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Communism's 'bullet'
pittsburghlive.com ^ | July 17, 2006 | Ralph R. Reiland

Posted on 07/18/2006 2:32:50 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Explaining the monumental failure of the Soviet system and empire, Gen. Dmitri Volkogonov, a former official Soviet military historian, stressed that "the roots of the catastrophe lay in the ideology itself, in Leninism."

All told, the "catastrophe" of attempting to impose a Marxist-Leninist utopia in the Soviet Union resulted in the deaths of as many as 25 million people, according to recently released and hitherto inaccessible Soviet archives -- a death toll that was the direct consequence of centrally planned massacres, mass deportations, labor camps, torture and famine. ...

Within months of his rise to power, Lenin provided the definition of "revolutionary justice" to a workers' assembly: "If the masses do not rise up spontaneously, none of this will lead to anything. For as long as we fail to treat speculators the way they deserve --- with a bullet in the head --- we will not get anywhere."

The targets of this "justice" included shopkeepers, landlords, non-Bolshevik newspapers, non-Bolshevik political parties, the clergy, "counter-revolutionary" civil servants, intellectuals, "aristocrats," industrial strikers and malingering "pseudoworkers," entrepreneurs, gun owners, craftsmen, "bourgeois specialists," landowners, and, most especially, "money grubbing" kulaks, i.e., better-off peasants.

Simply stated, Lenin's "bullet in the head" form of "justice" was the officially prescribed punishment for any person "belonging to a hostile social class."

On Aug. 10, 1918, for instance, Lenin telegrammed instructions for dealing with kulaks who were expressing opposition to having their harvests confiscated by the government: "You must make an example of these people: (1) Hang (I mean hang publicly, so that people see it) at least 100 kulaks, rich bastards, and known bloodsuckers. (2) Publish their names. (3) Seize all their grain. P.S. Find tougher people."

By the time it was over, the Soviet Union's "tougher" enforcers had killed millions...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 25milliondead; bullet; communism; communismiscruel; communists; despotism; dictator; josephstalin; lenin; marxists; murderkerryvoters; socialists; unclejoestalin; usefulidiots; utopia

1 posted on 07/18/2006 2:32:51 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
And yet there are still apologists for this murderous thug Lenin and his odious 'political philosophy'.

The Soviets really got the ball rolling as far as democide was concerned. Stalin ended up making Hitler look like a rank amateur.

L

2 posted on 07/18/2006 2:38:11 PM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

If only Kerensky would have had the courage to have the Provisional Government execute Vladimir Ulyanov, 100 million people may have not perished to bolshevik misgovernance.


3 posted on 07/18/2006 2:38:33 PM PDT by AdvisorB (For a terrorist bodycount in hamistan, let the smoke clear then count the ears and divide by 2.)
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To: Lurker

Thanks a lot Imperial Germany.


4 posted on 07/18/2006 2:39:39 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Yet, this type of regimes still exist in Vietnam, Cuba, North Korea. The majority of the lefts still think it's better for these country to live under communists!!!


5 posted on 07/18/2006 2:40:46 PM PDT by Toidylop
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To: Tailgunner Joe
By the time it was over, the Soviet Union's "tougher" enforcers had killed millions...

Well if that never bothered the New York Times, why should I be bothered by it? < / sarcasm >

6 posted on 07/18/2006 2:40:50 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Mr.Smorch

they killed the best parts of the society. No wonder the country is so screwed up


7 posted on 07/18/2006 2:42:04 PM PDT by tom paine 2
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Hatred of the rich is a very effective weapon. In this case you were rich if you had a few head of cattle.

It's still an effective policy..where would the Democrats be without it!

8 posted on 07/18/2006 2:42:31 PM PDT by Voltage
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To: Ditto
Their fine correspondents like Walter Duranty could find no such evidence.
9 posted on 07/18/2006 2:47:39 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Voltage

Heck under Stalin if you weren't starving you were considered rich.


10 posted on 07/18/2006 2:48:17 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Lurker

I frequent a site that has forums for a Swedish computer game about WW II. The unabashed love expressed there for Communism can be quite sickening at times.


11 posted on 07/18/2006 2:48:48 PM PDT by Ingtar (Prensa dos para el inglÚs)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I wonder how many "Democrat" and RINO congresscritters would actually like to try the fullblown communist experiment in Amerika? A number seem hell bent on trying it. I'll attribute their desire to complete selfishness, rather than stupidity -- they wouldn't care how many people die in their socialist utopia. Damn them all.


12 posted on 07/18/2006 2:50:50 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: Voltage
Which reminds me of an old Russian joke related to envy...

A Russian peasant finds a lamp, rubs it and out pops a genie. The genie tells the peasant "I will give you whatever you wish for. But, whatever you wish for, I'm going to give your neighbor double." The peasant immediately answers "I wish my cow was dead." The genie is taken back by that reply and asks "Why on earth would you wish that?!" "Because my neighbor has two cows" replies the peasant.
13 posted on 07/18/2006 2:51:09 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Lenin ultimately failed because he was too up front about his method. Gramsci left behind a blue print that they are following to great success.


14 posted on 07/18/2006 2:52:53 PM PDT by MattinNJ (The paleocon's paleocon.)
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To: Mr.Smorch

There were dozens - literally - of points where everything could have been different. Lenin could have been stopped any number of times by any number of people, who came just "this" close to ending the slide into horror.

I recommend Orlando Figes "A Peoples Tragedy"

Events just seemed to have happened such that the worst possible outcome came about. It makes one appreciate the value of the concept of Satan.


15 posted on 07/18/2006 2:54:30 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Thank you for this article, Tailgunner. People need to know what communism is all about.


16 posted on 07/18/2006 2:58:11 PM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: Badray; smokeyb; jim_g_goldwing

Ping.


17 posted on 07/18/2006 3:03:28 PM PDT by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: mainepatsfan

Duranty confided years later that he knew of the famine & other atrocities when he wrote glowingly about the success of communism. There was a movement several years ago to revoke his Pulitzer but nothing came of it


18 posted on 07/18/2006 3:14:14 PM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: kitkat
kitkat,

If people in this country would just learn, there's plenty of academic sources (George Mason University has a great library of communist genocide in the last century). One notable is the Museum of Communism FAQ, by Bryan Caplan. Some info below shows some of the most cruel act against human kind, communists seem to lead the pack!!!

In particular, using almost any scholarly tabulations (and even official Communist pronouncements), the government of the USSR murdered more non-combatants than any other in the 20th-century. Communist China comes in second. Out of the top ten most murderous regimes in this century, five were Communist, according to the ranking provided by R.J. Rummel in his Death By Government (Communist regimes indicated in bold):

  1. Soviet Union
  2. Communist China
  3. Nazi Germany
  4. Nationalist China
  5. Imperial Japan
  6. Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge
  7. Turkey under the Young Turks
  8. Communist Vietnam
  9. Communist Poland
  10. Pakistan under Yahya Khan

19 posted on 07/18/2006 3:16:01 PM PDT by Toidylop
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I just found out today that Stalin had been a BANK-ROBBER b4 he got into politics. Did he rob a bank once? No.

He robbed them **6 TIMES**. In Georgia.

20 posted on 07/18/2006 3:22:52 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: preacher

And the Times would rather ignore the subject.


21 posted on 07/18/2006 3:23:24 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Communism was a state religion and it's deity died in 1953.
22 posted on 07/18/2006 3:39:46 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make them go home!!)
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To: buwaya; tom paine 2; All
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The paradox of Russian History. I am a general, former Supreme Commander of Russian forces, and I wanted Kerensky to execute the bolsheviki. Kerensky demoted me and because of Kerensky's incompetance, I raised an army and marched on Petrograd. WHO AM I?!

23 posted on 07/18/2006 4:04:12 PM PDT by AdvisorB (For a terrorist bodycount in hamistan, let the smoke clear then count the ears and divide by 2.)
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To: Ingtar

"The unabashed love expressed there for Communism can be quite sickening at times."


Communism or any other kind of totalitarianism sickening. It usually attract the most thuggish types as their foot soldiers.


24 posted on 07/18/2006 4:10:11 PM PDT by siddude
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To: Mr.Smorch

General Nikolai Dukhonin?

Been awhile since I read about that.


25 posted on 07/18/2006 4:34:31 PM PDT by Ingtar (Prensa dos para el inglÚs)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

They killed all the disciplined people and were left with a bunch of lunatics in control... Lenin being the chief of them all... what do "we" expect.

And Dems and liberals are trying to pull the same crap by destroying the traditional family and embracing the gays.

The coming wars will not compete on territorial nor on economic gains, but on who has the "religion" which will dominate in terms of discipline.


26 posted on 07/18/2006 4:47:15 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: Mr.Smorch
If I am not mistaken Lenin was banished from the Soviet Union at the time. They would have to have killed in in either Germany of France. Both of them a bad place to commit murder.
27 posted on 07/18/2006 4:48:37 PM PDT by grapeape (I like to make myslef feal superoir by pointing out peples spelin erer's and thpos)
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To: Ingtar

Good Guess, but, no. I'll give you a hint. There is a picture of this great Russian General hoisting Kerensky on his back. The picture was taken at the Bolshoi in July of 1917. Another hint, liberals and leftists love to heap scorn on him for his march on Petrograd. It is believed that Kerensky panicked when he heard about the generals intention and released all the bolsheviks from prison so they could help the Provisional Government defend itself. Kerensky handed the keys to the kremlin to the bolsheviks, just like that. What a maroon.


28 posted on 07/18/2006 4:49:53 PM PDT by AdvisorB (For a terrorist bodycount in hamistan, let the smoke clear then count the ears and divide by 2.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Good read ...

29 posted on 07/18/2006 4:52:18 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Mr.Smorch

Molitov?


30 posted on 07/18/2006 4:57:01 PM PDT by grapeape (I like to make myslef feal superoir by pointing out peples spelin erer's and thpos)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Socialism is founded on three sins: Lies, Coveting and Theft.


31 posted on 07/18/2006 4:58:41 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: grapeape

Kto?


32 posted on 07/18/2006 6:03:54 PM PDT by AdvisorB (For a terrorist bodycount in hamistan, let the smoke clear then count the ears and divide by 2.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Never pass up an opportunity to slam these facts into the face of Democrat. It's the only way, in the long run, to win America back.


33 posted on 07/18/2006 6:06:42 PM PDT by tyrem1166 (Biden's metro bro)
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To: Mr.Smorch

Brusilov came to mind first, but I seem to recall him sitting on the sidelines.

Kornilov. Only one I can think of.

And when Kerensky let the Bolsheviks loose, they promised to help. They did help... but not Kerensky. They defended the city against Kornilov, but did not fight Kerensky. Didn't they bring about the mutiny of the troops under Kornilov?


34 posted on 07/18/2006 6:09:55 PM PDT by Ingtar (Prensa dos para el inglÚs)
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To: Ingtar

Make that "did not fight for Kerensky"


35 posted on 07/18/2006 6:10:43 PM PDT by Ingtar (Prensa dos para el inglÚs)
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To: Lurker

N.Korea is the modern starving memorial to Lenin/Stalin and our presidents Clinton decided to give them nukes. Something that not even the Soviets were willing to do.


36 posted on 07/18/2006 6:16:11 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Ingtar

It looks like we have a winner!! Kornilov is correct.

The Kossack Kornilov. Is it any wonder that the Cossacks abandoned Kerensky after he had their "hetman" sacked as Supreme Commander and then had him arrested? That's one of the untold stories of the coup of 1917 that brought the bolsheviks to power.


37 posted on 07/18/2006 6:18:46 PM PDT by AdvisorB (For a terrorist bodycount in hamistan, let the smoke clear then count the ears and divide by 2.)
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To: Mr.Smorch

What....Kto?


38 posted on 07/18/2006 6:43:36 PM PDT by grapeape (I like to make myslef feal superoir by pointing out peples spelin erer's and thpos)
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To: mainepatsfan
Heck under Stalin if you weren't starving you were considered rich.

... Or a made-member of The Party.

It was the Mob --- on a very large scale.

39 posted on 07/18/2006 7:02:56 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: grapeape

What is shto and Who is kto in Russian that is.


40 posted on 07/18/2006 7:05:12 PM PDT by AdvisorB (For a terrorist bodycount in hamistan, let the smoke clear then count the ears and divide by 2.)
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To: Ingtar

"Didn't they bring about the mutiny of the troops under Kornilov?"

Bolshevik agitprop decimated Kornilovs troops and coupled with the railway workers opposition to the coup preventing the trains from getting to Petrograd, there was no hope for Kornilov, and more tragically, there was no hope for Russia.
A sad story indeed.


41 posted on 07/18/2006 7:10:31 PM PDT by AdvisorB (For a terrorist bodycount in hamistan, let the smoke clear then count the ears and divide by 2.)
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To: Ingtar
I frequent a site that has forums for a Swedish computer game about WW II. The unabashed love expressed there for Communism can be quite sickening at times.

Cute. Perhaps you could ask them if they have anything feelings about the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact where they mutually decided to gang-bang Poland and the rest of the Baltic states?

Communism is a disease.

42 posted on 07/18/2006 7:11:54 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Mike Darancette
Communism was a state religion and it's deity died in 1953.

Dead deities cause less trouble for ambitious apparatchiks than live ones.

Observe the roles of the dead and buried FDR in the US and PET in Canada in advancing the agendas of our native wannabe Glorious Leaders.

Socialism is everywhere and at all times a death-cult.

43 posted on 07/19/2006 5:31:34 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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