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The Real Agenda [NY Slimes Barf Alert]
NY Times ^ | 7/16/06 | NYT Editorial Board

Posted on 07/16/2006 4:03:32 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

It is only now, nearly five years after Sept. 11, that the full picture of the Bush administration’s response to the terror attacks is becoming clear. Much of it, we can see now, had far less to do with fighting Osama bin Laden than with expanding presidential power.

Over and over again, the same pattern emerges: Given a choice between following the rules or carving out some unprecedented executive power, the White House always shrugged off the legal constraints. Even when the only challenge was to get required approval from an ever-cooperative Congress, the president and his staff preferred to go it alone. While no one questions the determination of the White House to fight terrorism, the methods this administration has used to do it have been shaped by another, perverse determination: never to consult, never to ask and always to fight against any constraint on the executive branch.

One result has been a frayed democratic fabric in a country founded on a constitutional system of checks and balances. Another has been a less effective war on terror.

The Guantánamo Bay Prison

This whole sorry story has been on vivid display since the Supreme Court ruled that the Geneva Conventions and United States law both applied to the Guantánamo Bay detention camp. For one brief, shining moment, it appeared that the administration realized it had met a check that it could not simply ignore. The White House sent out signals that the president was ready to work with Congress in creating a proper procedure for trying the hundreds of men who have spent years now locked up as suspected terrorists without any hope of due process.

But by week’s end it was clear that the president’s idea of cooperation was purely cosmetic.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4thestate5thcolumn; barfalert; bush; enemedia; gramsci; newyorkslimes; nyt; partyoftreason; pukingnytimes; rats; scum; treasontimes; trysellingthetruth
A purely delusional piece from a paper that still tries to pretend that its opinions matter.
1 posted on 07/16/2006 4:03:34 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Does the NY Times editorial board ever look away from it's collective belly-button?
2 posted on 07/16/2006 4:05:34 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

"Stroke of the pen, law of the land" worker for Prez. Klinton and her husband. Live with it NYT.


3 posted on 07/16/2006 4:07:02 AM PDT by Waco
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

IMO the NYTimes needs to be sued by relatives of dead soldiers since they helped the enemy and contributed to their deaths.

4 posted on 07/16/2006 4:07:52 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Delusional?

More like hallucinatory.


5 posted on 07/16/2006 4:10:24 AM PDT by QwertyKPH (I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

don't you just love those early sunday morning al-jazeera press releases.


6 posted on 07/16/2006 4:11:20 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Ever cooperative congress?


7 posted on 07/16/2006 4:15:02 AM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
It is only now, nearly five years after Sept. 11, that the full picture of the Bush administration’s response to the terror attacks is becoming clear. Much of it, we can see now, had far less to do with fighting Osama bin Laden than with expanding presidential power.

MUWAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

While no one questions the determination of the White House to fight terrorism

How is this statement compatible with that opening? You began by saying Bush's priority was expanding presidential power.

Of course we always like to bash the NYT, but they are steering very close to "Loose Change" territory. Before the election they will have an editorial titled "Disturbing 9-11 Questions That Won't Go Away." Their credibility is evaporating rapidly even among non-DU democrats with this hysterical caterwauling.

They are really, REALLY P.O.'d about the complaints about their blowing our terror-fighting secrets.

8 posted on 07/16/2006 4:15:18 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (http://www.savethesoldiers.com/)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Much of it, we can see now, had far less to do with fighting Osama bin Laden than with expanding presidential power.

Now that the world is on the verge of WW III, they publish this garbage?

The New York Times is exhibiting the behavior of an alcoholic who has been forced to go to rehab, and refuses to admit reality at any cost.


9 posted on 07/16/2006 4:15:51 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

9/11 never happened.

Nuts.


10 posted on 07/16/2006 4:17:37 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Mr Burns of the Simpsons would describe them as becoming more and more "impotent as a Nevada boxing commissioner"


11 posted on 07/16/2006 4:21:35 AM PDT by generalhammond
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To: SkyPilot

I don't even read their entire headlines anymore. Everytime I see NYT, I go on to the next article. They can blab until they're blue in the face, but they've blown it big time in the Big Apple and have become the anus of the newsmedia.


12 posted on 07/16/2006 4:22:16 AM PDT by Pine Mtn. Maverick
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

We need that picture "Not that Sh!t again"


13 posted on 07/16/2006 4:23:05 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

the full picture of the Bush administration’s response to the terror attacks is becoming clear.

Yes it is, our President is doing every thing that he can to protect us and the liberals that hate America are trying to tie his hands.


14 posted on 07/16/2006 4:24:46 AM PDT by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

"procedure for trying the hundreds of men who have spent years now locked up as suspected terrorists without any hope of due process."

This is factually wrong.

Dozens - not hundreds - of "trials" are being entertained, and those are for specific war crimes.

The rest are considered POWs and will remain under lock and key for as long as the military decides they should. They will not get trials of any knd.


15 posted on 07/16/2006 4:26:28 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
lgf has a thread about a nyt photog who was in the same room while a scumbag insurgent sniper aimed at Coalition forces positioned nearby

His manager described this treasonous act as: incredible courage.

16 posted on 07/16/2006 4:29:39 AM PDT by Ludicrous
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
The New York Times is run by a bunch of anti-American left wingers who worship Hitler and Stalin. They are responsible for the death of many American military and Iraqi civilians and if we have another attack in the country that are one of the principle helpers of the Islamic terrorist.

They are scum of the worst kind and should be in jail. Anyone who subscribes to or advertised in their paper help the terrorist.
17 posted on 07/16/2006 4:29:41 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: gotribe

You took the words right out of my mouth! What about "ever obstructionist Senate"?


18 posted on 07/16/2006 4:29:50 AM PDT by srmorton
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To: QwertyKPH

Is the transformation to the Moonbat Times complete yet? The odd flash of sanity say in the crossword throws you on occasion.


19 posted on 07/16/2006 4:39:25 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The mantra of the LEFT is, 'he who controls the language controls the argument.'


20 posted on 07/16/2006 4:43:30 AM PDT by pyx (Rule #1. The LEFT lies. Rule #2. See Rule #1.)
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To: Ludicrous

He should be arrested.
At the very least, he should be refused entry into the U.S. (bio says he lives in S. Africa)


21 posted on 07/16/2006 5:11:24 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Over and over again, the same pattern emerges: Given a choice between following the rules or carving out some unprecedented executive power, the White House always shrugged off the legal constraints.

O, to fathom the state of being ignorant of history and the law.
22 posted on 07/16/2006 5:26:07 AM PDT by Lord Basil (Hate isn't a family value; it's a liberal one.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
It is only now, nearly five years after Sept. 11, that the full picture of the Bush administration’s response to the terror attacks is becoming clear. Much of it, we can see now, had far less to do with fighting Osama bin Laden than with expanding presidential power.

Pure liberal projection. That's what Slick would be doing if 9/11 had happened on his watch.

23 posted on 07/16/2006 5:28:02 AM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
What amazes me is that the NY Times has never even once in the last 30 years considered that the presidential powers deemed constitutional for 200 years and lost in the mid '70s are in error and the problem.  If one is to claim that expanding presidential powers is wrong doesn't one necessarily have to test the hypothesis that it may be right?  Was the United States stronger before the '70s or since then? Are we better off with one elected person  making these tough decisions or 535 conceited fools, only 3 of whom any one person can vote for/against (unless you are a Chicago Democrat) or a nationally known and elected executive?  Should foreign policy be in the hands of a John Kerry, William Jefferson, Patrick Leahy or Carl Levin or the Executive Administration that can attract the best and the brightest for it's staff?

 

24 posted on 07/16/2006 5:31:41 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: nuconvert

This paper once held in respect for its coverage of world events now has an agenda of two things, constantly bash President Bush's war on terror any way possible and make gay marriage legal.once known as 'the gray old lady' has become 'THE GAY OLD LADDIE'and 'The Terrorist Guide to Winning'.


25 posted on 07/16/2006 5:39:04 AM PDT by Maumee
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Where was the NY Slimes when 18 of Clinton's executive priviledges had to be bought forth before the US Supreme Court for rulings in order to keep his butt from impeachment? All 18 of these were power grabs!


26 posted on 07/16/2006 5:52:37 AM PDT by moonman (`)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Well if anyone had any doubt before the Editors of the Time just made it clear they are the active allies of the Terrorists. It was NOT mistaken judgment or a difference of opinion, they are knowing working for Al Qeda.


27 posted on 07/16/2006 6:17:49 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: moonman

Hey NYT...STFU...if you know what I mean!...In Thai / Laos..Jaw Saul Wow!!!!!!!


28 posted on 07/16/2006 6:20:32 AM PDT by ldish (God save the USA)
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To: MNJohnnie
Yep...this makes it official, imho. The NYT has chosen sides in this war and they side with our enemy.

The photo spread compliments the sentiment nicely.

29 posted on 07/16/2006 6:25:50 AM PDT by chiller (every time we call MSM "mainstream" we confirm their status. "Drive-by" is working nicely.)
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To: chiller

I use to be uncomfortable when any Conservative started calling anyone on the other side a "traitor" simply because they disagreed with us. However the conduct of the Political Leftists in the last couple of years has changed my mind completely. Their conduct goes beyond merely having a different political opinion or playing tought politics. They are knowingly, and willinglyg, giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the USA.


30 posted on 07/16/2006 6:32:30 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
They can't imagine that there are good people in positions of power that genuinely care about defeating evil, doing what is right, and not just using their positions for self-centered purposes. What a bunch of pathetic scumbags!
31 posted on 07/16/2006 6:44:41 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
I was amazed and frankly appalled by Ollie North's piece last Fri "The Summer of Our Discontent" where he offered red meat to the rabid leftist sufferers of Bush Derangement Syndrome by implicitly comparing GW Bush to the infamously evil Richard III:

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- According to William Shakespeare, King Richard III proclaimed that winter was the season of troubles. But that was 1482 -- and this is 2006. For us, it's a summer of discontent. If one is to believe the so-called mainstream media, compared to the challenges facing George W. Bush, England's last Plantagenet had it easy.
History documents that Richard's reign was marked by internal rebellion, treachery, betrayal, external threats and war. The king, abandoned by his feckless friends, met what his detractors describe as a well-deserved end in the bloody battle of Bosworth Field. Those who chronicle current events are now forecasting a similar -- though perhaps less sanguinary -- demise for President Bush. With great glee, the potentates of the press point to a growing list of hot-spots, calamities and crises -- and prognosticate gloom and doom:

I really cannot understand just what North was trying to do.
IMHO Making any comparison of Bush to England's most evil monarch in any well meaning reference does nothing to help Bush's (or our) cause. I can only add fuel to the burning desire of anti-bushites to see Bush in the most negative light.

32 posted on 07/16/2006 6:47:43 AM PDT by auzerais (Congress is the only whorehouse in America that loses money)
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To: auzerais

"If one is to believe the so-called mainstream media,..."


33 posted on 07/16/2006 6:53:16 AM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: Ludicrous

Well, if he lives in SA, I guess hes a third party. But I pretty much agree that he should be denied entry to the US!


34 posted on 07/16/2006 7:00:22 AM PDT by ketelone
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To: generalhammond

Very good. I noticed the post about the Times never looking up from its belly button, but I don't really think that's the organ they're concentrating on........


35 posted on 07/16/2006 7:11:12 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: generalhammond

And, yes, I know the belly button isn't considered an organ, humor me? LOL!


36 posted on 07/16/2006 7:11:58 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Not bothering to read that crap. What is the REAL agenda of the NYTimes?


37 posted on 07/16/2006 7:48:20 AM PDT by Gimme
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Much of it, we can see now, had far less to do with fighting [Hitler] than with expanding presidential power.

Over and over again, the same pattern emerges: Given a choice between following the rules or carving out some unprecedented executive power, the White House always shrugged off the legal constraints. Even when the only challenge was to get required approval from an ever-cooperative Congress, the president and his staff preferred to go it alone. While no one questions the determination of the White House to fight terrorism, the methods this administration has used to do it have been shaped by another, perverse determination: never to consult, never to ask and always to fight against any constraint on the executive branch.

By changing one word, we can recast this screed's perspective, and show the Times for the partisan propagandists they are. Because you sure didn't notice any articles condemning Roosevelt for his clearly (and formally) unconstitutional expansion of executive powers during WWII and the Depression. Yet George Bush, faced with a far more shadowy war being fought on our home turf, is painted as a Machiavellian schemer manipulating his way to tyranny.

When the Times loses its absorbency, it will have lost its only reason for existing.

38 posted on 07/16/2006 8:19:38 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: MNJohnnie
I use to be uncomfortable when any Conservative started calling anyone on the other side a "traitor" simply because they disagreed with us. However the conduct of the Political Leftists in the last couple of years has changed my mind completely.

They have been at it for close to 40 years, longer really. Search Ramsey Clark, Medea (Susie) Benjamin, Gael Murphy, Leslie Cagen, Noam Chomsky, Daniel Ellsberg, john F kerry, Tom Hayden and his ex-wife Janey Fonda...they just changed tactics and or organizations.

39 posted on 07/16/2006 10:35:51 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Yeah, like anyone cares about the opinion of a rag whose REAL AGENDA is treason.

Go hire some more stringers who cheerlead for Iraqi "insurgent" snipers that are targeting American boys and girls, New York Times.

40 posted on 07/16/2006 12:29:09 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

What utter bullshite.


41 posted on 07/16/2006 12:38:45 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom; All

Au contraire, NYT. If anything, our courageous President
has gone overboard in doing everything legally--he's not
about to give the Left any reason to impeach him.


42 posted on 07/16/2006 12:56:05 PM PDT by DCMB (Bless GWB and all our troops)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
"Over and over again, the same pattern emerges: Given a choice between following the rules or carving out some unprecedented executive power, the White House always shrugged off the legal constraints."

"We here at the NY Times just can't name any specific examples...so we'll **allude** to things going on behind the scenes so that your imagination might infer Bush Administration rule-breaking at places like Gitmo. Then we'll openly break national security laws by publishing legal, top secret homeland defense programs."

43 posted on 07/16/2006 1:01:33 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: HawaiianGecko
"Are we better off with one elected person making these tough decisions or 535 conceited fools, only 3 of whom any one person can vote for/against (unless you are a Chicago Democrat) or a nationally known and elected executive?"

That's factually incorrect. In Chicago, you only get to vote for three candidates, you just get to vote for them lots of times. Also, you can vote post mortem. Same in New Jersey.

44 posted on 07/16/2006 5:48:01 PM PDT by sig226 (There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who do not.)
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