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How Young Is Too Young? (Teen Sex)
Agape Press ^ | 7/12/06 | Jane Jimenez

Posted on 07/18/2006 4:42:43 PM PDT by wagglebee

(AgapePress) - I think she still holds it against me. As a teen today, it's absolutely ludicrous to think that my niece Katie needs to hold my hand while crossing the street.

But way back when, when Katie was just three, our battle of wills produced fierce tears. On a shopping trip, I her aunt, was entrusted with her safety. All was going well ... until the moment I grabbed Katie's hand before we crossed the busy parking lot in front of the store.

Katie jerked her hand away from me. Hearing a car's motor on the left, I reached out to catch her hand again. It took us a full minute to establish that she was going to hold my hand as we crossed the street. And, if today she still holds it against me, I must confess ... I'm not sorry for insisting on winning the battle.

Life is like that. One minute we're too young to be entrusted with a task. And then we aren't.

Life is like that. One minute we're held back. And then, crossing the line in the sand, we are suddenly old enough to be trusted with new responsibilities. It's a simple principle. And yet, it's a principle some want us to ignore in the most significant area of life for American teens today.

Today, we are embroiled in a national debate about how to handle sexual behavior related to teens and adolescents. In a surprising upheaval of logic, there are "sexperts" who cannot find any line in the sand at all to dictate a time when sex is absolutely, unequivocally and irrevocably inappropriate for young people.

Instead, these "sexperts" have declared this the "Age of Consent." If you can get or give consent, then you are old enough to have sex.

Ignoring the health implications for teens who are sexually active, these "sexperts" wag their fingers in the face of abstinence educators, rejecting any attempt to set a line in the sand. Who is "ready" for sex, you ask? Anyone who "consents" to have sex, they answer.

Embracing the philosophy of Kinsey, all sex is good sex ... if you can dream it up, if you can manage to perform it, and if it is consensual ... then it is good sex.

Like all ideas, pushing to the extreme, we eventually must come to terms with the insanity of insane ideas. Consider the case of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). According to Wikipedia, it is "a New York City- and San Francisco-based unincorporated organization that opposes the use of age as the sole criterion for deciding whether minors can legally engage in sexual relations."

Wikipedia continues: "NAMBLA defends what it asserts to be the right of minors to explore their sexuality on a much freer basis. It has resolved to 'end the oppression of men and boys who have freely chosen mutually consenting relationships.'"

Checking out the NAMBLA website, disturbing evidence exists of adults promoting sex between grown men and young boys. You can order a newly revised copy of Boys Speak Out on Man/Boy Love, promoted with a picture of a grown man dancing with a boy barely taller than his elbows. Chapters include "It Shouldn't Be a Crime to Make Love," written by Bryan, age twelve and a half. An interview with Thijs, age 11, declares "I'm Not Going To Be Kept Away from Him." How about it, "Sexperts?" Is consent considered justification for this type of adult/child sex?

Or what about a 2002 book written by Judith Levine, Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Children from Sex? Widely promoted as a book to challenge "widespread anxieties" about pedophilia, Ms. Levine was toasted by national media and given every opportunity to convince Americans that science supports positive benefits for sex between adults and children.

The book's publisher, University of Minnesota Press, called Levine's book "a radical, refreshing, and long overdue reassessment of how we think and act about children's and teens' sexuality." James Kincaid, author of Erotic Innocence: The Culture of Child Molesting, called it "a crusading book that is also kind, a very rare phenomenon, and it comes down always on the side of trusting not only our kids and their pleasures but our own."

Taking up the banner of "consensual sex," most recently the Journal of Adolescent Health stated that "... there are no scientific data suggesting that consensual sex between adolescents is harmful." Seeking to justify their assertion, they pointed to the "many positive mental health consequences" of adolescent sex.

Finally, and most sadly, the Centers of Disease Control has now joined in the chorus of "sexperts" protecting sex for adolescents. At their 2006 National STD Prevention Conference in Jacksonville, Florida, the CDC had a chance to draw a line in the sand. And they failed.

At the CDC conference, standing before a crowd of national experts on STDs, Dr. Patricia Sulak sought to find common ground between the "sexperts" and abstinence educators. Surely, she challenged them, we can agree on this one thing. Can't we agree on an age too young for sex?

NO! the room erupted in unison. After all, this is the age of consent. If sex is consensual, that's good enough for them. If you are wondering what the CDC has to say about this ... so am I.

How about it, CDC? How young is too young when it comes to children and sex?



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At the CDC conference, standing before a crowd of national experts on STDs, Dr. Patricia Sulak sought to find common ground between the "sexperts" and abstinence educators. Surely, she challenged them, we can agree on this one thing. Can't we agree on an age too young for sex?

NO! the room erupted in unison. After all, this is the age of consent. If sex is consensual, that's good enough for them. If you are wondering what the CDC has to say about this ... so am I.

This is just sickeining!

1 posted on 07/18/2006 4:42:47 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: DBeers; DirtyHarryY2K

HA Ping.


2 posted on 07/18/2006 4:43:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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3 posted on 07/18/2006 4:44:49 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
NO! the room erupted in unison. After all, this is the age of consent.

Wow a whole room full of child molesters and thay all have government jobs ?!

Who'd a thunk it ?

5 posted on 07/18/2006 4:48:57 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ( have long feared that my sins would return to visit me and the cost would be more than I could bear)
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To: wagglebee

I didn't even realize NAMBLA really existed. I thought South Park made it up.


6 posted on 07/18/2006 4:49:28 PM PDT by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: cancun
In Mexico the legal limit is 12 years old or 30 kilos, Is that right or wrong?

Are you actually being serious?

7 posted on 07/18/2006 4:52:52 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: BackInBlack
NAMBLA really existed
No my FRiend, it is an organized group of pedophiles who actually lobby to be able to legally rape young boys.
8 posted on 07/18/2006 4:53:50 PM PDT by GrandEagle (God bless the USA! May God grant our forces safety and victory on the battlefield!)
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To: wagglebee
Are you actually being serious?

It's raining noobs today.

9 posted on 07/18/2006 4:54:19 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: wagglebee

He signed up today. hmmmm, me thinks something stinks.


10 posted on 07/18/2006 4:54:44 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: wagglebee

"I think she still holds it against me."

Rim shot please.


11 posted on 07/18/2006 4:55:16 PM PDT by toddlintown
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To: wagglebee
It seems to me people with out children or(those with that don't give a sh*t] are making the rules.
12 posted on 07/18/2006 4:56:06 PM PDT by oyez (The way to punish a providence is to allow it to be governed by philosophers. --Frederick the Great)
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To: cancun
Well, if you don't mind your 12 year old daughter gettin it on at that age, then I guess it's just fine and dandy.
13 posted on 07/18/2006 4:56:16 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: wagglebee

I've got an easy answer for those experts... Too young is when you are not able to be personally responsible for the possible consequences of your actions (Physically, Financially, Emotionally, or otherwise). This is regardless of one's spiritual or faith-based views on the subject.

I mean isn't this a basic moral value that has nothing to do with sex at all? It's called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, for gosh sakes!!! No wonder they are having such problems with this idea, the majority of these people most likely support socialistic economic policies so they would see nothing wrong with these future teen parents ending up on the public dole -- all the better to control them, I guess...

As for some of the other concerns - like NAMBLA, that kind of stuff enrages me as it seems like some of this is a push on the part of abusers to take away the stigma of child abuse and such. THAT is where this just gets absolutely reprehensible. Don't these "sexperts" get educated in the very real effects of sexual abuse, or do they believe it's a myth or something crazy like that? Age differences for example when dealing with adults and teens -- there is a huge opportunity there for the adults to manipulate and control the teens. Anyone who doesn't see that should have their head examined, IMHO...


14 posted on 07/18/2006 4:56:36 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

Well said!


15 posted on 07/18/2006 4:59:07 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: LibertyRocks

The problem with that answer is that it excludes heterosexual sex (the responsibility being the resulting human life) but gives full rein to homos, including NAMBLA.

The age of consent should be 18 for everyone. What is the problem with that? We no longer live in an agrarian society where you need 20 kids so you have to start at 15. We live considerably longer as well, so lovers can enjoy each other's company for a lot longer, notwithstanding the wait. Of course over 1/2 of them will be divorced at some point, so maybe that's wrong.


16 posted on 07/18/2006 4:59:55 PM PDT by GatorGirl
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To: LibertyRocks
I've got an easy answer for those experts... Too young is when you are not able to be personally responsible for the possible consequences of your actions ....

That's it, in a nutshell.

17 posted on 07/18/2006 5:01:29 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: BackInBlack
I didn't even realize NAMBLA really existed. I thought South Park made it up.
They did make up the North American Marlon Brando Look-a-like Association, but not the pervert club.
18 posted on 07/18/2006 5:02:43 PM PDT by digitalbrownshirt (http://digitalbrownshirt.blogspot.com)
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To: wagglebee

If they aren't old enough to raise and provide for children they concieve, they aren't old enough to have sexual relations.


19 posted on 07/18/2006 5:03:53 PM PDT by MrEdd (Bad spellers of the world - UNTIE!,)
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To: LibertyRocks; wagglebee
Too young is when you are not able to be personally responsible for the possible consequences of your actions (Physically, Financially, Emotionally, or otherwise).

Good summary. My version is that you're old enough for sex when you are ready to be married, self-supporting parents to a baby.

20 posted on 07/18/2006 5:04:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Whiskey for my men, hyperbolic rodomontade for my horses.)
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