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America's door shut to foreigners with HIV
The Chicago Tribune ^ | 7-12-2006 | Bonnie Miller Rubin

Posted on 07/12/2006 5:04:06 PM PDT by satchmodog9

In the early years of AIDS, when many people thought a deadly disease dubbed "the gay cancer" might be transmitted via drinking glasses or doorknobs, Congress added HIV to the list of infections that could prevent a foreign visitor from entering the country.

Nearly two decades later, as the international Gay Games begin in Chicago this weekend, the law still bars any HIV-positive foreigner from visiting the U.S., whether it is to play basketball, attend a business meeting or stand up in a family wedding.

Though immigration officials have granted a waiver to allow athletes to attend the games--just as they did in 1994, when the event was held in New York City--many health experts are frustrated and puzzled that the rule exists at all.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: aids; dbmpropaganda; disease; gaygames; hiv; homosexualagenda; immigration; liberalsobstrory; rumprangers
Why is AIDS everyones problem at the same time AIDS infections are none of anyones business or no big deal. This article is pure puke.
1 posted on 07/12/2006 5:04:09 PM PDT by satchmodog9
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To: satchmodog9
You mean all the illegal immigrants are tested before they arrive? Oh, what a weight off my mind!

/s

2 posted on 07/12/2006 5:06:35 PM PDT by blueminnesota
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To: satchmodog9

I'm glad to see we're still doing it right though.


3 posted on 07/12/2006 5:07:32 PM PDT by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: satchmodog9
America's door shut to foreigners with HIV

Now, if we could just shut it to foreigners without talent. ;)

4 posted on 07/12/2006 5:08:15 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: satchmodog9
the law still bars any HIV-positive foreigner from visiting the U.S

Thank God. The TB we get from inbound people is bad enough.

5 posted on 07/12/2006 5:10:03 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (If you're going to lie; do it well.)
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To: Slump Tester
Seems the athletes are starting to adopt a don't ask don't tell attitude.
6 posted on 07/12/2006 5:10:42 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: satchmodog9
I don't know how I'm going to get past this.

I'll never be able to sleep at night knowing that we're keeping AIDS infected foreigners from attending the prestigious "Gay Games".

7 posted on 07/12/2006 5:10:46 PM PDT by MJG
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To: satchmodog9

ummm... GOOD!


8 posted on 07/12/2006 5:11:01 PM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Why is there concern about foreign visitors with AIDS coming to the Gay Games? I don't get the connection. We're not supposed to profile people, so isn't it bigoted to make a connection between the Gay Games and AIDS?

And aren't we making certain bad assumptions that somehow these visitors might spread AIDS?


9 posted on 07/12/2006 5:11:33 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: satchmodog9

We're supposed to welcome people who will soon be too sick to work, people whose expensive treatment will have to be subsidized by the taxpayer?

If they have so much as a cough, keep 'em out. That's what my grandparents had to deal with. It was a sensible policy.


10 posted on 07/12/2006 5:15:21 PM PDT by Oschisms
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To: satchmodog9

Hmmm, if the majority of people who have AIDS are homosexuals and a majority of them contracted the disease by not avoiding unsafe sexual acts, why should we allow them into the nation to expose others to their malidy?

Frankly, I'm appauled by the notion that we should.


11 posted on 07/12/2006 5:16:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Al Qaeda / Taliban operatives: Read the NY Times, for daily up to the minute security threat tips.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

No and No.


12 posted on 07/12/2006 5:16:37 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Oschisms

Well, I think we understand that "political correctness" says that this law should be changed to welcome everyone with HIV and AIDS to America.

While AIDS isn't spread like a common cold or other sicknesses, it's still a threat to public health.

I think any change in the law should be based on our own national interest and health concerns, not catering to lobbying groups or pressure groups or political correctness.


13 posted on 07/12/2006 5:18:27 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Oschisms

Wasn't it jf'nkerry that wanted to give something like 250,000 HIV infectd gays citizenship?


14 posted on 07/12/2006 5:19:43 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I think the assumptions are correct. AIDS is not spread by casual contact. They obviously got it by sexual contact or heroin use. More evidence that their pathological acts spread the disease more each time. Infected people keep screwing infected people. That is pathological behavior and it does not single out homosexuals.
15 posted on 07/12/2006 5:20:21 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: monkeywrench
Do you have a link? I would be interested in reading about that. Another stupid Kerryism. Sounds more like something Clinton would have said.
16 posted on 07/12/2006 5:23:30 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: satchmodog9

OK then, what are some of the events at The Gay Games? I can think of Ball Room Dancing, a Waiter Contest (Hi, my name is goeffory and I'll be your server tonight? Our special is Lamb Kabobs?). Interpretive Dance done to YMCA by The Village people. And, of course, Platform and Spring Board Diving judged by Greg Louganis himself. What else is there?


17 posted on 07/12/2006 5:30:15 PM PDT by joem15 (If less is more, then what is plenty?)
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To: joem15

You forgot Men's Syncronized swimming.


18 posted on 07/12/2006 5:32:09 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: satchmodog9

It's about time! Now if we could build a war on the southern border and stop all the HIV positive illegals from strolling across.


19 posted on 07/12/2006 5:35:23 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: satchmodog9
This writer is such a dope...it was and is called the gay plague, not the gay cancer.
20 posted on 07/12/2006 5:35:52 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather?)
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To: satchmodog9
Another liberal sob story on how protecting our country from those with a deadly disease is inhumane! AIDS Immigrants Have Human Rights Too! I just can hear it now. The Left is insane!

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

21 posted on 07/12/2006 5:41:44 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Though immigration officials have granted a waiver to allow athletes to attend the games--just as they did in 1994, when the event was held in New York City--many health experts are frustrated and puzzled that the rule exists at all.

In my opinion we go back to observing the law completely -the waiver is absurd AND as is evident now an argument advanced by the delusional for doing away with the rational based law...

Opposing the homosexual agenda is not accomplished via half measures and or compromise -give the homosexual agenda activists a delusional inch and [they] will take a delusional mile -bank on that -history proves it.

How can anyone expect societal concern from those intent on self destruction?

22 posted on 07/12/2006 6:40:12 PM PDT by DBeers ()
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To: Centurion2000
Thank God. The TB we get from inbound people is bad enough.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

HIV infected people are highly susceptible to TB. Once they get it, TB can be spread around the rest of us.

The HIV person is a walking petri dish waiting to catch non-STD communicable disease. This walking petri dish then spreads it to innocent others.

And,,,,given the typical HIV life-style he living a life that will spread it to other HIV infected people who then become the walking petri dishes among the rest of us.
23 posted on 07/12/2006 6:56:57 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: satchmodog9

I thought people with AIDS got extra points to immigrate here under Clinton. Lots of Haitians AIDS patients did just that, until the surge out of Haiti got ridiculous. Anyone remember?


24 posted on 07/12/2006 6:58:04 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Frankly, I'm appauled by the notion that we should.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What would happen is that the foreign HIV infected person would over stay their visa. We, the U.S. taxpayer, would then be stuck with a mulit-million dollar health bill.
25 posted on 07/12/2006 7:01:34 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: satchmodog9

I understand there are different strains of HIV overseas.

Why invite them for dinner?


26 posted on 07/12/2006 7:02:30 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: joem15

Naked towel snapping.


27 posted on 07/12/2006 7:02:59 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: satchmodog9
many health experts are frustrated and puzzled that the rule exists at all

Question comes to my mind is, are these "experts" of the same caliber as Gore's global warming experts? The left always seems to have legions of "experts" to support their current cause, but no one is allowed to vet the resumes of these so called experts.

28 posted on 07/12/2006 7:06:12 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: wintertime

http://www-medlib.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/AIDS/AIDS.html


29 posted on 07/12/2006 7:11:43 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I have always stated on FR posts that I want one of these ambiguous "expert" jobs.


30 posted on 07/12/2006 7:14:41 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: Centurion2000

More importantly, the cost of their treatment will strain the health care system even further.


31 posted on 07/12/2006 7:17:24 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: satchmodog9
I have always stated on FR posts that I want one of these ambiguous "expert" jobs.

OK, first question. How far can you put your head up your butt? And can you still be heard pontificating while doing so?

If you answered, "very far" and "yes, clearly", then congratulations, you're hired.

32 posted on 07/12/2006 7:18:07 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

That would make one a shit head. Having a wife in the CIA to send you to Niger would make one an expert, as well as a shithead.


33 posted on 07/12/2006 7:20:50 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: satchmodog9

Since I also tend to think of them as Richard Heads, it makes for an interesting mental picture.


34 posted on 07/12/2006 7:22:44 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Then we come full circle right back to the gay thing.


35 posted on 07/12/2006 7:25:25 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: satchmodog9

Hey, after the broad jump, whadda say we all head over to the bath house and work off the tension?


36 posted on 07/12/2006 7:40:10 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: wintertime

Yep, that sounds about right.


37 posted on 07/12/2006 7:41:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Al Qaeda / Taliban operatives: Read the NY Times, for daily up to the minute security threat tips.)
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To: satchmodog9

In order to legitimize this fiasco as an international event, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services within the Department of Homeland Security has allowed special foreign visitor status for thousands that includes a blanket waiver B-2 travel visa for anyone with HIV/AIDS who wants to participate or simply observe the events. Under a ban passed by Congress in 1993, foreign citizens who have HIV or AIDS have typically been prohibited from entering the United States.

Homeland Security went so far as to give the Gay Games, a series of sporting events modeled on the Olympics, a “designated event status,” setting up the allowance of non-citizens with HIV/AIDS to visit Chicago for the games. Unbelievably, this exemption to allow anyone with HIV or full-blown AIDS to come to the U.S. to attend this travesty was granted after help from Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley and U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowksy (D-9). Ironically, B-2 visas are issued under the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services category as a requirement for “pleasure visitors.”


38 posted on 07/12/2006 7:45:15 PM PDT by toddlintown
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To: toddlintown

Complete government meltdown on all levels.


39 posted on 07/12/2006 7:50:42 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: satchmodog9

But wait. There's more:

Of course, with an event like this, you have to expect corporate profiteers to also arrive on the scene. Drug store chain Walgreens is described on the Gay Games website as the “Official HIV/AIDS Prevention Sponsor” while Orbitz and American Airlines are helping infected visitors arrive in time for the opening events held at Chicago’s Soldier Field. Orbitz has even made it easy for participants and observers to buy plane tickets and set up reservations for accommodations by setting up a direct link under “/gaytravel.” You can also expect to see many of the athletes wearing NIKE shoes and guzzling down Gatorade, two more “Global Sponsors” for the Gay Games.


40 posted on 07/12/2006 7:53:15 PM PDT by toddlintown
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To: satchmodog9
Complete government meltdown on all levels.

Yes.

41 posted on 07/12/2006 7:58:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: toddlintown
I used to live on the corner of Diversey and Kenmore. Boys town was close enough to give us some spill over. The famous Chicago tranny Alexandra Billings (aka Scott) lived downstairs. Sometimes I miss my beloved hometown and then I wake up and shiver. All the erudite, leftists, homos and pop culture slaves find these games wonderful. I find them to be a sad commentary on our society. I will never think of Soldier Field the same way. Now it is Sissie Field, just like when Wannie was coach.
42 posted on 07/12/2006 8:03:21 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: satchmodog9

Wannstadt always looked like a '70s porn star with that mustache...but wait, there's more:

According to the city’s latest STD/HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report, ending in December 31, 2005, the AIDS rate in Chicago is 26.9 per 100,000, double the rate of Illinois and nearly double the rate of the entire U.S. With statistics like this, you would think that the last thing Mayor Daley would encourage would be travel exemptions for foreign HIV/AID carriers so they could come to Chicago.

It’s just amazing what Democrats will do for votes.


43 posted on 07/12/2006 8:08:23 PM PDT by toddlintown
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To: toddlintown
As is Ford Motor Co.

Anyone else uncomfortable going to hotel rooms, wondering who has been there before me?? Or is it just me LOL Definitely won't be going to/staying in Chicago!
44 posted on 07/12/2006 8:21:50 PM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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To: toddlintown
As is Ford Motor Co.

Anyone else uncomfortable going to hotel rooms, wondering who has been there before me?? Or is it just me LOL Definitely won't be going to/staying in Chicago!
45 posted on 07/12/2006 8:21:53 PM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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To: toddlintown

I know AIDS isn't spread casually but I would worry about those who are unknowingly exposed to HIV-positive people. I wouldn't want to clean hotel rooms of HIV-positive guests without knowing that beforehand and being allowed to take precautions. Am I being medically stupid or just politically incorrect?


46 posted on 07/12/2006 8:28:27 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Centurion2000
Thank God. The TB we get from inbound people is bad enough.

Yep. Had a case confirmed at a nearby county lock up today.

47 posted on 07/12/2006 9:40:33 PM PDT by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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