that everybody makes who has anything to do with the NAU.

How is that not transparent? And how does "cooperation" in trade amount to creation of some extra-constitutional "union."

You realize, of course, that each one of these stories is a chapter of Corsi's upcoming book, and he has to create a breathless account of what amounts to boring trade talks in order to keep you interested, don't you?
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sounds like you have a personal beef with corsi. for myself, I never heard of the guy until you posted the link to him. Rather I judge his facts and the interpretation he throws on them. the interpretation of the facts made by corsi are quite understandable and reasonable in light of the decades long EU integration of europe with the approval of the USA.



29 posted on 07/11/2006 7:39:57 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Thunder90

Actually it was President Bush or Condi Rice that said they want to move toward regionalization of international diplomacy instead of the UN general assembly and the UN Sec Council.

Also, atleast in my mind, the UN is full of Socialist Globalists that seek a static state complete with the redistribution of wealth through taxation etc...

However, it appears more and more President Bush is more of a Corporate Globalist which seeks to unify regions and the world through Corporate and Trade structures.

Of course I could be wrong...


30 posted on 07/11/2006 7:47:02 PM PDT by Trupolitik
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
These are some of the good ones for this thread.

BUILDABUNKER; CUESPOOKYMUSIC; FREEMASONRY; ITSALLAPLOT; LEWCROCKWELL; LIBERTYPOST; MASONS; MORETHORZINEPLEASE; NWOUNDERMYBED; PALEOPANTSIES; PARTNERSHIP; QUEEG; RFID; STARTAMILITA

31 posted on 07/11/2006 7:51:54 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: jveritas
Sarcasm rather than discussion. Seems like the tactics of ANSWER or perhaps the Democratic Underground.

What will you do if this comes true, as fantastic as it seems? Meekly fall into line, blindly accepting the line out of Washington?

I couldn't do that.

32 posted on 07/11/2006 7:55:16 PM PDT by North Coast Conservative (Never Take a Gun to a Gunfight That Is Less Than .40 Cal ..... VIVA LA MIGRA!!!!)
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To: COEXERJ145

CueSpookyMusic would make a great rock band name, IMO.


33 posted on 07/11/2006 7:57:18 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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To: North Coast Conservative
I do not engage in a serious discussion with delusional people. What if I tell you that Aliens from outer space are going to invade us and the government know about this, will you engage with me in a serious discussion? This article is not different from that.
34 posted on 07/11/2006 7:59:42 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

I do not engage in a serious discussion with delusional people. What if I tell you that Aliens from outer space are going to invade us and the government know about this, will you engage with me in a serious discussion? This article is not different from that.
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what if I told you that the EU went through a decades long integration that is still ongoing.

Anyone familiar with history knows that the really big stuff doesn't happen in a day. The Brits banned slavery in their empire in 1832 after a 40 year campaign by William Wilberforce. The US civil war of the 1860's had been building for decades. Nor did it necessarily have to go that way but it did and the USA was dramatically reshaped.

In light of the facts and history the interpretaion of events as set down above is the far more reasonable analogy than the alien model.


35 posted on 07/11/2006 8:21:15 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: COEXERJ145
These are some of the good ones for this thread. BUILDABUNKER; CUESPOOKYMUSIC; FREEMASONRY; ....... Is that what you do instead of actually reading the public documents?
36 posted on 07/11/2006 8:26:39 PM PDT by Trupolitik
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To: Trupolitik
Once you've read enough of Corsi's crap it all sounds the same. He is publishing nothing but tin foil hat conspiracy theories that he has created by taking a few minor details and twisting them around so as to create a web of intrigue.

Of course those of us who do not look under our bed every night for a NWO operative can see Corsi for what he really is. A lunatic.

37 posted on 07/11/2006 8:31:53 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: Trupolitik
Is that what you do instead of actually reading the public documents?

There have been no less than a half-dozen Corsi NAU articles posted on FR within the past month, most of them have over 500+ replies on them. The law of diminishing returns are setting in. What does Corsi have to add that wasn't already discussed in the previous threads?

38 posted on 07/11/2006 8:35:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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To: North Coast Conservative
Sarcasm rather than discussion.

What is there to discuss? An excuse of a thread for one side to call the other Bushbots, and the other side call that side a bunch of Buchananites? When does it end?

39 posted on 07/11/2006 8:38:51 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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To: COEXERJ145
THIS is why non-tin-foil-hatters are starting to go WTF?!?

6/15/06 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT: Kansas City: The Corridor to the Future (NAFTA superhighway BS)

6/20/06 Mexican customs to be stationed in Kansas City

7/5/06 Kansas City customs port considered Mexican soil? [UNFREAKIN' REAL ALERT] or Kansas City Port Considered Sovereign Mexico Territory (duplicate post)

40 posted on 07/11/2006 8:53:39 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Doesn't a customs port in the middle of the US constitute a danger to US citizens since there would apparently be (in theory) no cargo inspections (at the soonest)until it reaches KC.

How is this any different than allowing international flyovers without controls?

(just asking; no, really)

41 posted on 07/11/2006 8:58:16 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: Trupolitik

And people will call you insane when you talk about absolute power in the hands of a few people.


42 posted on 07/11/2006 9:16:31 PM PDT by John Lenin (If you are looking for a mind numb robot, I'm not it)
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To: jveritas
I am hearing that this whole union will be officially announced on February 31st 2007, did anyone else hear about that? (While I am writing this, I have my eyes wide open and have a very angry and crazy look on my face)

I did not.

43 posted on 07/11/2006 9:24:27 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: Optimist
Becuase many of them are Open borders fanatics who don't actually care for American sovereignty.
Multi-national Corporations uber alles.
44 posted on 07/11/2006 9:25:52 PM PDT by rmlew (I'm a Goldwater Republican... Don Goldwater 2006!)
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To: Trupolitik

Some people ought to be impeached for betraying their country for this.

One particularly alarming aspect of this is that it seems to have all happened without Congress knowing about it. That means that the President is issuing Executive Edicts to circumvent Congress (i.e. those so called Executive orders which are used in recent years more like legislative decrees rather than orders issued to enforce existing laws).

By the way it took 50 years for the EU to go from Economic Community to proposing a Constiution. The same could be true for the US. They wait until you or the next generation lets down their guard and then hit you with a new Constitution.


45 posted on 07/11/2006 10:04:19 PM PDT by old republic
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To: Optimist
Thank you for posting this.....as I've been reading down thru the posts I've been rather amazed and frankly puzzled by the attitude of most.....they seem to think this Corsi, whoever he is, has made all this up out of thin air.

It makes me seriously wonder at just what it will take for Americans to wake up and ask WHEN DO WE GET TO VOTE ON THIS CRAP THAT'S FOREVER GOING TO CHANGE OUR NATION? I don't find anything about this funny, humorous, something to be made light of. Pres. Bush, who I voted for twice and agreed with more often than not, seems hell bent to tear down our country, open the borders,drag us into the One World Order, just as quickly as he can, all with a lota help from some very powerful people. Doesn't it bother anyone besides me that the stuff that's been going on and continue to take place is the stuff that will change our country forever?

I'm 73 years old with children, grandchildren and 3 little great grands and I'm more than a little distressed at the country they're going to be left with. Shame on the bunch in Washington, Dims and Repubs....a bunch of power grabbing. greedy opportunists.
46 posted on 07/11/2006 10:18:22 PM PDT by Molly T.
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To: Trupolitik

Thank You for the post, some of us do appriciate it. I see a pattern coming from multiple sources, this bears watching.


47 posted on 07/11/2006 10:36:29 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: zook
President Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!

Like Canada and Mexico?

48 posted on 07/12/2006 12:48:54 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: old republic
Don't fall for that line. If this is true, congress has had their clumsy ham fists in it from the beginning. Contrary to what our reps say, they know everything that is going on and no one lied to them(Iraq). They just get to bump the blame up the ladder.
49 posted on 07/12/2006 6:01:18 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: sinkspur

My day is complete when I can get an LOL from you, Sink!


50 posted on 07/12/2006 6:24:15 AM PDT by zook ("We all knew someone in primary school who had a really powerful magnet")
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