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Poland wins name change for Auschwitz death camp
Scotsman ^ | Wed 12 Jul 2006

Posted on 07/12/2006 1:48:31 PM PDT by lizol

Poland wins name change for Auschwitz death camp

WARSAW (Reuters) - The United Nations has agreed to rename Auschwitz concentration camp to stress that Nazi Germans, not Poles, were responsible for the world's most notorious death camp, Poland's Culture Ministry said on Wednesday.

"Auschwitz Concentration Camp", a U.N. heritage site, will be renamed "the Former Nazi German Concentration Camp of Auschwitz", the ministry of culture said in a statement.

Poland asked the U.N. in April to rename Auschwitz, where 1.5 people, mostly Jews, died in World War Two.

Warsaw objects to references to "Polish gas chambers" at the "Polish concentration camp" in foreign media. Nearly 3 million non-Jewish Poles died at Nazi hands, and Poles see themselves as victims of the war.

Because of this image, the role of Poles in the deaths of millions of Polish Jews, and at Auschwitz, is a sore topic.

This month, Jewish and Polish officials marked anniversaries of two massacres of Jews carried out by Poles before and after World War Two, and some accounts say Poles assisted the Nazis at Auschwitz, where 6,000 died every day during 1944.

But Poles say their fellow nationals risked their lives to hide Jews. Poles are the largest group awarded Israel's Righteous Among the Nations title for helping to save Jews.

Some Jews were angered that Poland's communist government portrayed Auschwitz as a place of martyrdom of Poles, too, in the 1940s and 1950s. Poles, Gypsies, homosexuals and Russians also died at the camp.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: auschwitz; german; germany; holocaust; jewish; jews; nazi; poland

1 posted on 07/12/2006 1:48:37 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

ABP:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1664361/posts


2 posted on 07/12/2006 1:50:16 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: lizol
It needs to be remembered as a Nazi Death Camp. It was always stupid for the boobs in the media to have referred to it as any kind of Polish camp. A simple reading of any history of World War II would show that.
3 posted on 07/12/2006 1:55:18 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: lizol
This month, Jewish and Polish officials marked anniversaries of two massacres of Jews carried out by Poles before and after World War Two, and some accounts say Poles assisted the Nazis at Auschwitz, where 6,000 died every day during 1944.

But Poles say their fellow nationals risked their lives to hide Jews. Poles are the largest group awarded Israel's Righteous Among the Nations title for helping to save Jews.

Poles helped both the Nazis and the Jews. As did the French, Dutch, Norwegians, Italians, Russians, Germans, etc. In short, there are good people and bad people in every nation. I cannot imagine that anyone worth paying attention to believes or says otherwise - so why the fuss? It is perfectly clear and without dispute that the nation of Poland and all of its people were horribly victimized by the Germans in World War II. In fact, Poland lost a larger percentage of its population than any other nation - so no one is blaming the Polish nation for anything.

BTW, my wife's Polish-born uncle was at Auschwitz/Berkenau, and all of the members of his family were murdered by the Nazis. After escaping from Auschwitz with a few fellow Bialystokers, he went to his home to find it occupied by the same Polish family that had identified his family as being Jews to the Germans. My wife's uncle doesn't talk about the war, at least not now...but my understanding, from older cousins of my wife, is that this family didn't see the next day's sunrise.

4 posted on 07/12/2006 2:00:42 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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Jews helped both the Nazis and the Jews, so why the fuss?


5 posted on 07/12/2006 2:05:56 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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6 posted on 07/12/2006 2:07:12 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: Grzegorz 246
Jews helped both the Nazis and the Jews, so why the fuss?

True. There's good and bad in every one of us, let alone in the individuals comprising every nation or religion. However, I'd bet that 99% of the Jews that helped the Nazis did so with the intent of saving their own, or their family's skins, rather than to get back at someone they didn't like, or to be rewarded with someone else's property.

7 posted on 07/12/2006 2:15:25 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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Only 1.5 people died? Sounds like they interviewed that psychopath in Iran.


8 posted on 07/12/2006 2:24:02 PM PDT by whitedog57 (Holland)
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To: lizol
Poland asked the U.N. in April to rename Auschwitz, where 1.5 people, mostly Jews, died in World War Two

Did we forget a few zeros?

I don't have a problem with the name change. Poland suffered a great loss of their Jews, %-wise.

9 posted on 07/12/2006 2:27:25 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Of their Poles too.

Comparable number.


10 posted on 07/12/2006 2:36:53 PM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol

That is true too. It was a NAZI death camp and should be forever known as one.


11 posted on 07/12/2006 2:38:58 PM PDT by Yaelle
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Poland lost about 90%, IIRC.


12 posted on 07/12/2006 2:45:35 PM PDT by PVT4evr (Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: PVT4evr

Of their Jews, that is.


13 posted on 07/12/2006 2:46:11 PM PDT by PVT4evr (Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: PVT4evr
Poland also lost a proportion part of her non-Jewish population. It wasn't 90%, but it was very high, higher, I think, than any other country, but don't quote me on that. Russia lost a comparable proportion. I think Poland's was higher, but I'm not certain of that, and I don't have time to look it up now.
14 posted on 07/12/2006 3:40:24 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Roger, I know that. A few members of my family emigrated to the US from Poland. I don't know the %s of non-Jewish deaths I wasn't trying to downplay their losses.

One thing that always irks me when we hear about the Holocaust is we only hear of the Jews who died, plenty of others went to the camps as well.


15 posted on 07/12/2006 4:27:41 PM PDT by PVT4evr (Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything.)
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To: whitedog57

I saw that error too.


16 posted on 07/12/2006 10:11:55 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: curiosity

Yes, after the Jews, the Poles had the largest number of people killed. Many of them Catholics.

It's no wonder that Poland is mostly Catholic today!


17 posted on 07/12/2006 10:13:20 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: lizol

Polish citizens, both Jews and Christians, suffered horribly during WW II.


18 posted on 07/12/2006 10:19:27 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Leaning on the everlasting arms.)
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To: lizol
""Auschwitz Concentration Camp", a U.N. heritage site, will be renamed "the Former Nazi German Concentration Camp of Auschwitz", the ministry of culture said in a statement."\

Ok, Poland is cool, but this is PC-infected fscking rediculous. No one ever thought Auschwitz was Poland's fault. I've got a Polish-descended guy in my office who thinks this is just stupid.
19 posted on 07/13/2006 7:28:01 AM PDT by DesScorp
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No one ever thought Auschwitz was Poland's fault.

I wish you were right. Go trough this link

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1573821/posts
20 posted on 07/13/2006 8:48:34 AM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol

I don't speak the language. What does the word "Auschwitz" mean?


21 posted on 07/14/2006 12:37:44 AM PDT by Bernard (God helps those who helps themselves - The US Government takes in the rest.)
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It' just a German name of the town, equivalent of Polish name "Oswiecim".

Like English name "Warsaw" or German "Warschau" is the equivalent of Polish "Warszawa".
22 posted on 07/14/2006 9:52:11 AM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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This makes me sick. It's the same as Revisionists who say that the Holocaust either didn't happen or wasn't as bad as everyone thought. Poland just wants to wash away the guilty conscience they feel over the fact that over 3 million of their ancestors were murdered while the majority of the population stood by turning a blind eye. Well, there were 5 other death camps set up in Poland under Aktion Reinhardt, not just Auschwitz-Birkenau. So when can we expect name changes for Belzec, Treblinka, Sobibor, Kulmhof, and Madjanek?


23 posted on 07/19/2006 3:45:05 PM PDT by jerrydoyleforprez (If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed.)
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This makes me sick.

It makes me sick too, that Poland was left alone to fight both the Nazis and Soviets. Who was such a coward? GB and France. Who stood by and watch what is going one in Europe, especially in Poland? USA and influential American Jews.

There were numerous reports from AK about what is going one here, one of which was from the very Auschwitz. The intelligence was made by a Polish AK-member, who "volunteered" to go to Auschwitz.

So, who the f*** are you to write sth like this? :

while the majority of the population stood by turning a blind eye.

24 posted on 07/25/2006 12:50:12 PM PDT by kaiser80
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Kaiser, you can change the name but you can't change people :/


25 posted on 08/01/2006 10:49:15 AM PDT by macel
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Kaiser, you can change the name but you can't change people

And that referes to...?

26 posted on 08/01/2006 2:48:45 PM PDT by kaiser80
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