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To: BigFinn

My husband is a naturalized citizen (he was Canadian but was naturalized in his mid 40's.)

Anyhoo, it is my understanding that the US does not recognize Dual Citizenship. When my husband took his "oath", he in effect, renounced his Canadian citizenship.

However, these requirements differ from country to country, so in Canada he may be viewed as a dual citizen, but from the standpoint of the American government, he does not have dual citizenship.

Makes you wonder about the circumstances of these Lebanese claiming to have "dual citizenship."


33 posted on 07/18/2006 11:23:24 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53
Anyhoo, it is my understanding that the US does not recognize Dual Citizenship. When my husband took his "oath", he in effect, renounced his Canadian citizenship.

Essentially it's determined by the laws of the "other" country, not the US. I believe Canada would consider your husband a Canadian citizen unless he took action in Canada to renounce his citizenship, if he can. If that's true, in the context of an article like this he'd hold dual citizenship. Same with an American going to Canada. Becoming a Canadian citizen doesn't constitute a renouncement of American citizenship. The draft dodgers of the 60s-70s would have loved that. I suspect a lot of these people consider themselves Lebanese.

41 posted on 07/18/2006 11:34:11 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: dawn53
The U.S. does not "recognize" dual citizenship, but it has never forced people to give up their U.S. citizenship when obtaining citizenship elsewhere. If your husband had been a U.S. citizen first and decided to seek Canadian citizenship, he would have effectively been a dual citizen regardless of what the U.S. said.

There's also the issue of people who are dual citizens by birth (i.e., they meet the legal requirements for citizenship in two countries simply because of where they were born and the nationalities of their parents).

42 posted on 07/18/2006 11:36:16 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: dawn53
Anyhoo, it is my understanding that the US does not recognize Dual Citizenship.

FOX said yesterday that any American evacuations were not going to recognize dual citizenship.

55 posted on 07/18/2006 11:53:48 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: dawn53
Anchor babies are Americans & never have to take any oath. Their parents countries may also consider these children citizens. Depending on the country, whether it's a signer to the Hague Convention or not, some dual citizenship's are recognized by the US. Typically, it only comes up in custody cases.
57 posted on 07/18/2006 11:56:16 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: dawn53
While it is true the US requires someone who is naturalized to renounce his foreign citizenship, there are a number of ways to gain dual citizenship:

1) You are born in the US to foreign parents. You are a citizen of the US and your parents' country (jus soli).

2) You are born outside the US but at least one of your parents is a US citizen.

3) You become a naturalized American citizen, but the other country doesn't recognize your relinquishment of citizenship in that country. Just because your husband doesn't consider himself Canadian, the government of Canada might still consider him Canadian. Therefore he does have dual citizenship according to Canada, if not the US.

4) A person can be naturalized in the US but regain his or her foreign citizenship. The US does not automatically yank American citizenship status. They have the right to, but at this time do not.

Finally, there could be many people who have US citizen children and/or who are resident aliens who use the term "dual citizen" colloquially, meaning that they are residents of the US, but not citizens. Also, this number is being tossed around by the MSM, but perhaps it is a bit inflated to give the talking heads an impressive sounding number to gush and wring their hands about. I also heard the number 5000 tossed about which seems to represent the number of Americans who actually are seeking to get out of Lebanon.
68 posted on 07/18/2006 12:24:18 PM PDT by GatorGirl
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To: dawn53
Anyhoo, it is my understanding that the US does not recognize Dual Citizenship. When my husband took his "oath", he in effect, renounced his Canadian citizenship.

Dawn, and FReepers, here's the state of dual citizenship law: once it was banned. You were an American, period, or you were something else.

Now if you are entitled to US citizenship and entitled also to foreign citizenship by birthright, you may claim that citizenship. This came about because of Jews who want to have both Israeli and US citizenship, and have a strong voice in Congress. They wanted the change because anti-Semites in the USA could make it hard for someone who served in a foreign military or political office, for instance, under the old Neutrality Act.

Put the irony is, this law that was meant to accommodate these Jews who pose no imaginable threat to the USA, of course applies equally to all. Mexico recently permitted its diaspora to claim citizenship. Irish can do it as long as the Irish ancestor is within three generations. And many third-worldian hellholes let their citizens take US citizenship while retaining loyalties to the home turf -- Lebanon, for instance.

Schulssel is certainly wrong to imply that all the dual citizens are Hezbollah fans, or that all the Americans stranded are dual citizens. But the time is long past to end the dual citizenship charade. You're an American, or you ain't. When I hear "dusl citizen" I immediately process it as "disloyal" -- Shia, Christian, Jewish, Lebanese, Mexican, Israeli, it doesn't matter, pick up another passport and your loyalty to the US is compromised.

If you guys think this NEO is a nightmare, imagine what Tel Aviv would be like, if the Israelis lose. How many dual citizens in Israel? A million?

And they'd all come here and immmediately start voting for left-wing Democrats. Therefore it is strongly in the US national interest that Israel win its wars.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

92 posted on 07/18/2006 2:01:04 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (America has no native criminal class, apart from Congress -- Mark Twain)
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To: dawn53

I think the law has been changed. I've read it before, IIRC, on the State Dept website...


118 posted on 07/18/2006 5:49:27 PM PDT by PghBaldy (I'm sick of the media leaks & lies. God Bless America.)
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