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Navy was unaware of missile threat
ynetnews.com ^ | 7/15/2006 | Hanan Greenberg

Posted on 07/15/2006 1:58:15 PM PDT by Woodstock

Initial probe into attack on missile boat Friday reveals Navy had no intelligence of possible missile threat in area where boat was operating; missile, aircraft interception system has been turned off due to presence of IDF planes in sector

The actions taken by crewmembers of the IDF missile boat that sustained a direct Hizbullah missile hit Friday, prevented a great disaster that could have resulted in numerous casualties, an initial inquiry into the incident reveals.

Boat Attacked

Sailor killed at sea / Tova Dadon

Shortly after deadly attack on Navy ship operating off Beirut shores, Amgar family of Ashdod informed their son is okay; next phone call bears different news: Soldier, who was so fond of sea, is missing. His body recovered Saturday

Brigadier-General Noam Page of the Navy said in a press conference Saturday that the Navy was unaware that a missile threat existed in the sector, and that the boat's crew had acted accordingly.

Missile boats are equipped with a missile interception system capable of automatically intercepting any missile or aircraft approaching it. However, as the boat was operating in an area where a large number of IDF planes were present, the Navy had refrained from activating the system.

Navy sources said that had they known the Hizbullah was in possession of missiles of the type used against the boat Saturday, the missile interception system would have been turned on.

‘We’ve been hit’

The initial investigation revealed that at 8:45 p.m. crewmembers on board the vessel were preparing for Shabbat dinner when a loud blat was heard. One of the ship’s commanders has informed the Navy’s control command: “We’ve been hit.” In the first few minutes after the strike, it was unclear what hit the boat, and the sailors concentrated on extinguishing the fire that broke out at the landing pad after 50 kilograms of explosives penetrated the vessel’s body.

Large Navy and Air Force units were dispatched to the place and began assisting the forces on board the boat.

Simultaneously, the crew conducted a damage control routine aimed at establishing what systems sustained damages in the attack. At the first stage it was decided to pull the boat away from its position using another boat, and at the same time to surround it with additional crafts in order to protect it from being hit again.

A senior Navy official said Saturday that the fire on board has repeatedly erupted after being extinguished as a result of the heat absorbed by metal objects on the boat. Only after the crew managed to contain the fire and tend to the damages it was discovered that four sailors were missing.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; israelinavy
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1 posted on 07/15/2006 1:58:17 PM PDT by Woodstock
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To: Jeff Head

*ping*


2 posted on 07/15/2006 1:58:53 PM PDT by Woodstock (: >)
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To: Woodstock
Initial probe into attack on missile boat Friday reveals Navy had no intelligence of possible missile threat in area where boat was operating; missile, aircraft interception system has been turned off due to presence of IDF planes in sector

Ooopseee!

3 posted on 07/15/2006 1:59:42 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Woodstock

It won't happen again. IDF will be prepared next time.

Hezbulloh had one shot with this.


4 posted on 07/15/2006 2:00:29 PM PDT by mgstarr
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To: Jeff Head

check this out


5 posted on 07/15/2006 2:00:35 PM PDT by TWfromTEXAS
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To: Woodstock

The Iranians are Israel's principle enemey. Hezbollah is the Iranian surrogate. The Iranians have had the C-802 for a long time. I do not buy this...and of they did not prepare for potential missile engagement while in combat off the Lebannon coast against Hezbollah, it was a critical and fatal mistake.


6 posted on 07/15/2006 2:01:42 PM PDT by Jeff Head (God, family, country)
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To: Jeff Head

..it was a critical and fatal mistake.

For one captain and 4 sailors it sure was!


7 posted on 07/15/2006 2:03:46 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: TWfromTEXAS

Inexcusable IMHO...tends to confirm that their missile detection and wanring systems were not on. I hope this is not the case...but this is simply amaziong and inexcusable if true. Will wait for more official word.


8 posted on 07/15/2006 2:04:07 PM PDT by Jeff Head (God, family, country)
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To: Woodstock

oops forgot to turn the radar on.... my bad.
wtf? a ship designed for precisely this type of action not readied for this type of action?


9 posted on 07/15/2006 2:05:33 PM PDT by pipecorp (Al Lahsucks coxswain hell)
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To: Jeff Head

Sometimes the digital message traffic to/from the CMS gets in the way.


10 posted on 07/15/2006 2:07:01 PM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: mgstarr

That's the kind of stuff that happens when somebody at the top has their head up their a$$.


11 posted on 07/15/2006 2:07:33 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: mgstarr

THis story is bad OPSEC. If it is true Israel was unready, best thing to do is not tell, let the Iranians/Hezbullah think they're golden, sail the boats in so the bad guys fire the missles up, locate the firing points, take the missles down and let the IAF get the launch points. Maybe even some commandows to find the Iranian bodies afterwards. That would be smart.


12 posted on 07/15/2006 2:07:56 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: CatoRenasci

Seemed that way to me. Hope there's some reason for it.


13 posted on 07/15/2006 2:10:23 PM PDT by Gondring (If "Conservatives" now want to "conserve" our Constitution away, then I must be a Preservative!)
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To: Jeff Head

Jeff, one othrt interesting point..the next generation of US Navy DDE's and missile frigates have greatly reduced crews. Supposedly the damage control systems are "automated"..I suspect that when they do a detailed analysis of the heroic job done by the Israeli crew, a few senior US admirals are in for a rude awakening. If the Israeli ship had been manned at the proposed US levels, I suspect it would be at the bottom now..


14 posted on 07/15/2006 2:10:24 PM PDT by ken5050 (GWB, Reagan, Thatcher, Pope John Paul II, freed hundreds of millions.# of Nobel PeacePrizes: ZERO)
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To: Woodstock

Israel's Navy leaves something to be desired.


15 posted on 07/15/2006 2:11:41 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Woodstock
Initial probe into attack on missile boat Friday reveals Navy had no intelligence of possible missile threat in area where boat was operating; missile, aircraft interception system has been turned off due to presence of IDF planes in sector

If they are going to use that lameass excuse, they better worry if theres a submarine in the area!

16 posted on 07/15/2006 2:13:01 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: pipecorp
Missile boats are equipped with a missile interception system capable of automatically intercepting any missile or aircraft approaching it. However, as the boat was operating in an area where a large number of IDF planes were present, the Navy had refrained from activating the system.

A bigger oops would have been if the system was activated and started shooting down IDF planes. Another Freeper noted that the ship may have been operating to close to shore to be effective for its designated role.

17 posted on 07/15/2006 2:13:27 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup (Iran IS the great Satan.)
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To: Woodstock

I read it was not a UAV but a c-802 antiship cruisemissile

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/c-802.htm


18 posted on 07/15/2006 2:14:14 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Jeff Head
" do not buy this...and of they did not prepare for potential missile engagement while in combat off the Lebannon coast against Hezbollah, it was a critical and fatal mistake."

Remember Billy Jeff's 1st SecDef. Les Aspin or the 2nd William Perry or the 3rd William Cohen?
Each and every one made similar mistakes and forced their mistakes on the military!

And think, Israel have been governed by the socialist appeasement party for some years! Contamination of institutions happens.
19 posted on 07/15/2006 2:15:11 PM PDT by Prost1 (We can build a wall, we can evict - "Si, se puede!")
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To: pipecorp
Is this possible ?

oops forgot to turn the radar on.... my bad.

20 posted on 07/15/2006 2:17:42 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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