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It’s Corn vs. Soybeans in a Biofuels Debate
NY Times' Terrorist Tip Sheet ^ | July 13, 2006 | ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO

Posted on 07/13/2006 11:33:47 PM PDT by neverdem

CHICAGO, July 12 — Biodiesel produced from soybeans produces more usable energy and reduces greenhouse gases more than corn-based ethanol, making it more deserving of subsidies, according to a study being published this month in The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The study, done by researchers at the University of Minnesota and at St. Olaf College in Northfield, Minn., points to the environmental benefits of the biodiesel over ethanol made from corn, stating that ethanol provides 25 percent more energy a gallon than is required for its production, while soybean biodiesel generates 93 percent more energy.

The study’s authors also found that ethanol, in its production and consumption, reduces greenhouse gas emissions by 12 percent, compared with fossil fuels. Biodiesel, they said, reduces such emissions 41 percent, compared with fossil fuels.

The study concludes that the future of replacing oil and gas lies with cellulosic ethanol produced from low-cost materials like switch grass or wheat straw, if it is grown on agriculturally marginal land or from waste plant material.

Indeed, the study published by the National Academy of Sciences found that neither ethanol nor biodiesel can replace much petroleum without having an impact on food supply. If all American corn and soybean production were dedicated to biofuels, that fuel would replace only 12 percent of gas demand and 6 percent of diesel demand, the study notes.

Researchers at universities and at the United States Agriculture Department have debated ethanol’s benefits as policy makers continue to struggle with how to respond to high gasoline prices and how to reduce America’s dependence on foreign oil.

Some lawmakers have urged an end to federal subsidies of 51 cents a gallon for ethanol refiners. The subsidies have helped create a boom in ethanol production and have made ethanol more profitable than ever.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Technical; US: District of Columbia; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: airpollution; biodiesel; biodieselfuel; ecology; ethanol; science
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I wonder if they ignored the recovery of used cooking oil as biodiesel in this study?

Environmental, economic, and energetic costs and benefits of biodiesel and ethanol biofuels

Negative environmental consequences of fossil fuels and concerns about petroleum supplies have spurred the search for renewable transportation biofuels. To be a viable alternative, a biofuel should provide a net energy gain, have environmental benefits, be economically competitive, and be producible in large quantities without reducing food supplies. We use these criteria to evaluate, through life-cycle accounting, ethanol from corn grain and biodiesel from soybeans. Ethanol yields 25% more energy than the energy invested in its production, whereas biodiesel yields 93% more. Compared with ethanol, biodiesel releases just 1.0%, 8.3%, and 13% of the agricultural nitrogen, phosphorus, and pesticide pollutants, respectively, per net energy gain. Relative to the fossil fuels they displace, greenhouse gas emissions are reduced 12% by the production and combustion of ethanol and 41% by biodiesel. Biodiesel also releases less air pollutants per net energy gain than ethanol. These advantages of biodiesel over ethanol come from lower agricultural inputs and more efficient conversion of feedstocks to fuel. Neither biofuel can replace much petroleum without impacting food supplies. Even dedicating all U.S. corn and soybean production to biofuels would meet only 12% of gasoline demand and 6% of diesel demand. Until recent increases in petroleum prices, high production costs made biofuels unprofitable without subsidies. Biodiesel provides sufficient environmental advantages to merit subsidy. Transportation biofuels such as synfuel hydrocarbons or cellulosic ethanol, if produced from low-input biomass grown on agriculturally marginal land or from waste biomass, could provide much greater supplies and environmental benefits than food-based biofuels.

1 posted on 07/13/2006 11:33:49 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
These studies also assume that all farm equipment will always run off of petroleum based fuels. But many farmers like to buy their own product and run it in their farm equipment. Now if we can just get the ethanol plants to burn ethanol for heating their mash we'll have a much greener system. Although I'd rather see the mash heated with the excess heat produced at a nuclear plant.
2 posted on 07/14/2006 12:12:10 AM PDT by ME-262 (The Democrat party is slowly being reduced by abortion AIDS and imprisonment...and soon deportation!)
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To: neverdem

What's this "more deserving of subsidies" crap? If it's a viable product, people should be lining up around the block to invest.

WORLD ENDS: MINORITIES, SOYBEANS HARDEST HIT


3 posted on 07/14/2006 12:23:52 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Has the New York Times ever thwarted a top secret AL-QAEDA operation?)
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To: neverdem; ME-262
Ethanol yields 25% more energy than the energy invested in its production,

I have read elsewhere that Ethanol requires 30% More energy to produce than it yields when burned.

This includes farm production (including fertilizer, herbicides and pesticides), distillation and transportation.

4 posted on 07/14/2006 12:43:27 AM PDT by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: neverdem

My daughter is one of many individuals strongly allergic to anything that has any soy in it. It paralyzes her respiratory system as well as interferes with brain functioning. What on earth will the fumes do for people like her?


5 posted on 07/14/2006 12:43:44 AM PDT by Spirited
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To: neverdem

If it were only possible to harness the energy, it would be found that Navy beans produce the most usable energy of anything on planet earth.


6 posted on 07/14/2006 12:54:39 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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7 posted on 07/14/2006 1:22:35 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

These decisions will not be made in the penthouses of NY skyscrapers. In fact, farmers alternate planting corn and soybeans because soybeans fix nitrogen in the soil that corn uses.


8 posted on 07/14/2006 4:02:51 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Pontiac

Believe nothing without independent verification unless it is congruent with your prejudices.


9 posted on 07/14/2006 4:19:35 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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This is unmitigated good news: Save the corn for liquor; Sacrifice tofu for fuel.
10 posted on 07/14/2006 4:40:02 AM PDT by Tom D. (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benj. Franklin)
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To: Pontiac
"I have read elsewhere that Ethanol requires 30% More energy to produce than it yields when burned."

Which is the point of the current study---to actually lay to rest that false notion. The most recent and most thorough studies show pretty much the same as this one--both ethanol and biodiesel are net energy producers.

11 posted on 07/14/2006 5:14:13 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: ME-262

"These studies also assume that all farm equipment will always run off of petroleum based fuels. But many farmers like to buy their own product and run it in their farm equipment. Now if we can just get the ethanol plants to burn ethanol for heating their mash we'll have a much greener system."

But you still miss the point that you are getting diddly/squat net ENERGY production from corn ethanol.


12 posted on 07/14/2006 5:20:15 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: neverdem
A lot of the bio diesel plants are going to us fat and cooking oils also, along with soybeans. The thing is we have a lot more soy oil laying around that is ready to be refined. It will take some time to get the infrastructure to collect all the side streams of grease.

Long term though, bio diesel is a better deal.
13 posted on 07/14/2006 5:23:42 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Pontiac
That is an old study by Piemetal in Cornell. The guy is also known for thinking that most of us should die so the remaining children could live better. If you used his methods to study oil, it comes out just as bad since you would have to figure out the cost of building the ships, planes, and tanks that we use to keep the lid on the Middle East.

Current technology has the energy balance coming out ahead, and with better enzymes more gains are being made. The two biggest energy hogs are the cooking process (which enzymes can help) and drying of the spent grain (which the EPA is trying like mad to increase the energy used).
14 posted on 07/14/2006 5:28:49 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Spirited
Nothing. The soy proteins won't be in the oil. The oil has to be esterized with a strong acid before it can be burned, which would also break down any remaining proteins. She will be fine.
15 posted on 07/14/2006 5:32:33 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: FastCoyote
No, you actually come out ahead. And the margin is increasing slowly.

Also, remember the fuel that feeds the plant boiler can't run my car. I can use bagas (dried plants), coal, natural gas, land fill gas, methane from a digester, etc to run a boiler. My truck can run on ethanol, but not on any of those.
16 posted on 07/14/2006 5:35:38 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

My bet is the company that farms the largest amount of soybeans is also one of the larger contributors to the DNC.


17 posted on 07/14/2006 5:58:08 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats - The reason we need term limits)
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To: redgolum

"No, you actually come out ahead."

Again, you miss the point. It is doodly/squat ahead. They are saying that even if you devote the entire corn harvest to ethanol production it will only marginally affect the amount of petroleum used. Even if your tractors use methanol, the net energy to be gained is trivial.

With soybeans you have a chance, but you still don't get a petroleum independent society.


18 posted on 07/14/2006 7:35:07 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote

They are working, at the University of New Hampshire, on various strains of algae as feedstocks for biodiesel production, which have a much higher oil efficiency than even soybeans, and can be grown quickly and easily in vats of sunny water.


19 posted on 07/14/2006 7:53:47 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: FastCoyote

100% correct. The US uses over 22 million barrels of oil a day. And the supply is now in decline. Even the tar sands at max production will only produce 2-2.5 million barrels a day. The hurt is coming.


20 posted on 07/14/2006 8:17:22 AM PDT by OregonRancher (illigitimus non carborundun)
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