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Why Jesus would not vote for Barack Obama
World Net Daily ^ | July 19, 2006 | Jill Stanek

Posted on 07/19/2006 9:31:11 AM PDT by Caleb1411

In February 2004, U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama's wife, Michelle, sent a fund-raising letter with the "alarming news" that "right-wing politicians" had passed a law stopping doctors from stabbing half-born babies in the neck with scissors, suctioning out their brains and crushing their skulls.

Michelle called partial-birth abortion "a legitimate medical procedure," and wouldn't supporters please pay $150 to attend a luncheon for her husband, who would fight against "cynical ploy[s]" to stop it?

But that's not why Obama's opponent Alan Keyes said Jesus Christ wouldn't vote for him.

Obama recalled Keyes' statement in a recent USA Today opinion piece but omitted his reasoning.

I know his reasoning, because I was there.

As a nurse at an Illinois hospital in 1999, I discovered babies were being aborted alive and shelved to die in soiled utility rooms. I discovered infanticide.

Legislation was presented on the federal level and in various states called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. It stated all live-born babies were guaranteed the same constitutional right to equal protection, whether or not they were wanted.

BAIPA sailed through the U.S. Senate by unanimous vote. Even Sens. Clinton, Kennedy and Kerry agreed a mother's right to "choose" stopped at her baby's delivery.

The bill also passed overwhelmingly in the House. NARAL went neutral on it. Abortion enthusiasts publicly agreed that fighting BAIPA would appear extreme. President Bush signed BAIPA into law in 2002.

But in Illinois, the state version of BAIPA repeatedly failed, thanks in large part to then-state Sen. Barack Obama. It only passed in 2005, after Obama left.

I testified in 2001 and 2002 before a committee of which Obama was a member.

Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights. Obama's clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then. Obama voted against the measure, twice. It ultimately failed.

In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA was sent, Obama stopped it from even getting a hearing, shelving it to die much like babies were still being shelved to die in Illinois hospitals and abortion clinics.

(As chair of that same committee, Obama once abruptly ended a hearing early, right before Scott and Janet Willis, the parents of six children killed as a result of Illinois' drivers licenses for bribes scandal, were to testify in favor of Choose Life license plate legislation. I was there for that one, too. The Willises had traveled three hours. Reporters filled the room. Obama stalled. He later killed the bill when no one was around.)

So, the reason Keyes said Jesus Christ wouldn't vote for Barack Obama was because of Obama's fanatical support of abortion to the point of condoning infanticide.

I have framed on my wall a Chicago Sun-Times cartoon published during the campaign. Obama is holding a sign with "LIVE BIRTH ABORTION" on it. God is reaching down from heaven to a baby in front of Obama, and the baby is reaching up to God. Obama is yelling at God, "You keep out of this!"

In his USA Today opinion piece, Obama admitted being "nagged" by the Jesus-wouldn't-vote-for-him statement, but only because he wished he'd given a different comeback.

Obama insinuated opposition to abortion is based only on religion, lecturing pro-lifers like me to "explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all."

I don't recall mentioning religion when I testified against live-birth abortion. I only recall describing a live aborted baby I held in a hospital soiled utility room until he died, and a live aborted baby who was accidentally thrown into the trash.

Neither do I recall religion being brought into the partial-birth abortion ban debate. I recall comparisons made to U.S. laws ensuring animals being killed are treated humanely. I recall testimony that late-term babies feel excruciating pain while being aborted.

Obama stated pro-life proposals must be "amenable to reason."

OK, Sen. Obama, let's reason. Explain why you support abortion for whatever rationale, at whatever gestation, by whatever means. Explain why you support infanticide, if banning it might interfere with abortion.

Then, since you brought it up, explain how, despite all that, you think Jesus should vote for you, either now or in the hereafter, particularly given His statement, "It would be better to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around the neck than to face the punishment in store for harming one of these little ones."

Jill Stanek fought to stop "live-birth abortion" after witnessing one as a registered nurse at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Ill. In 2002, President Bush asked Jill to attend his signing of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. In January 2003, World Magazine named Jill one of the 30 most prominent pro-life leaders of the past 30 years. To learn more, visit Jill's blog, Pro-life Pulse.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 109th; abortion; ac; christianvote; congress; godless; obama; pba; prolife
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1 posted on 07/19/2006 9:31:14 AM PDT by Caleb1411
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To: cpforlife.org

Ping


2 posted on 07/19/2006 9:32:08 AM PDT by Caleb1411 ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own." G. K. C)
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To: Caleb1411

Jesus wouldn't vote for Obama, but Mohammed would. :)


3 posted on 07/19/2006 9:33:58 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Caleb1411

I don't care who Jesus would vote for; I'm more interested that He frustrate and defeat the enemies of life. Most of the political battles of day are actually spiritual battles, and the Democrats have proven over and over again that they are on the wrong side of this spiritual warfare.


4 posted on 07/19/2006 9:38:31 AM PDT by Kenny Bunkport (Israel is doing the Lordís work.)
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To: Tzimisce

OBama is a protege of Ted Kennedy...nuff said. Jake


5 posted on 07/19/2006 9:39:00 AM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: Caleb1411
Obama = Stealth Moslem
6 posted on 07/19/2006 9:45:41 AM PDT by guitar4jesus (Black, Conservative . . . and I vote!)
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To: Caleb1411

If there is a belief that is held in all religions(even Buddhism) it is the right to life for an unborn child, if Barack Obama holds that view and calls himself Christian he is dead wrong.


7 posted on 07/19/2006 9:46:16 AM PDT by Merta (I am a Neo-Con, Zionist, Semi-Libertarian, Semi-Rockefeller Republican.)
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To: Merta

Obama is really scary. He's going to be really attractive to people because he "talks the talk." He has also mastered the Christian lingo. People in Illinois are totally buffaloed by the guy because he's a smooth talker. Do NOT underestimate this guy.


9 posted on 07/19/2006 9:52:46 AM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: silverleaf

big big ping


10 posted on 07/19/2006 9:56:18 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Caleb1411

Of course Jesus wouldn't vote for Barack Obama. He's not registered, and he's not a resident; he can't vote in American elections. What a silly idea for a thread.


11 posted on 07/19/2006 9:58:44 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: der guten tag hop klop

"So, the reason Keyes said Jesus Christ wouldn't vote for Barack Obama was because of Obama's fanatical support of abortion to the point of condoning infanticide. "

Yeah, that's really goofy.

It makes me sick, the way some so-called "conservatives" treat Alan Keyes.


12 posted on 07/19/2006 10:01:09 AM PDT by dsc
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To: linda_22003
He's not registered, and he's not a resident; he can't vote in American elections.

You, on the other hand, would undoubtedly support Obama because he is such a big fan of your favorite "medical" procedure.

13 posted on 07/19/2006 10:01:13 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: Caleb1411

Quite frankly I am getting sick of this "What would Jesus think" crap. That to me is so disrespectful. We should not try to guess what he would or woundn't say. I am so sick of the disgusting libs trying to use Jesus in this way...they are so sick!!!!!


14 posted on 07/19/2006 10:03:01 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Caleb1411

Right on the mark. God bless Jill Stanek.

Barack Hussein Obama is one of the most dangerous political figures of our time.


15 posted on 07/19/2006 10:03:07 AM PDT by Gelato
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To: Kenny Bunkport

Amen.


16 posted on 07/19/2006 10:04:26 AM PDT by tioga
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To: linda_22003

Do you ever have an intellignet comment to make?


17 posted on 07/19/2006 10:05:50 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: Caleb1411

As a physician I ask, at what point do you with hold extended life support to infants born tremendously premature?

I recall seeing many that were too small to go on some kind of life support and who eventually were left to die.

I know we are able of resuscitating infants born that are smaller and smaller, but surely we are not talking about miscarriages that occur in the first or early second trimester, where the fetus is alive but too small to receive extended life support.


18 posted on 07/19/2006 10:06:31 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Thank you again Jimmy Carter.)
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To: linda_22003

This thread is based on a news article....just as most threads on this site. Do you mean to say this is a silly idea for a news article? rme


19 posted on 07/19/2006 10:07:34 AM PDT by tioga
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To: napscoordinator

I thought we were required to know what God (Jesus) wants us to do and do exactly that. Isn't that why we study the Bible? It is just that the libs have twisted thinking and reasoning. But this IS what a Christian is expected to do.


20 posted on 07/19/2006 10:10:17 AM PDT by tioga
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To: madprof98

My favorite? Can you quote some posts where I say that? You know you cannot, so do not lie, if you can help it.


21 posted on 07/19/2006 10:12:26 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: BlessedBeGod

Why, yes, in fact - that's not how you spell "intelligent". Glad to help you out.


22 posted on 07/19/2006 10:13:22 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: tioga

It's not a news article, it's an editorial piece. And yes, I think it's silly to speculate on who JESUS would vote for.


23 posted on 07/19/2006 10:14:40 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: guitar4jesus
Obama = Stealth Moslem

I've wondered about that...
and his fellow Senator from Illinois might as well be "The Jihadis' Senator".
24 posted on 07/19/2006 10:15:48 AM PDT by VOA
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To: linda_22003

Linda wrote: "He's not registered, and he's not a resident; he can't vote in American elections"

You obviously don't know elections in Illinois.


As for Obama, he'd be the first to be killed by the radical Moslems. He is very much of the belief that there are many paths to god and it doesn't matter which path you take.... and it doesn't matter which god your path leads to.

Except that if you claim your path is the only path, then your path and your god are ont acceptable and must be banished from public discourse.


25 posted on 07/19/2006 10:16:38 AM PDT by spintreebob
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To: linda_22003

Touche. As a Christian I am quite sure I know who Jesus would vote for. I don't need anyone telling me.


26 posted on 07/19/2006 10:16:46 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Caleb1411

Guess Obama isn't concerned with the slaughter of black babies, either.


27 posted on 07/19/2006 10:17:00 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Leaning on the everlasting arms.)
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To: linda_22003
He's not registered, and he's not a resident; he can't vote in American elections.

Has this ever stopped Democrats before? I'm sure that he's registered in more than one precinct. And, that he votes regularly.

28 posted on 07/19/2006 10:19:35 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Caleb1411
Related:
29 posted on 07/19/2006 10:20:18 AM PDT by Gelato
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To: linda_22003

Thanks to Jesus, I've been rendering votes Caesar's way every election.


30 posted on 07/19/2006 10:24:54 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Gelato

There's just something about that guy!!


31 posted on 07/19/2006 10:31:10 AM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: dsc
......"It makes me sick, the way some so-called "conservatives" treat Alan Keyes.".....

Amen! It bears repeating.

On the other hand, it makes me sick to see what passes for conservatism today. Snow and Chaffe are not "moderates". I'm more of a Ronald Reagan moderate.

32 posted on 07/19/2006 10:31:17 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: tioga

I thought we were required to know what God (Jesus) wants us to do and do exactly that. Isn't that why we study the Bible? It is just that the libs have twisted thinking and reasoning. But this IS what a Christian is expected to do.


Fine you can do that and I do as well, but when you say "Would Jesus vote for such and such?" I believe that it is done in a disrespectful way. I can't stand the libs when they do this. It is done like some stupid tag line or something. It is not done in a serious way. Yes we are in the year 2006, but Jesus was not for the "in" things. We don't need to have a "cool Jesus". We need to understand right and wrong and learn what is in the Bible, but let's use the Bible as it was designed. If the libs want to quote the words of Jesus fine, but not in a fadish way...Just my opinion, but those that do this are not funny IMHO.


33 posted on 07/19/2006 10:32:00 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: wbill

I'd hold Jesus to higher standards of honesty than the comparison you make. I'm sorry you don't.


34 posted on 07/19/2006 10:32:25 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: napscoordinator
I said when Barack Obama won election to Senate that he will be Hillary VP. And I still believe it.
35 posted on 07/19/2006 10:35:45 AM PDT by ducks1944 (GOD Bless the USA .)
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To: der guten tag hop klop
Strange article, but it involved a goofy comment from Alan Keyes, so strangeness was inevitable.

"And will you profane Me among My people…
killing people who should not die,
and keeping people alive who should not live…?" Ezek. 13:19

Keyes was only goofy to those blind on this subject.

36 posted on 07/19/2006 10:38:27 AM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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To: Gelato

Thank you for your link sir...


37 posted on 07/19/2006 10:43:33 AM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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To: napscoordinator

I can't say I disagree with anything you have stated.


38 posted on 07/19/2006 10:48:26 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Caleb1411

I don't think Jesus would vote for anyone...Wasn't he a Monarchist?
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39 posted on 07/19/2006 10:48:38 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Caleb1411

bttt


40 posted on 07/19/2006 11:26:03 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (To exercise your first amendment rights, go to college. To defend them, join the military.)
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To: Caleb1411

bttt


41 posted on 07/19/2006 11:32:46 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (To exercise your first amendment rights, go to college. To defend them, join the military.)
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To: linda_22003
Sorry for the misunderstanding, and I hope that I didn't offend. Please let me clarify.

I'm sure that Dems have registered to vote under Jesus' name in many precincts. As they have in their pet's names, dead people's names, cartoon character's names, etc.... Some things are not held sacred.

How else can anyone explain 100+ percent voter turnout in some precincts?

42 posted on 07/19/2006 11:41:26 AM PDT by wbill
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To: mugs99
I don't think Jesus would vote for anyone...Wasn't he a Monarchist?

Actually, it's even worse. He was one of those awful theocrats.

</sarcasm>

43 posted on 07/19/2006 12:57:35 PM PDT by Gelato
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To: LowOiL
"I am neither. I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush Most appropriate tagline!
44 posted on 07/19/2006 1:00:18 PM PDT by Gelato
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To: Kenny Bunkport
I don't care who Jesus would vote for;

I don't think He would care about voting - He has more important things to worry about and bigger battles to fight.
45 posted on 07/19/2006 1:00:33 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Caleb1411
Why Jesus would not vote for Barack Obama

Never bothered to register to vote?

46 posted on 07/19/2006 1:26:09 PM PDT by Kenton
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47 posted on 07/19/2006 1:29:23 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Gelato

"we actually have a situation in Illinois where, in the hospitals, a baby born alive after a botched abortion, where the nurse is standing there holding this living baby, separate from the mother, in her arms, and there is a practice of putting the baby aside in the soiled linen bin, or wherever, to just let that child die."

Dear Lord Jesus, have mercy on us for not rising up and putting an end to this iniquity.

Forgive me my sins, O Lord.
The sins of my youth, the sins of my age;
My sins of omission, my serious sins;
The sins I remember, the sins I have hidden for so long and which are now hidden from my memory;
Forgive me all my sins, O Lord.
I am truly sorry for every sin, mortal and venial, from my childhood to the present hour.
I know that my sins have offended your loving heart, My Savior.
Through thy bitter passion and death, free me from the power of sin and give me a new heart.
O my Jesus, forget and forgive what I have been...

...And what I remain, because I remain at my desk, relying on the excuse that I have to support my family, instead of taking to the streets and doing whatever it takes to end the abomination of infanticide.


48 posted on 07/19/2006 3:47:09 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Caleb1411
Why Jesus would not vote for Barack Obama

Because Barack Obama is black and Jesus was a Jooooooo!!!!

49 posted on 07/19/2006 4:11:42 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: linda_22003

Top Ten?


50 posted on 07/19/2006 4:15:50 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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