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Talk About A Bad Draw! (Plame/Wilson Lawsuit Judge)
Captain's Quarters ^ | July 14, 2006 | Captain Ed

Posted on 07/15/2006 1:42:47 AM PDT by Lancey Howard

Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame have run into a bit of bad luck in their lawsuit against Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby, Karl Rove, and ten random Republicans. CQ reader Denis K took a peek at the complaint and noticed something that I had missed earlier -- the judge assigned to the case. Wilson and Plame drew Judge John D. Bates -- and a quick glance at his rulings will no doubt have the Left fuming.

(Excerpt) Read more at captainsquartersblog.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 16words; bushlied; cialeak; johnbates; judge; lawsuit; literaryflare
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1 posted on 07/15/2006 1:42:49 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Howlin

Hi, Howlin,

Could you please ping the list?
Thanks.

Regards,
LH


2 posted on 07/15/2006 1:43:57 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

The suit is about publicity. The can't be stupid enough to believe they have a chance.


3 posted on 07/15/2006 1:47:30 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Lancey Howard
Possibility of bizzarro Fitzmas for Rats.
4 posted on 07/15/2006 1:50:31 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Striving to obtain liberal victim status.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
The suit is about publicity. The can't be stupid enough to believe they have a chance.

What do they care as long as they're in the news. Plus their lawyer is probably a loony left true believer who is charging little or nothing for his services

5 posted on 07/15/2006 1:51:43 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: Lancey Howard

Interesting.

Here's the permanent link, for future reference:
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/007493.php


6 posted on 07/15/2006 1:53:49 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Lancey Howard

They'll probably try for a change of venue or a new judge. I'd love to see 'em get stuck with Bates though!


7 posted on 07/15/2006 1:59:49 AM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (LIBS = Lewd Insane Babbling Scum)
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To: All
How long will it take before the Left starts screaming "CONSPIRACY"? Faster than the Wilsons can file a disqualification motion with the court.
Posted by Captain Ed


And then Novak went public with his story...Ah well, the previous thread about shark jumping and this makes me want to watch just in case they biff it in a spectacular crash.
8 posted on 07/15/2006 2:10:49 AM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
The suit is about publicity. The can't be stupid enough to believe they have a chance.

Her book's about to come out. This is for publicity.

9 posted on 07/15/2006 2:13:59 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Lancey Howard
Wednesday, July 21, 2004

WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senator Mitch McConnell today delivered the following statement on the Senate floor:

“Mr. President, I rise today to discuss a matter of considerable relevance to the debate about the war in Iraq and the recent Senate Report on the Intelligence Community. This report has illuminated a subject of considerable controversy and partisan criticism of the President.

“I also rise to speak about the importance of maintaining a basic standard of fairness in American politics.

“I’m talking about the controversy that erupted over the infamous “16 words” in the State of the Union Address that Senator Kerry, numerous Senate Democrats, and the media cited in accusations that the President misled the country into war.

“On January 28, 2003, President Bush told the American people that, “The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.”

“When doubt surfaced about some – but not all – of the evidence supporting this claim, Joe Wilson – who had traveled to Niger to investigate an aspect of the intelligence – penned an op-ed in the New York Times accusing the Administration of manipulating intelligence.

“Not pausing for a full investigation, a partisan parade of Democratic Senators and Presidential candidates took to the streets to criticize the President and accuse him of misleading the nation into war.

”Sensing a scandal, the media pounced.

“NBC aired 40 reports on Wilson’s claims. CBS aired 30 reports, while ABC aired 18. Newspapers didn’t hold back either. The New York Times printed 70 articles reinforcing these allegations, while the Washington Post printed 98.

“Pundits and politicians gorged themselves on the story.

“Joe Wilson rose to great fame on the back of this inflammatory charge: He wrote a book for which he received a five-figure advance, he was lionized by the Liberal Left, and he became an advisor to Senator Kerry’s presidential campaign, a campaign to which he is also a financial contributor.

“Of course, we now know Wilson’s allegation was false. And we know the chief proponent of this charge, Joe Wilson, has been proven to be a liar.

“After more than a year of misrepresentation and obfuscation, two bipartisan reports from two different countries have thoroughly repudiated Wilson’s assertions and determined that President Bush’s 16-word statement about Iraq’s efforts to procure uranium from Niger was well founded.

“In fact, the real 16-word statement we should focus on is the one from Lord Butler’s comprehensive report about British intelligence: “We conclude that the statement in President Bush’s State of the Union address… is well founded.”

“Let me repeat: “We conclude that the statement in President Bush’s State of the Union address… is well founded.” Those are 16 words to remember, Mr. President.

“It is now worth the Senate’s time to consider Mr. Wilson’s claims.

“Claim #1 is Wilson’s assertion his Niger trip report should have debunked the State of the Union claim.

“On this bold allegation, the Senate’s bipartisan report included this important conclusion: The report on the former ambassador’s trip to Niger, disseminated in March 2002, did not change any analysts’ assessments of the Iraq-Niger uranium deal. For most analysts, the information in the report lent more credibility to the original CIA reports on the uranium deal…

“Let me repeat: “For most analysts, the information in the report lent more credibility to the original CIA reports on the uranium deal…”

”Claim #2 is similarly egregious.

“According to the Washington Post, “Wilson provided misleading information to the Washington Post last June. He said then that he concluded the Niger intelligence was based on a document that had clearly been forged…” But “the documents…were not in U.S. hands until eight months after Wilson made his trip to Niger.” (Susan Schmidt, Washington Post, A9, 7/10/04)

“Predictably, this bombshell appeared on page A9. Page A9, Mr. President! After this story had previously enjoyed extensive coverage on Page A1.

“There were indeed document forgeries, but these documents were not the only evidence that convinced foreign intelligence services about Iraq’s efforts to purchase uranium.

“Damningly, the former Prime Minister of Niger himself believed the Iraqis wanted to purchase uranium and according to the Financial Times: “European intelligence officers have now revealed that three years before the fake documents became public, human and electronic intelligence sources from a number of countries picked up repeated discussion of an illicit trade in uranium from Niger. One of the customers discussed by the traders was Iraq.”

“And the Wall Street Journal has reported that: “French and British intelligence (services) separately told the U.S. about possible Iraqi attempts to buy uranium in Niger.” (WSJ, 7/19/04)

“Mr. President, when the French corroborate a story that Iraq is seeking WMD, you’re probably in the right ballpark.

“Indeed, the Senate’s bipartisan report concluded that at the time: “it was reasonable for analysts to assess that Iraq may have been seeking uranium from Africa based on CIA reporting and other available intelligence.”

“Claim #3 is Wilson’s repeated denial that his wife, Valerie Plame, a CIA analyst, never recommended him for the Niger trip.

“In his ironically titled book, The Politics of Truth, Wilson claimed: “Valerie had nothing to do with the matter…She definitely had not proposed that I make the trip.”

“The facts are, Mr. President, the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Report includes testimony that Plame “offered up his name” and quotes a memo that Plame wrote that asserts “my husband has good relations with Niger officials.”

“The New York Times recently reported that: “Instead of assigning a trained intelligence officer to the Niger case, though, the C.I.A. sent a former American Ambassador, Joseph Wilson, to talk to former Niger officials. His wife, Valerie Plame, was an officer in the counterproliferation division, and she had suggested that he be sent to Niger, according to the Senate report.” (NYT, 7/14/04)

”That story, Mr. President, can be read on Page A14.

“Claim #4 is Wilson’s allegation that the CIA warned the White House about the Niger claim and that the White House manipulated intelligence to bolster its argument for war. Wilson charged: “The problem is not the intelligence but the manipulation of intelligence. That will all come out despite (Sen.) Roberts’ effort to shift the blame. This was and is a White House issue, not a CIA issue.” This reckless charge by Wilson was, we know, repeated by many of the President’s critics.

”Of course, it’s not true.

“The Senate Intelligence Report determined the White House did not manipulate intelligence, but rather that the CIA had provided faulty information to policymakers. And the Washington Post recently reported that “Contrary to Wilson’s assertions… the CIA did not tell the White House it had qualms about the reliability of the Africa intelligence.” (Susan Schmidt, Washington Post, A9, 7/10/04)

“Again: Front page news on Page A9.

“According to the New York Times and the Senate Intelligence Report, Joe Wilson admitted to Committee staff that some of his assertions in his book may have, quote, “involved a little literary flair.”

“Mr. President, “Literary flair” is a fancy way of saying what ordinary people shooting the breeze on their front porches all across America call by its real name: a lie.

“So, Mr. President, the truth is Joe Wilson did not expose the Administration; in fact, he has been exposed as a liar.

“He misrepresented the findings of his trip to Niger, he fabricated stories about recognizing forgeries he never saw, he falsely accused the White House of manipulating intelligence, and he misrepresented his wife’s role in promoting him for the mission.

“Joe Wilson’s false claims have been exposed, but the networks aren’t rushing to correct the story. Will NBC correct the 40 times it ran Wilson’s claims, will CBS correct the 30 times it ran Wilson’s claims, will ABC correct the 18 times it ran Wilson’s claims?

“To be sure, a few networks and newspapers have noted the Senate Intelligence Report’s conclusions, but where is the balance? Where are the lead stories? Where are the banner headlines? In short, where is the fairness?

“Sadly, that’s the state of political coverage in this election year. Screaming charges about the President made on A1, repudiation of the charges on A9, if they are made at all. Is that fair?

“And what of the political campaigns? It’s a small wonder the Democrat candidates for President and their supporters aggressively picked up the Wilson claim. After all, the media was driving the train, so why not hitch a ride?

“However, now that Wilson’s false claims have been exposed, shouldn’t a basic sense of fairness prevail? Shouldn’t the partisans admit they were wrong, too?

“For example, some of my colleagues in the Senate should ask themselves if it’s now appropriate to distance themselves from Joe Wilson’s distortions. Speaking on this floor on March 23, the Minority Leader praised Wilson and accused the Administration of retaliating against him: "When Ambassador Joe Wilson told the truth about the administration’s misleading claims about Iraq, Niger, and uranium, the people around the President didn’t respond with facts. Instead they publicly disclosed that Ambassador Wilson’s wife was a deep-cover CIA agent."

“Just last month, Senator Daschle noted: "Sunlight, it's been said, is the best disinfectant. But for too long, the administration has been able to keep Congress and the American people in the dark… other serious matters, such as the manipulation of intelligence about Iraq, have received only fitful attention."

“I hope my friend from South Dakota will acknowledge the inaccuracy of his statement, and allow the sunlight to shine on Ambassador Wilson’s fictions.

“Senator Kerry welcomed Wilson onto his campaign team of advisors, and his campaign hosts Wilson’s website, which carries a disclaimer that it is “Paid for by John Kerry for President, Inc.”

“The Kerry/Wilson website includes a collection of articles by and about Joe Wilson that propound his baseless allegations against the Bush Administration, which I don’t have time to go into today. Suffice it to say that showcasing Wilson’s discredited views should at least be met with some acknowledgement that he was wrong all along.

“Perhaps we can learn a thing or two from the recent episode involving Sandy Berger.

“Berger, an advisor to President Clinton and Senator Kerry stepped down from the Kerry campaign. He’s under investigation for removing and possibly destroying classified documents being reviewed by the 9/11 Commission.

“Were I to engage in a little “literary flair”, I might say it seems Sandy walked out of the National Archives with some PDBs in his BVDs, and some classified docs in his socks.

“At any rate, I think it’s appropriate – and politically wise – for him to leave the Kerry campaign.

“It’s clear Senator Kerry approved of Mr. Berger’s departure. He should certainly ask the discredited Mr. Wilson to leave the team as well.

“So Mr. President, I close with a simple observation. I believe vigorous political disagreements are the heart of a strong democracy. When our debates are rooted in fact, impassioned political disagreement makes our country stronger.

“I also believe Americans value fundamental fairness, and deserve a news media that reflects this value. How is it fair to report an accusation with blaring Page One headlines and around-the-clock television coverage and not give a slam dunk repudiation of the charge the same kind of attention?

“Mr. President, we’ll watch over the next few days to see if fundamental fairness will be met, and if those who championed Mr. Wilson’s charges will set the record straight.”

________________________________________________

Not only has the media not brought balance to this story after two years, but it continues to trumpet Wilson's lies.

10 posted on 07/15/2006 2:16:58 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat
“Mr. President, we’ll watch over the next few days to see if fundamental fairness will be met, and if those who championed Mr. Wilson’s charges will set the record straight.”

That'll happen right after a gaggle of Howler Monkeys fly out of my nose.

L

11 posted on 07/15/2006 2:20:33 AM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: Lurker

bump


12 posted on 07/15/2006 2:36:05 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Lancey Howard

Val and Joe have a website so you can 'contribute' and pay their legal/living expenses. (Who needs a job!) Darlings of the Left/dems cocktail parties, they're invited everywhere, lots of TV facetime, life is good!


13 posted on 07/15/2006 2:40:14 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Lancey Howard
This "me" couple should hire their own publicity firm from the million-dollar-plus retainer they received from their book publisher.

Why should taxpayers foot the bill for the disposition of this frivolous and baseless law suit? The costs will be considerable, encompassing the paid legal bureaucracy from the judge down to courtroom janitors.

ValJoe.........two cynical and amoral manipulators of the American social contract.

Leni

14 posted on 07/15/2006 2:51:09 AM PDT by MinuteGal ("We will fight them on the beaches, on the streets, in the radical mosques.....hasta la vista, baby")
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To: Republican Wildcat
Thanks for posting this, I had looked for it but could not find it. It seems the lamestream media has done its best to hide this address. Mitch pretty much said it all, didn't he--concisely and to the point!!

I had wanted these points so I could refute the stupid, insipid, and ultimately incorrect Democrap "talking point": "Bush lied and men died" BS. Thanks again.
15 posted on 07/15/2006 3:05:26 AM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: Republican Wildcat

ping


16 posted on 07/15/2006 3:13:09 AM PDT by pjsbro
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To: Lancey Howard

Bookmarked


17 posted on 07/15/2006 3:16:58 AM PDT by AmeriBrit (Spreading the truth - Doing the job the MSM won't do!)
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To: Lancey Howard

Looks like the Wilsons are another "Nigerian Scam"! How fitting, in a way.


18 posted on 07/15/2006 3:18:54 AM PDT by Waco
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To: Lancey Howard
Wonderful! Now I can go to bed with a little smile on my face for a change.

The following is for the PlameWilsons and their fans:

19 posted on 07/15/2006 3:26:00 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Lurker
That'll happen right after a gaggle of Howler Monkeys fly out of my nose.

Good thing you're waiting for a dem to apologize... Otherwise, that's gonna hurt!

Mark

20 posted on 07/15/2006 3:34:04 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos

You said: They'll probably try for a change of venue or a new judge. I'd love to see 'em get stuck with Bates though!
***

I don't think the plaintiffs can change venue, since they chose it in the first place. They COULD dismiss and refile, hoping for another judge, I guess.

As others have said, I think they just want the notoriety that this kind of case brings.


21 posted on 07/15/2006 3:35:41 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441
As others have said, I think they just want the notoriety that this kind of case brings.

Maybe they think their publicity will also help the Democrats in 2006. Joe Wilson is waaaaaayyyyy delusional and he thinks he is important enough to sway a bunch of congressional elections.

22 posted on 07/15/2006 3:55:47 AM PDT by Stepan12 (NY Times: Bush finds cure for cancer; healthcare workers to suffer massive layoffs)
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To: hershey

I donated 1 cent to them, on that site, using a creditcard. The transaction processing cost for them should be about 35 cents netting them a 34 cent loss for my donation. I'm more than willing to help them pick up some more donations like that so I encourage everyone to help with a penny. LOL


23 posted on 07/15/2006 4:15:40 AM PDT by SirFishalot
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To: Lancey Howard
Judge John D. Bates
24 posted on 07/15/2006 4:15:58 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: harpu

I think you posted the wrong link to Judge Bates. The link you provided shows a man named Beverly Rezneck.


25 posted on 07/15/2006 4:19:27 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Lancey Howard

The good judge is about to be vilified and slimed like nothing he's ever seen.


26 posted on 07/15/2006 4:24:05 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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To: All

This case will go down in flames faster than Monica did to Bill. :)


27 posted on 07/15/2006 4:24:18 AM PDT by The peoples DJ
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To: SirFishalot
I donated 1 cent to them, on that site, using a creditcard. The transaction processing cost for them should be about 35 cents netting them a 34 cent loss for my donation. I'm more than willing to help them pick up some more donations like that so I encourage everyone to help with a penny. LOL

What a 'flippin cheapskate you are! I donated .03.

I'm hoping I get on a junk mail mailing list with lots of prepaid mailing envelopes. I have got it down to a science on packing those envelopes with as much scrap paper as possible and sending back...

28 posted on 07/15/2006 4:27:11 AM PDT by Fury
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To: The peoples DJ

This sweet couple should be forced to pay ALL attorney fees when the case is thrown out.


29 posted on 07/15/2006 4:29:58 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: SirFishalot
I too just donated a penny to their worthless souls - what a great idea.

Here's the link for others who would like help their cause...Wilson/PlameSCAM

30 posted on 07/15/2006 4:31:23 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Fury

I like putting about a pound of lead sheeting in the envelope and dropping it in the mail. That has to cost them a nice wad of money. LOL


31 posted on 07/15/2006 4:31:52 AM PDT by SirFishalot
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To: harpu; SirFishalot; Fury

I love the idea, but I don't think I trust these slimeballs with my CC #.


32 posted on 07/15/2006 4:33:39 AM PDT by MSSC6644
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To: Fury

I know it's early but Beverly Rezneck is the photographer named by the photo of the good Judge. Duhhhhh!!!


33 posted on 07/15/2006 4:33:52 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: SirFishalot

Have you checked the price of lead, these days? :>)


34 posted on 07/15/2006 4:41:34 AM PDT by burroak
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Its also about getting money.


35 posted on 07/15/2006 4:43:38 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: Lion Den Dan

Bump


36 posted on 07/15/2006 4:47:13 AM PDT by GOP_Proud (“Mr. President, “Literary flair” is a fancy way of saying what ordinary people shooting the breeze o)
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To: Lancey Howard

It's so outrageous what these two liars along with the crony DBM/dems have tried to do to this President. When will America start to hold these filthy, lying, traitors accountable?


37 posted on 07/15/2006 4:48:00 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: GOP_Proud

bump


38 posted on 07/15/2006 4:52:50 AM PDT by GOP_Proud ("Literary flair” = "I lied". Lawsuit is zotted.)
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To: hershey

Nina Easton on the FoxNews panel of Brit's show last night, made sure to get that web address on air during her opportunities to talk.

She is far more leftist and RAT operative that Mara, IMO.


39 posted on 07/15/2006 4:57:08 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel.)
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To: MSSC6644
Be assured, their SCAM request for money is on the up'n up.

From the donation page...

"All contributions will be deposited with the trustees of The Joseph and Valerie Wilson Legal Support Trust, and will be disbursed as needed to pay the legal team representing the Wilsons. There are no contribution limits and contributions are not tax deductible. Contributions up to $12,000 are not subject to gift tax. You should consult your own personal tax advisors regarding any other potential gift tax consequences."

40 posted on 07/15/2006 5:07:34 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: driftdiver

Old liberals never die...they just litigate 4 ever.


41 posted on 07/15/2006 5:19:44 AM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: carumba
This is about giving the D.C. dems some kind of talking point till the mid-term elections.

What fools!

42 posted on 07/15/2006 5:32:17 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: hershey

The Pflames were honored guests at a senate democrat function the other day.


43 posted on 07/15/2006 5:34:30 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Waco

Chris Wallace will be helping them with their scam. He's going to be disucssing their lawsuit on FNC this Sunday.


44 posted on 07/15/2006 5:35:28 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

......The suit is about publicity.....

And this judge will add to the publicity when he throws it out


45 posted on 07/15/2006 5:36:54 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: OldFriend
The Pflames were honored guests at a senate democrat function the other day.

I wish that we could find out the names of the dems in attendance. I would love to know who in the party is willing to align themselves with a proven liar.

46 posted on 07/15/2006 5:53:08 AM PDT by Bahbah (Democrat Motto: Why not the worst)
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To: All

Mark is now on the Plame lawsuit.


47 posted on 07/15/2006 5:55:59 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (NY Slimes the paper of record for OBL!)
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To: Bahbah
I saw a short clip of them in the US Capitol. It was made clear in the report that they were honored guests of the dems.

Since I do so much channel surfing I'm not sure where I saw the story. Probably on FNC.

48 posted on 07/15/2006 6:02:02 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: OldFriend

Brit Hume called the meeting a 'policy' meeting. So maybe they held an auction, highest bid gets to use their civil suit media coverage for upcoming election.


49 posted on 07/15/2006 6:06:17 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: SirFishalot
"I donated 1 cent to them, on that site, using a creditcard."

I'd prefer sending them a penny in t he mail. No way I want known scammers having access to my credit card info.

50 posted on 07/15/2006 6:25:37 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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