Posted on 07/19/2006 9:31:11 AM PDT by Caleb1411
In February 2004, U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama's wife, Michelle, sent a fund-raising letter with the "alarming news" that "right-wing politicians" had passed a law stopping doctors from stabbing half-born babies in the neck with scissors, suctioning out their brains and crushing their skulls.
Michelle called partial-birth abortion "a legitimate medical procedure," and wouldn't supporters please pay $150 to attend a luncheon for her husband, who would fight against "cynical ploy[s]" to stop it?
But that's not why Obama's opponent Alan Keyes said Jesus Christ wouldn't vote for him.
Obama recalled Keyes' statement in a recent USA Today opinion piece but omitted his reasoning.
I know his reasoning, because I was there.
As a nurse at an Illinois hospital in 1999, I discovered babies were being aborted alive and shelved to die in soiled utility rooms. I discovered infanticide.
Legislation was presented on the federal level and in various states called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. It stated all live-born babies were guaranteed the same constitutional right to equal protection, whether or not they were wanted.
BAIPA sailed through the U.S. Senate by unanimous vote. Even Sens. Clinton, Kennedy and Kerry agreed a mother's right to "choose" stopped at her baby's delivery.
The bill also passed overwhelmingly in the House. NARAL went neutral on it. Abortion enthusiasts publicly agreed that fighting BAIPA would appear extreme. President Bush signed BAIPA into law in 2002.
But in Illinois, the state version of BAIPA repeatedly failed, thanks in large part to then-state Sen. Barack Obama. It only passed in 2005, after Obama left.
I testified in 2001 and 2002 before a committee of which Obama was a member.
Obama articulately worried that legislation protecting live aborted babies might infringe on women's rights or abortionists' rights. Obama's clinical discourse, his lack of mercy, shocked me. I was naive back then. Obama voted against the measure, twice. It ultimately failed.
In 2003, as chairman of the next Senate committee to which BAIPA was sent, Obama stopped it from even getting a hearing, shelving it to die much like babies were still being shelved to die in Illinois hospitals and abortion clinics.
(As chair of that same committee, Obama once abruptly ended a hearing early, right before Scott and Janet Willis, the parents of six children killed as a result of Illinois' drivers licenses for bribes scandal, were to testify in favor of Choose Life license plate legislation. I was there for that one, too. The Willises had traveled three hours. Reporters filled the room. Obama stalled. He later killed the bill when no one was around.)
So, the reason Keyes said Jesus Christ wouldn't vote for Barack Obama was because of Obama's fanatical support of abortion to the point of condoning infanticide.
I have framed on my wall a Chicago Sun-Times cartoon published during the campaign. Obama is holding a sign with "LIVE BIRTH ABORTION" on it. God is reaching down from heaven to a baby in front of Obama, and the baby is reaching up to God. Obama is yelling at God, "You keep out of this!"
In his USA Today opinion piece, Obama admitted being "nagged" by the Jesus-wouldn't-vote-for-him statement, but only because he wished he'd given a different comeback.
Obama insinuated opposition to abortion is based only on religion, lecturing pro-lifers like me to "explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all."
I don't recall mentioning religion when I testified against live-birth abortion. I only recall describing a live aborted baby I held in a hospital soiled utility room until he died, and a live aborted baby who was accidentally thrown into the trash.
Neither do I recall religion being brought into the partial-birth abortion ban debate. I recall comparisons made to U.S. laws ensuring animals being killed are treated humanely. I recall testimony that late-term babies feel excruciating pain while being aborted.
Obama stated pro-life proposals must be "amenable to reason."
OK, Sen. Obama, let's reason. Explain why you support abortion for whatever rationale, at whatever gestation, by whatever means. Explain why you support infanticide, if banning it might interfere with abortion.
Then, since you brought it up, explain how, despite all that, you think Jesus should vote for you, either now or in the hereafter, particularly given His statement, "It would be better to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around the neck than to face the punishment in store for harming one of these little ones."
Jill Stanek fought to stop "live-birth abortion" after witnessing one as a registered nurse at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Ill. In 2002, President Bush asked Jill to attend his signing of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. In January 2003, World Magazine named Jill one of the 30 most prominent pro-life leaders of the past 30 years. To learn more, visit Jill's blog, Pro-life Pulse.
My favorite? Can you quote some posts where I say that? You know you cannot, so do not lie, if you can help it.
Why, yes, in fact - that's not how you spell "intelligent". Glad to help you out.
It's not a news article, it's an editorial piece. And yes, I think it's silly to speculate on who JESUS would vote for.
Linda wrote: "He's not registered, and he's not a resident; he can't vote in American elections"
You obviously don't know elections in Illinois.
As for Obama, he'd be the first to be killed by the radical Moslems. He is very much of the belief that there are many paths to god and it doesn't matter which path you take.... and it doesn't matter which god your path leads to.
Except that if you claim your path is the only path, then your path and your god are ont acceptable and must be banished from public discourse.
Touche. As a Christian I am quite sure I know who Jesus would vote for. I don't need anyone telling me.
Guess Obama isn't concerned with the slaughter of black babies, either.
Has this ever stopped Democrats before? I'm sure that he's registered in more than one precinct. And, that he votes regularly.
And there's been an effort in the state legislature to stop this practice, and three times Barack Obama has voted against the bill that would stop the practice of letting these babies die. And I was simply saying that as a person of Christian conscience, when I vote, I have to ask myself the same question I ask in other things: am I representing Christ, and if I have somebody representing me--it's just like in my campaign, I try to tell my campaign people, if we're running under a rubric that says we're trying to be faithful people when we deal with other human beings in the campaign or outside of the campaign, we have to reflect that commitment of faith. We can't be representing something that would be false to the banner we're flying under.
And that's true of voting. You know, I can't send somebody off to represent me in the Senate of the United States who is not going to behave in a way that's compatible with my conscience, as shaped by the presence of Christ in my life. I have an obligation to use that vote in such a way that it doesn't contradict the conscientious requirements of my faith.
And I don't think Jesus would let that baby die. I think that He would do everything He could to save that life, just as He was willing to offer His own to save our lives in all eternity. And I think we know that, as Christian folks.
And so, this fellow asked me, "Well does this mean that Jesus Christ wouldn't vote for Barack Obama?" and I had to allow as how I think, as a conscientious Christian, no, Christ would not vote for such a person.
And then they tried to get me to say, "Well, does that mean that Christ would vote for you?" and I said, look, that's not what I'm saying. You know, because I think that that's something that other people would have to judge, based on where I stand and how they feel in conscience about what I offer.
Alan Keyes explains why "Jesus wouldn't vote for Obama" (Scott Thomas Show)
http://www.renewamerica.us/archives/media/interviews/04_09_07wyll.htm#obama
Thanks to Jesus, I've been rendering votes Caesar's way every election.
There's just something about that guy!!
Amen! It bears repeating.
On the other hand, it makes me sick to see what passes for conservatism today. Snow and Chaffe are not "moderates". I'm more of a Ronald Reagan moderate.
I thought we were required to know what God (Jesus) wants us to do and do exactly that. Isn't that why we study the Bible? It is just that the libs have twisted thinking and reasoning. But this IS what a Christian is expected to do.
Fine you can do that and I do as well, but when you say "Would Jesus vote for such and such?" I believe that it is done in a disrespectful way. I can't stand the libs when they do this. It is done like some stupid tag line or something. It is not done in a serious way. Yes we are in the year 2006, but Jesus was not for the "in" things. We don't need to have a "cool Jesus". We need to understand right and wrong and learn what is in the Bible, but let's use the Bible as it was designed. If the libs want to quote the words of Jesus fine, but not in a fadish way...Just my opinion, but those that do this are not funny IMHO.
I'd hold Jesus to higher standards of honesty than the comparison you make. I'm sorry you don't.
Keyes was only goofy to those blind on this subject.
Thank you for your link sir...
I can't say I disagree with anything you have stated.
I don't think Jesus would vote for anyone...Wasn't he a Monarchist?
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bttt
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