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Congress Appropriates Zero Dollars for Border Security Fence
Intellectual Conservative ^ | July 17, 2006 | Jim Kouri

Posted on 07/18/2006 1:09:27 PM PDT by Founding Father

Getting tough on immigration apparently means refusing to provide funds for programs that have already been approved.

When the immigration issue was at the boiling point in the spring, the US Senate voted to erect a mere 370 miles of security fencing along the US-Mexican border. However, last week many of the same senators voted against providing funds to build it.

"We do a lot of talking. We do a lot of legislating," said Senator Jeff Sessions, the Alabama Republican whose amendment to fund the fence was killed on a 71-29 vote. "The things we do often sound very good, but we never quite get there," he told the Washington Times.

Sessions submitted his amendment to the Homeland Security Appropriations bill that would have authorized $1.8 billion to build the security fence as promised by the lawmakers and the Bush Administration. Two months ago members of the Senate voted 83-16 to build the fence along high-traffic areas of the border with Mexico. In the same vote on May 17, the Senate also directed 500 miles of vehicle barriers to be built along the border, as well.

But the May vote only authorized the fencing and vehicle barriers, and while the senators are on record as voting for border fencing and barriers, without the appropriations they've voted not to build the fence they've authorized.

"If we never appropriate the money needed to construct these miles of fencing and vehicle barriers, those miles of fencing and vehicle barriers will never actually be constructed," Mr. Sessions said on the floor of the Senate just prior to the vote, which was aired on C-SPAN, but not by any of the broadcast or cable news shows.

Democrats were joined by 28 Republicans in opposing the Sessions amendment to the Homeland Security Appropriations Act. Senators Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Thomas R. Carper of Delaware were the only two Democrats who voted for funding the fence.

The senators — including most of the Republican leadership — voted in May to build the fence but last week opposed funding it.

The appropriations bill, which allocates over $30 billion to the Homeland Security Department — which includes $2.2 billion for border security and control but no fencing –passed on a 100-0 vote.

Republican Senator Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, who in the past has fought to increase border security and enforcement of federal immigration laws, opposed Senator Session's amendment.

"We should build these walls; there's no question about it. But the real issue here is the offset that's being used, and the offset creates a Hobson's choice for almost everyone here," Greg told the Washington Post.

Mr. Session's amendment would have required across-the-board cuts to the rest of the Homeland Security appropriations bill, Mr. Gregg said, which would mean cutting 750 new border-patrol agents and 1,200 new detention beds for illegal aliens that he included in the bill.

"Once again we see our government officials trying to provide security-on-the-cheap. Americans should be outraged," said a Border Patrol agent, who wishes to remain anonymous.

"Did anyone really believe these guys [senators] want to secure the border?" he said.

Another Border Patrol agent was less diplomatic: "Our leaders are not serious about border security. A few hundred more agents is a far cry from what they promised. It's a con-job on the American people."


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; appropriations; borderfence; borders; bushamnesty; congress; donothingcongress; federalspending; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationlist; invasionusa; nationalsecurity; senate
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Maybe the Senate knows best after all. What could be better than an imaginary fence to keep out imaginary terrorists that are crossing our imaginary borders.
1 posted on 07/18/2006 1:09:29 PM PDT by Founding Father
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To: Founding Father

Gee, they're spending $$ for everything else.


2 posted on 07/18/2006 1:10:10 PM PDT by proud_yank (If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free.)
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To: Founding Father
shades of Alice in WonderLand Washington
3 posted on 07/18/2006 1:11:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --- Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: Founding Father

"Big talk little do" is all that we can expect from these jerkoffs from h*ll. However, opening up social security to illegals is something all these so-called congressional members understand.


4 posted on 07/18/2006 1:14:42 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Founding Father
"It's a con-job on the American people."

Roger that!

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

5 posted on 07/18/2006 1:15:21 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: blackie

Yes, and physically run the Congresscritters out of thier offices.


6 posted on 07/18/2006 1:17:39 PM PDT by brushcop (Lt. Harris, SFC Salie, CPL Long, SPC Hornbeck, B-Co, 2/69 3ID We will remember you always.)
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To: Founding Father
Ahhh, Senator Gregg. If you build the fence, you don't need the beds. Sheesh.
7 posted on 07/18/2006 1:19:11 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (There are only a few absolute truths in life, everything else is just an opinion.)
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To: Founding Father
What could be better than an imaginary fence to keep out imaginary terrorists that are crossing our imaginary borders.

See my tagline. Outrageous, isn't it?

Did anyone really believe these guys [senators] want to secure the border?" he said.

No, but I can't believe they're so blatant about it.

8 posted on 07/18/2006 1:19:54 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Founding Father

They voted for the fence before they voted against it.

Does that sound familar????????


9 posted on 07/18/2006 1:20:23 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Founding Father

I think that if they would add a $1 option to the end of the tax return, that ALOT of people would chip in ... and they would get a small measure of how important this is the voters and tax payers.


10 posted on 07/18/2006 1:21:28 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Founding Father

Typical of Congress. They vote for something to get cheers from their base, then never fund it. Usually the lack of funding doesn't get nearly the press as the original vote.

And so it goes.


11 posted on 07/18/2006 1:21:30 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: taxcontrol
I think that if they would add a $1 option to the end of the tax return, that ALOT of people would chip in

I would.
12 posted on 07/18/2006 1:22:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: MineralMan

"Momma said it's a magic fence to keep out make-believe Mexicans."
Senator Forrest Gump, Foggy Bottom


13 posted on 07/18/2006 1:24:06 PM PDT by tumblindice (Nuke their a**, take their gas)
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Maybe someone on this thread can explain how or why they would apprpriate the money for legislation that has not been enacted?


14 posted on 07/18/2006 1:30:57 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Founding Father
Democrats were joined by 28 Republicans in opposing the Sessions amendment to the Homeland Security Appropriations Act.

28 RINOs need new jobs in their next election cycle, whether it be '06 or later.

Real conservatives need grassroots support in the primary season, because the 'leadership' of the party never back them against a RINO.

Never.

15 posted on 07/18/2006 1:33:09 PM PDT by JOAT
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To: Ben Ficklin
Maybe someone on this thread can explain how or why they would apprpriate the money for legislation that has not been enacted?

Maybe someone on this thread can explain how or why they would pass legislation promising border barriers for which they never intended to appropriate funds?

16 posted on 07/18/2006 1:33:39 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Founding Father; SandRat; LucyT; Calpernia; Rushmore Rocks

Does anyone know the names of those who voted against the money for the fence?

We must be very careful who we vote for in the next election.


17 posted on 07/18/2006 1:33:43 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (God gives us one day of life at a time..Is he proud of his gift to you this day?)
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To: Founding Father
"We do a lot of talking. We do a lot of legislating," said Senator Jeff Sessions, the Alabama Republican whose amendment to fund the fence was killed on a 71-29 vote. "The things we do often sound very good, but we never quite get there," he told the Washington Times.

71-29 - the "gop leadership" has shown exactly where its loyalty lies.

It's not US.

18 posted on 07/18/2006 1:33:47 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (It's about the People Who Count the Votes................. - Wally O'Dell)
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To: Founding Father
Well what do you expect? Professional politicians who know the majority of Americans aren't paying attention any longer.

The Republic is really sinking fast.

19 posted on 07/18/2006 1:34:54 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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To: Spiff
Like duh, man. The Senate passed a bill. The legislation was never enacted because the House decided to have hearings.

Get the House to pass the the Senate bill and then you will get the money.

20 posted on 07/18/2006 1:36:58 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Does anyone know the names of those who voted against the money for the fence?

Seriously, for frist to allow this vote, knowing the outcome (the outcome is known 99% before any vote is taken) demonstrates that the gop leadership has made its commitment.

The individual senators are certainly responsible, but make no mistake - the gop has chosen its position.

21 posted on 07/18/2006 1:39:48 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (It's about the People Who Count the Votes................. - Wally O'Dell)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


22 posted on 07/18/2006 1:40:49 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: brushcop

A good house cleaning is appropriate and way past due!


23 posted on 07/18/2006 1:41:43 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Founding Father

$50,000,000 for the Paleo-stinians, but nothing for our borders.


24 posted on 07/18/2006 1:42:05 PM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: D-Chivas; Cedar; MamaDearest; WestCoastGal; all4one; Oorang; Smartass; JustPiper; ExSoldier; ...
$50,000,000 for the Paleo-stinians, but nothing for our borders.

Another Border Patrol agent was less diplomatic: "Our leaders are not serious about border security. A few hundred more agents is a far cry from what they promised. It's a con-job on the American people."

25 posted on 07/18/2006 1:48:32 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: WhiteGuy

Seriously, for frist to allow this vote, knowing the outcome (the outcome is known 99% before any vote is taken)



I can't wait for November just to get rid of him!!! Every vote he has put up has been turned down. I think he is trying to make the GOP look bad because he knows he is done. I firmly believe he is the worst Senate Majority Leader I have known in my life time. For the last two years he has done nothing and then this year he is putting up failing bills. He stinks!!!! I hope he is better at performing operations.


26 posted on 07/18/2006 1:52:13 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: LucyT

How many Billions to defend the borders of Iraq every year? World war 3 ! What a joke.


27 posted on 07/18/2006 1:55:21 PM PDT by fantom
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To: Founding Father
This was probably the whole reason for the ridiculous Senate version immigration reform. The employers who are now utterly dependent on illegal labor demand that that labor remain plentiful and illegal. They certainly don't want any border fences or any kind of guest worker program.
28 posted on 07/18/2006 1:58:26 PM PDT by Menehune56 (Oderint Dum Metuant (Let them hate, so long as they fear - Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC)))
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To: Founding Father
Each and every one of those Senators who voted against funding border security WHICH THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED and WHICH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OVERWHELMINGLY WANT, should be removed from office.

Can a state impeach a Senator? If so, it should be done. This is such an egregious breech of public trust that any possible means of removing these criminals from office should be pursued.

Defending the U.S. border against invaders is a prime responsibility of the Federal Government. Failure to do so on the part of elected Federal Officials is a high crime and misdemeanor.

If this the way the Constitution is being applied by those in power, its necessary to remove them from office.
29 posted on 07/18/2006 2:00:10 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Founding Father

1.8 billion is a helluva lotta money for a damn fence!
They could grant money to ranchers, landowners and college kids to build it with the nat'l guard keeping watch.
Heck, I'll build it for 900 million easy!
I'm glad they didn't approve of it! Sounds like they were watching out for the money on this one finally!


30 posted on 07/18/2006 2:01:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: napscoordinator
I can't wait for November just to get rid of him!!!

He is not my senator, therefore I cannot take any action to remove him.

I can, however, "not" vote for my own senator, the equally pathetic mike dewine.

31 posted on 07/18/2006 2:06:50 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (It's about the People Who Count the Votes................. - Wally O'Dell)
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To: Founding Father
The US Senate is pitiful. We need a Constitutional Amendment to make their terms two years instead of six.

Better yet, make it an annual election for these bozos.

32 posted on 07/18/2006 2:07:44 PM PDT by Gritty (McCain, Specter, and the rest are Presidents-for-life of the one-party state of Incumbistan-Mk Steyn)
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To: LucyT
It's a con-job on the American people.

No secret about that!

33 posted on 07/18/2006 2:11:11 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Founding Father
Maybe the Senate knows best after all. What could be better than an imaginary fence to keep out imaginary terrorists that are crossing our imaginary borders.

It's the Hitlerian Big Lie Theory -- Keep telling your constituents you voted to build a Border fence loud enough and often enough, and it will never occur to them to ask if you voted to pay for it.

34 posted on 07/18/2006 2:18:45 PM PDT by AppleButter
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To: brushcop

Now thats the best thing I've heard; nov. is coming let them know theres goona be a lot of changes


35 posted on 07/18/2006 2:22:08 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: JOAT

BTTT


36 posted on 07/18/2006 2:23:56 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Founding Father

These Border Patrol agents should resign, which will serve as a wake-up call to the Senate. This is absolutely unbelievable. They can find billions to fund Housing and Education but not a measly billion to fund a fence.


37 posted on 07/18/2006 2:26:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: LucyT; Czar; nicmarlo; texastoo; Kenny Bunk; EternalVigilance; jer33 3; janetgreen; hedgetrimmer; ..
Why am I not a bit surprised.
* The selling of America continues.
* It's convincing me that the NAU looms on the horizon.
* Our benevolent Senators know something we don't.
* Why spend the money on a fence, where there
  won't be a border?

 

38 posted on 07/18/2006 2:39:11 PM PDT by Smartass ("In God We Trust" - "An informed and knowledgeably citizen is the best defense against tyranny")
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To: Founding Father

Once again we see our government officials trying to provide security-on-the-cheap. Americans should be outraged," said a Border Patrol agent, who wishes to remain anonymous.

"Did anyone really believe these guys [senators] want to secure the border?" he said.

Another Border Patrol agent was less diplomatic: "Our leaders are not serious about border security. A few hundred more agents is a far cry from what they promised. It's a con-job on the American people."


Sums up my feelings!


39 posted on 07/18/2006 2:45:26 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: taxcontrol
I think that if they would add a $1 option to the end of the tax return... [to build a fence]

Hahaha, that would be so effective it would never be done.

When it's a matter of dickering over "legislation" they can make excuses; that is the preferred way of not addressing the crisis.

EN-FORCE-EXISTING-LAWS!!

40 posted on 07/18/2006 2:47:12 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (I saw TheInvisibleMan around here somewhere .... didn't I?)
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To: Founding Father

We could fire every current border patrol agent and replace them with the minutemen and have billions left over to spend on all the wall.

How about these self important border patrol agents explain why 18 unarmed guys do more to stop illegal immigration in one month than the 1000s of agents we currently employ who seem utterly incapable of identifying ANY location where rampant illegal border crossings are occurring?

Frankly, I think these "employ me for a lifetime" border patrol incompetants are the real reason nothing is happening.


41 posted on 07/18/2006 2:50:42 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: Texasforever; Amelia; onyx

Where's the fence?


42 posted on 07/18/2006 2:54:52 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Gritty
We need a Constitutional Amendment to make their terms two years instead of six. Better yet, make it an annual election for these bozos.

Wrong. They shouldn't be elected at all.

L

43 posted on 07/18/2006 2:55:17 PM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: wolfcreek
It was supposed to be 2,000 new agents per year for five years, starting with 2005. I.e., 4,000 new agents by now. Guess what? That was nixed also with excuses that it would cost too much.

Link: Bush budget scraps 9,790 Border Patrol agents

Shameful and outrageous. No, border security cannot be done on the cheap.

44 posted on 07/18/2006 2:56:03 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (I saw TheInvisibleMan around here somewhere .... didn't I?)
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To: EternalVigilance
Where's the fence?

Simcox's wallet?

45 posted on 07/18/2006 2:57:23 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Founding Father

Time to start voting the SOB's out of office.


46 posted on 07/18/2006 2:59:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: La Enchiladita
You know that word the Pres. was caught saying at the G8? That is what his legacy will be if he keeps this up!
47 posted on 07/18/2006 3:01:57 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: PRND21

"Tex"? Is that you?

Sorry, pard. Simcox is just a citizen activist, petitioning his government for redress.

It is the Congress and the President who raised their right hand and swore to protect the country and its people.

George W. Bush could solve this problem in a month.

Simply declare the situation a clear and present danger to the security of the USA, which it obviously is, and throw the available resources of our military into the fight. Oh, and start enforcing the laws on the books concerning employing illegals.

But unfortunately, they're more concerned with the Iraq/Iran border than they are with our own.


48 posted on 07/18/2006 3:07:23 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: wolfcreek

IF is a big word, I hope.

It's a mixed legacy as I support what he's done and is doing in other areas.

But this could sadly be the achilles heel.


49 posted on 07/18/2006 3:09:28 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (I saw TheInvisibleMan around here somewhere .... didn't I?)
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To: EternalVigilance
George W. Bush could solve this problem in a month.

All he needs is a good caging company, right?

50 posted on 07/18/2006 3:26:09 PM PDT by PRND21
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