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Vatican Condemns Israel for Attacks on Lebanon
Reuters ^ | July 14, 2006

Posted on 07/14/2006 7:51:25 AM PDT by dinoparty

Vatican condemns Israel for attacks on Lebanon VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican on Friday strongly deplored Israel's strikes on Lebanon, saying they were "an attack" on a sovereign and free nation.

Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Angelo Sodano said Pope Benedict and his aides were very worried that the developments in the Middle East risked degenerating into "a conflict with international repercussions."

"In particular, the Holy See deplores right now the attack on Lebanon, a free and sovereign nation, and assures its closeness to these people who already have suffered so much to defend their independence," he told Vatican Radio.

Israel struck Beirut airport again on Friday and bombed Lebanese roads, power supplies and communication networks in a widening campaign after Hizbollah guerrillas seized two Israeli soldiers and killed eight.

Sodano said the Vatican condemned both "terroristic attacks" and military reprisals.

Hizbollah, which wants to trade its captives for prisoners held in Israel, has showered rockets across the frontier in its fiercest bombardment since 1996 when Israel launched a 17-day blitz against southern Lebanon and Hizbollah. ADVERTISEMENT

But Sodano reserved his harshest words for Israel.

"The right of defence on the part of a state does not exempt it from its responsibility to respect international law, particularly regarding the safeguarding of civilian populations," he said.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; catholic; hezbollah; hitlerspope; iran; israel; lebanon; romancatholicism; syria; vatican
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Not unexpected, but disappointing.
1 posted on 07/14/2006 7:51:26 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: dinoparty

This is most unfortunate.


2 posted on 07/14/2006 7:52:55 AM PDT by Peach (Prayers for our dear friends in Israel.)
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To: dinoparty

The Vatican is wrong


3 posted on 07/14/2006 7:53:11 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePb6H-j51xE&search=Democrats)
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To: dinoparty

Just how many times is Israel expected to turn the other cheek,Cardinal?


4 posted on 07/14/2006 7:53:22 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: dinoparty

Politically, they must condemn the attacks. If they supported them in any way it would start the "crusade" publicity by the Islamic pukes.


5 posted on 07/14/2006 7:53:39 AM PDT by Loud Mime ("Countdown": A documentary about Keith Olbermann's dwindling IQ.....)
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To: dinoparty

I'll second your comment. Very disappointing to say the least.


6 posted on 07/14/2006 7:54:03 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (NY Slimes the paper of record for OBL!)
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To: dinoparty

If the vatican had ever taken a hardline stance against islam it may have a leg to stand on. As it is, it never has and it doesn't.


7 posted on 07/14/2006 7:54:15 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: dinoparty

As usual, the Vatican is out to lunch.


8 posted on 07/14/2006 7:55:13 AM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: Loud Mime
Politically, they must condemn the attacks

I understand that point .. but it's best if they said nothing at all, imo

9 posted on 07/14/2006 7:55:13 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePb6H-j51xE&search=Democrats)
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To: dinoparty

I can never figure out why it's alright for Israel to be attacked but never right for them to attack...according to the Vatican, the EU, etc.

Not a word when the PLO or Hizbullah is lobing missles into Israel, but let them retaliate and the world gets "up in arms."

Krauthammer had a great article this morning discussing that very thing.


10 posted on 07/14/2006 7:55:52 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: dinoparty

This is just more fodder for the Isalmofascists.


13 posted on 07/14/2006 7:57:09 AM PDT by keats5
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To: dinoparty
Vatican Condemns Israel for Attacks on Lebanon

Good grief. Yeah, it's all Israel's fault. Why don't they just sit back and let their soldiers be kidnapped and/or killed, and let Israeli citizens be kidnapped, killed and burned? And then there's those harmless Qassam-2's fired into Israel; they should just ignore them like a gentle rain. What's wrong with those Joooooooos anyway?
15 posted on 07/14/2006 7:57:30 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: dinoparty

Wheres the condeming of palestinian suicide bombers? The vatican is not exactly realistic when it comes to current events.


16 posted on 07/14/2006 7:58:07 AM PDT by Element187
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To: Loud Mime

Then why not condemn the attacks of Muslims on others.

Did the vatican make a statement about the Islamic terrorists who blew up the train in Indian, killing a couple hundred people?

Maybe they did, I don't know, it just seems to me that the world in general condemns attacks on Muslims, but not by Muslims.


17 posted on 07/14/2006 7:58:24 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: 4butnomorethan30characters

If in fact the RC doctrine of papal infallibility is only for matters of faith, it would seem to me that you are merely guilty of having good sense.


18 posted on 07/14/2006 7:59:44 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Bikers4Bush
If the vatican had ever taken a hardline stance against islam it may have a leg to stand on. As it is, it never has and it doesn't."""

Read a history book before you embarrass yourself. The Vatican "never has" "taken a hardline stance against islam"???? Give me a break. Ever hear of the crusades, or the battle of Lepanto? Maybe the reason they don't want Lebanon blown to smithereens is because of the CATHOLICS who live there in large numbers. But you apparently think that only Muslims live in the middle east.

19 posted on 07/14/2006 8:00:05 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Loud Mime

The Vatican is an impotent as everyone else involved when it comes to fighting these Islamic basta*ds. Thank God, we have Bush in office. Can you imagine...what things would be like with Kerry or Gore... ?


20 posted on 07/14/2006 8:00:07 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you again Jimmy Carter.)
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To: Mo1

Imagine this scenario:

Q. Hey Pope! Do you support or not support the Israeli invasion of Lebanon.

A. No answer....just walks away
No stand is the same as support. the Islamic pukes lie enough about all other things; If the Vatican didn't come out against the attacks, the ipso facto relationship would be a publicity boom to the Islamofascists.

I see this as a nundge-nudge wink-wink statement from the Vatican.


22 posted on 07/14/2006 8:01:04 AM PDT by Loud Mime ("Countdown": A documentary about Keith Olbermann's dwindling IQ.....)
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To: NYer

your perspective would be welcome


23 posted on 07/14/2006 8:01:15 AM PDT by Rytwyng (Only a Million Minuteman March can stop the Bush Border Betrayal!)
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To: dinoparty
Hummm....
I guess they are just supposed to shake their finger at the terrorist and tell them to quit?
Seems that they have been trying that for several years now - News Flash: IT DOESN"T WORK.

Sorry, you got this one wrong....

GE
24 posted on 07/14/2006 8:01:20 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: dinoparty

So much for the infallibility of the Pope.

And its not that the Pope is a German. He is a Euroweenie.
Euroweenies beleive that appeasement and weakness form an adequate defense towards evil.


25 posted on 07/14/2006 8:01:31 AM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: dinoparty

Here is an unbiased report:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1665685/posts


26 posted on 07/14/2006 8:01:33 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: zook; D-Chivas
I'll get flamed for this, but I mean after all it's a German Pope.

You are both supreme idiots, to say nothing of your bigotry.

The Vatican is making a public statement because there are many, many Arab Christians and to avoid appearing to sanction an attack on a Muslim nation.

The Pope knows, as do the rest of his curial cardinals, that Israel cares not at all what they think, nor should they.

27 posted on 07/14/2006 8:01:38 AM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: dawn53
the world in general condemns attacks on Muslims, """

Lebanon has a large Catholic population. Didn't you know that? It would be remiss for the pope not to express concern about their welfare.

28 posted on 07/14/2006 8:02:09 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: dinoparty

Not to be a sore thumb, but in defense of the Vatican and also curious to hear some answers to this question, isn't an all out war perhaps a little over-the-top against 3 soldiers being kidnapped? Is the FR consensus that the governments of the attacked "nations" Palestine and Lebanon actually could free these soldiers from their military wings if they really wanted to?


29 posted on 07/14/2006 8:02:19 AM PDT by Squire of St. Michael
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To: churchillbuff

Point taken, but you must admit that the Vatican hasn't had the greatest record when it comes to atrocities against jews.


30 posted on 07/14/2006 8:02:24 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: wvobiwan

Wow had to get that in here, hmmmmmm


31 posted on 07/14/2006 8:02:42 AM PDT by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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To: Loud Mime

I could not agree more.


32 posted on 07/14/2006 8:02:48 AM PDT by shellback_72 ("Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful...." George Orwell)
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"I'll get flamed for this, but I mean after all it's a German Pope."

No flame to ya but Pope Benedict has no such bias toward Jews, in fact in WWII he put his own neck on the line to save hundreds if not thousands of Jews while most people didn't lift a finger.

I am dissapointed also at this stance. The Vatican should announce they are not happy at war and bloodshed but if they are going to pick sides, it should be on the side of God's people who simply want to live in peace. Israel bent over backwards to negotiate a peace and all they get is more jihad.


33 posted on 07/14/2006 8:03:02 AM PDT by quantfive
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To: dinoparty
The entire statement as seen here:

HOLY SEE CONDEMNS VIOLENCE IN MIDDLE EAST

VATICAN CITY, JUL 14, 2006 (VIS) - Cardinal Secretary of State Angelo Sodano today made the following declaration on Vatican Radio:

"The news we are receiving from the Middle East is certainly worrying.

"The Holy Father Benedict XVI and all his collaborators are following with great attention the latest dramatic episodes, which risk degenerating into a conflict with international repercussions.

"As in the past, the Holy See also condemns both the terrorist attacks on the one side and the military reprisals on the other. Indeed, a State's right to self-defense does not exempt it from respecting the norms of international law, especially as regards the protection of civilian populations.

"In particular, the Holy See deplores the attack on Lebanon, a free and sovereign nation, and gives assurances of its closeness to those people who have suffered so much in the defense of their own independence.

"Once again, it appears obvious that the only path worthy of our civilization is that of sincere dialogue between the contending parties."
SS/MIDDLE EAST VIOLENCE/SODANO VIS 060714 (180)


34 posted on 07/14/2006 8:03:15 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: avg_freeper

thanks


35 posted on 07/14/2006 8:04:28 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: dinoparty
The Vatican on Friday strongly deplored Israel's strikes on Lebanon, saying they were "an attack" on a sovereign and free nation.

What do you think the terrorists were doing to Israel, you ignorant foolish idiots.

36 posted on 07/14/2006 8:04:48 AM PDT by mjp
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To: dinoparty
Point taken, but you must admit that the Vatican hasn't had the greatest record when it comes to atrocities against jews.

More foolishness. What is it with you guys? Did you just get your latest Jack Chick email?

37 posted on 07/14/2006 8:04:55 AM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Mo1
There are a lot of Catholics in the region who don't like Israel. To support Israel would risk a schism.
38 posted on 07/14/2006 8:05:08 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: avg_freeper

Gee, why am I not surprised that Reuters left out the part about the Vatican also condemning the terrorist attacks?


39 posted on 07/14/2006 8:05:18 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: Mo1
but it's best if they said nothing at all, imo

Like Muslim clerics are usually silent regarding terrorist activities? I understand the Vatican being horrifically pro-peace at any cost, but then where is their outrage when Israel is constantly being attacked by terrorists? Talk about talking out of both sides of their mouth...

40 posted on 07/14/2006 8:05:25 AM PDT by Heartland Mom (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: quantfive
I am dissapointed also at this stance."""

If I was a Christian living in Lebanon - of whom there are many - I would applaud him for urging the military not to bomb civilian neighborhoods, such as my own. The pope has an obligation to his flock - even those living in Lebanon.

41 posted on 07/14/2006 8:05:40 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: dinoparty

What did Jesus call the Priests of His day? White washed tombs with nothing but old bones inside?


42 posted on 07/14/2006 8:05:41 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Loud Mime
Politically, they must condemn the attacks. If they supported them in any way it would start the "crusade" publicity by the Islamic pukes.

The Church's actions and policies are not supposed to be dictated by world politics. The Church is to carry out God's will. They are supposed to act according to God's teachings, not man's.

43 posted on 07/14/2006 8:05:46 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: Loud Mime

Well, the pope never officially said anything. It was their Sec. of State. Still, that's still pretty bad and cowardly. Should have just kept quiet.


44 posted on 07/14/2006 8:06:36 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: dinoparty
Unfortunately, there are a lot of good folks (including many Christians) in Lebanon that like the USA. Lebanon is one of the few democracies in the region. The problem is that the Lebanese government can't control the terrorist on its borders. It's really a no-win situation.

Don't be too hard on the Pope. He jsut doesn't want to see Syria use this as an excuse to come back into Lebanon.

45 posted on 07/14/2006 8:06:36 AM PDT by CWW (GOP 2008 Dream Ticket -- George Allen (Pres) and Mark Sanford (V.P.))
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To: sinkspur

So I take it, then, that you believe that the Vatican HAS had a great record when it comes to atrocities against jews?


46 posted on 07/14/2006 8:06:43 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: Squire of St. Michael

"Not to be a sore thumb, but in defense of the Vatican and also curious to hear some answers to this question, isn't an all out war perhaps a little over-the-top against 3 soldiers being kidnapped?"

Nope, Hezbollah which is directly controlled by Syria crossed the boarder into a another nation (Israel) and murdered several troops then took hostages. Israel places a high value on their people as we do here in America. This is not an isolated incident and Israel has had enough.


47 posted on 07/14/2006 8:06:52 AM PDT by quantfive
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To: churchillbuff

Who the hell cares about the past? I'm talking about right here and right now. What they did centuries ago amounts to jack today.

If they'd wiped them out as they should have we wouldn't be in this shape.


48 posted on 07/14/2006 8:07:38 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Squire of St. Michael

No. Get some perspective Squire, it's not just about the kidnapping of these soldiers. It's about 50 years of murder and war.

Iran and Syria are calling the shots here, the Lebanese are simply caught in the crossfire. The Lebanese govt. is not totally blameless however, their desire for autonomy from Iran, Syria, and their terrorist agents is not matched by their actions against them.

In fairness, the Lebanese problem is also 50 years in the making, it cannot be expected to be resolved in a year or two despite the recent amazing progress.


49 posted on 07/14/2006 8:08:00 AM PDT by wvobiwan (BOYCOTT NYT, LAT, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, BBC, WaPo, USA Today, and ALL leftist rags!!!)
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To: untrained skeptic

This coming from a self-avowed skeptic? LOL. j/k


50 posted on 07/14/2006 8:08:11 AM PDT by dinoparty
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