G.O.P. Senator Resisting Bush Over Detainees - RINO MEGA-HURL ALERT

The New York Times ^ | July 18, 2006 | KATE ZERNIKE

[eartotheground]

Senator Lindsey Graham often plays the contrarian, the conservative Republican willing to poke a stick in the eye of the White House.

Mr. Graham advocates using the existing court-martial system as the basis for trying suspects, a position that has drawn fire from many other Republicans.

Last year, against the wishes of the Bush administration, he was one of the key forces in helping pass a ban on torture. While some other Republicans argue that terrorists do not deserve legal or human rights, Mr. Graham has insisted that only a system grounded in the fundamental rights of the military code and the Geneva conventions will affirm the reputation of the United States abroad and protect American troops when they are captured by enemies.

“I’m a big fan of the Geneva Conventions,” he declared.

At a hearing last week, Mr. Graham backed up Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Democrat of New York, as she prodded military lawyers to refute the claim of some Republicans that providing legal rights to terror suspects was tantamount to setting them free.

“Isn’t it correct,” Mr. Graham asked the panel, after making a polite interruption, “that you could be acquitted in a military commission and still be held as an enemy combatant — even if you’re acquitted?”

Nodding at Mrs. Clinton, he explained: “It goes to your point. You’re absolutely right.”

In an interview later, Mrs. Clinton called Mr. Graham’s position “a perfect example of when someone’s experience can be used to inform an issue.”

“He comes to it from his own experience and deeply held convictions about the importance of our military code of justice,” she said. Mrs. Clinton said, “There isn’t anyone else in the Congress who can speak with such experience and authority.”

[eartotheground]

Graham was also key in killing medical liability reform. How does one go about kicking someone out of the Republican Party?

[Arizona Carolyn]

Vote

[California Patriot]

Pompous ass. Let's hope we can defeat this pathetic mug in the primary when the time comes.

[lormand]

...hoping that South Carolina voters retire this turd.

[pissant]

Graham is worthless.

[TSchmereL]

You can't kick anyone out of the Republican Party. However, the Republican Party can refuse to support anyone who desires to run as a Republican and choose to support someone else.

I suppose Flimsy Sham thinks we are not really in a war or it is just an international crime spree that requires police action.

[new yorker 77]

GOOBER ALERT!

[Just A Nobody]

Lynds and Hill getting all cuddly - ping! Mrs. Clinton called Mr. Graham’s position “a perfect example of when someone’s experience can be used to inform an issue.”

[samadams2000]

I want that poodle EXTRACTED like cancer from the Senate.

[Just A Nobody]

Sadly, he is not up for re-election until 2008.

[Darkwolf377]

I seem to recall many liking him around here some tmie ago. What happened? When did this guy go all Hillary-struck on us? Seems he's been that way since we invaded Iraq, but maybe not.

[Darkwolf377]

“He comes to it from his own experience and deeply held convictions about the importance of our military code of justice,” she said. Mrs. Clinton said, “There isn’t anyone else in the Congress who can speak with such experience and authority.”

If Graham were a woman I'd suggest these two get a room.

[W04Man]

What exactly is his "experience"? I missed something.

[maggief]

If Graham were a woman ...

You mean he isn't? I am stuned.

[eartotheground]

He was an attorney in the military. Whoop-de-doo. If you go to the original article, (if you haven't eaten recently)they make it like he was practically born in a log cabin; sob-story about supporting his 13 year old sister. When the NYT likes someone, watch out.

[new yorker 77]

Lindsay Graham is such a spineless douche-bag.

He lied to the voters of South Carolina in order to get elected.

He is a media whore who constantly undermines Republicans and Conservatives.

He runs in 2008.

He needs to be defeated.

If he wants to be a whore, go to Hunt's Point stay out of the Senate as a Fake Conservative.

[Just A Nobody]

JAG I think.

[BerlinStrausbaugh]

Senator Lindsey Graham

Senator Sissy Pants!

What a jerk!

[gov_bean_ counter]

He was/is a JAG. Big freeking deal. JAG Officers like any other legal profession specialize in certain areas. What evidence is there that he has any significant experience in this particular area of the law.

[new yorker 77]

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[Peach]

I'm a big fan of the Geneva Convention too, Graham. But let's not play games. The jihadists don't fall under any category of the outlines of the Geneva Convention.

What uniform is it they wear again Graham? A suicide vest?

[USS Alaska]

If Graham were a woman I'd suggest these two get a room.

Wouldn't these two make you sick, just thinking about it....

[Tzimisce]

He wants to use the court martial system for detainees?

Does this mean we can shackle them and hang them from the ceiling a la our Haditha soldiers? Or would that violate detainee rights?

[mrsmith]

He earned a lot of credit as one of the House impeachment managers.

He sure has eagerly thrown that away.

I assume McCain has promised him some of the big lobbyists' money, and the NYTimes has promised to cover it up if he gets caught.

[Darkwolf377]

I can't figure it out. He sure does seem to swoon when either McCain or Hillary are in the room, though.

[Don Carlos]

Someone remind me when he comes up for re-election in 2008, OK? I'll give his primary opponent a few bucks!

Why, oh why do we burden ourselves with dips***s like "Light In The Loafers Lindsey"?

[Wristpin]

Is he still a drilling reservist?

Maybe he can be mobilized as the Military Judge during the first illegal combatant Courts Martials?

[Hendrix]

As we say in the South, he is getting too big for his britches and deserves a spanking come election time. I am tired of his McCain tactics.

[NorCalRepub]

....he has a 96 rating from the ACU.....that doesn't constiture "constantly undermining"...but I know he has a few issues that he seems to digress from the Repubs...but it seems like the hate for him is more emotive then substantive.....his voting record proves it....I'll name many senators that are loved here that have a lower rating from ACU

[Darkwolf377]

He sure looks like he wants to be in charge of something. He strikes me as someone who's mad that he's too uh "moderate" to be a Republican presidential nominee and no one would buy him jumping ship to the dems. I find him very off-putting in interviews. He tends to whine.

[SC Swamp Fox]

South Carolina Ping

Add me to the list. | Remove me from the list.

[mbraynard]

Not sure that ACU is an authority on the real conservatism of a Senator. And you can't just a Senator solely on their voting record.

[upchuck]

Pandsey One-Termer shows again why he will be a one termer. A shame we have to wait till 2008 to run his ass outta town.

I have spoken with lots of South Carolinians about this. The anger is palpable.

If the SC Pubbies can put up a decent candidate, Lindsey is gone.

[Between the Lines]

If the SC Pubbies can put up a decent candidate, Lindsey is gone.

Sad thing is that if the Dems put up a decent candidate, there is enough Republicans upset at Lindsey mouthing off that the Dem would probably win.

[NorCalRepub]

....that is so true...but they have been rating senators since 1971 and have been used by many on both sides as an authoritative source.....however, I do recognize that there are intangibles.......

[oneolcop]

He's a L A W Y E R for cripes sakes. What do you expect????

[Peach]

How did you like the comment about "I'm a big fan of the Geneva Convention"? Like anyone who disagrees with him isn't?

As a JAG, Lindsey knows better than most that the jihadists don't qualify for the Geneva Convention. But I guess he just brushes that aside as a little bump in the road.

[upchuck]

How did you like the comment about "I'm a big fan of the Geneva Convention"?

Yeah and, "I love it when the sun shines," and, "Everybody needs a comfortable retirement."

Same thing. Lindsee, in stating the obvious, is just showing what a lightweight he truly is.

When/if McLame puts him on his ticket as VP for 2008, I wonder if he'll give up his Senate seat?

That would be a convenient solution to the problem.

[demkicker]

For someone who has the gift of gab, he's never known when to shut up.

[VRWCtaz]

As I have stated on quite a few other threads; my biggest political mistake was ever voting for that man. One thing I have noticed is that early in most threads a few adamant LG defenders show up with the argument that he "votes conservative >90% of the time." I find it interesting that this thread is over 40 posts without his apologists.

[demkicker]

Don't worry, they'll get here soon enough. The day is early ;-)

[SquirrelKing]

He was an attorney in the military.

A lawyer sent to Washington? Now THERE's some fresh perspective needed on Capitol Hill. /s

*sigh*

I voted for the guy. Note to self: No more drinkin' before going to the polls...

[Just A Nobody]

A shame we have to wait till 2008

The damage that "these people" (read sphincter and graHAM) can do as their six years drag on is painful to watch.

[Just A Nobody]

You missed post #30.

[Just A Nobody]

No more drinkin' before going to the polls...

LOL! Shame on you - this is ALL your fault! ;*)

[VRWCtaz]

OK, I stand corrected. As my third grade teacher said, "Read ALL the words."

[Just A Nobody]

As my third grade teacher said,

It was my fifth grade teacher! I still remember that day. He passed out a pop quiz intstructing us to read the entire test BEFORE answering the questions. There were 2 or 3 that actually did it. LOL!!!

[new yorker 77]

The man is an ass who promotes himself in media as if he speaks for everyone.

It is not emotive to hear what this man says on a daily basis to undermine this President.

He is a disgrace.

An ACU rating does not factor in his rhetoric on national television on a weekly basis.

Nor does it factor in his desire to give terrorists the rights of American citizens.

He is a fraud who should be defeated.

Anyone who does not see this is not worthy of being called a Conservative.

To defend this pig is a disgrace.

He needs to be defeated and he will be defeated in the Primary in 2008 and America will be better off for it.

[NorCalRepub]

...ok...I get you...the man is an "ass" and a "pig".... truly an educated and well spoken opinion....let's hope people who disagree with you don't stoop to insults to make a point......usually liberals do that best....take care.