Posted on 07/20/2006 4:07:30 AM PDT by mikeyc
GLASGOW, Scotland, July 19, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Glasgow firefighters who refused to participate in a gay pride event may face disciplinary action, the Herald reported today.
Ten men from the Cowcaddens fire station are under investigation after they refused orders to man an information stall during the Pride Scotia parade. The men were told to attend the June 24 event in uniform and hand out leaflets on fire safety.
The Herald reported that some refused on grounds of conscience, while others were “embarrassed” to attend the event in uniform. Their superior officers reported the men for disobeying orders, said BBC News.
Scottish National Party MSP Fergus Ewing said disciplinary action against the men would be “unbelievable.”
“Firefighters are entitled to their private views. Since when was handing out leaflets at a gay event considered a firefighter’s core duty?”
The gay rights group Stonewall Scotland said the firefighters treated “lesbian and gay Scots” as “second-class citizens” by refusing to attend the event.
Strathclyde Fire and Rescue confirmed an investigation is underway in a press release July 12, saying “A number of firefighters are currently the subject of an internal investigation concerning the delivery of fire-safety advice at the recent Pride Scotia parade.” The fire and rescue organization is one of the largest in Europe, covering about 2.3 million residents.
I walked past a fire station in central London on Monday, and it had a banner over it's entrance claiming "London Fire Brigade Supports EuroPride 2006" with a rainbow flag emblazenned on it. Clearly the work of the socialist Mayor of London and his homosexualisation campaign. (I'm sure that someone here will be able to rewrite that slogan to say what that really means.)
How many other humiliations must they endure, and what other perversions must they be forced to condone?
Of course one could also remark that by denying the firefighters the right of conscience that they are being treated as second class citizens.
"One day a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets. Thank God for the rain." - Travis Bickle
"PC run amok" just doesn't cover it.
I sense more and more.........the general public are fed up with this bulls**t; a backlash is coming, and hard.
If a Scottish dyke wears a kilt, is it really crossdressing?
Backlash is coming; no doubt about that. And it may not be just from the people.
Is that still Red Ken Livingstone?
Is fire safety really on the minds of people who attend these events?
Or do these people just wanna see some guys dressed up like a fireman and possibly singing the YMCA song.
Didn't Hitler and the Nazis use to punish and reeducate dissenters? The Soviets and Chi-coms did the same.
Ok so the U.K. is becomming more like these democrat stalwarts.
Political Correctness has taken the place of Fascism in the West...they are both coercion and intimidation but PC puts on a nice smile before forcing citizens to act against their will. Terrorists watch all this and have a good laugh...it's like leaving for work and handing your house keys to a stranger parked in a van at the end of your driveway.
Disiplinary action should be taken only when firefighters refuse to respond equally to all alarms. Attending gay or other events should be voluntary,a firefighters job is to fight fires period!
'Geez... not even here in New York City would you EVER see such a sign over a fire station!'
But firefighters in Britain don't have to worry about being fired for not speaking the language of illegal immigrants:
http://www.katu.com/team2/story.asp?ID=87047
To be fair, I can understand those firefighters not wanting to go to a gay pride march, but on the other hand, it is a legal parade and firefighters are expected to follow orders and hand out fire safety advice at all sorts of parades and events they may not agree with.
We cannot have a fire service, police or military that will only do it's duty for people whose 'lifestyle' choices it agrees with.
We can have whatever we want. Unfortunately, we are being "told" what we want. Maybe you agree that it is an acceptable "alternate" lifestyle. I tend to agree with the old Psychiatric diagnosis of UNACCEPTABLE, DEVIANT behavior. Why do you think they even call themselves "queer"?
Homosexual behavior is nasty, degrading, and difficult. It is a perverse choice for physical gratification, not love. As a father of 5, I can call them whatever I want, and spit on their graves! As a Christian, I will shake the dust off my feet!
'Homosexual behavior is nasty, degrading, and difficult. It is a perverse choice for physical gratification, not love. As a father of 5, I can call them whatever I want, and spit on their graves! As a Christian, I will shake the dust off my feet!'
I am no fan of homosexuality, but we both live in a country where such practices are legal and I see no coherent reason for denying fire protection, medical care or police protection to those whose sexuality I disagree with provided they pay their taxes and fund those services.
If, God forbid, one of your five children turns out to be homosexual, would you want them to be denied such public services?
Not handing out fire safety brochures is not denying fire protection.
You realize of course that the vast majority of gay folks don't want to make waves. They just want to quietly live their lives with dignity. It is the radical activist fringe that wishes to make a big deal out of everything --and these people don't necessarily speak for the entire gay "community" despite the fact that they seem to think they do.
The firemen ought to have put up their own banner: "Keep Your Hoses to Yourselves".
Perhaps so, these events do seem bring out the real flamers.
Looking back at your posting history, I have no doubt that you're a British socialist who likes to throw in the occasional anti-U.S. to your posts.
DU or KOS might be more to your liking.
Hey mikey. Haven't seen you around here in a while.
I sense more and more.........the general public are fed up with this bulls**t; a backlash is coming, and hard.
I agree with you to a point. First of all I do believe that the public would be upset and a possible backlash could come to fruition if the public new about all these stories. Before I came to FREEPERS (I started lurking a year before I joined in 2005) I had no idea that homosexuals were so "out there". I sense the public does not recognize these problems. Of course with the gay marriage that is quite different (it can destroy the institution of marriage if it is approved) than these fireman getting fired (don't believe these stories are in our media).
Sodomites are a POX on the face of the world.
If they want to engage in their filthy practises in private - fine, but requiring public endorsement of their depraved abberrations has gotten totally out of hand.
Consequnetly, I think we need to "re-adjust" our attitude towards tolerating these people at all.
Push them back into the closet and nail the door shut.
I don't tolerate them at all.
I wouldn't get that close to the maggots.
"I have got a hosepipe,
"I have got a hosepipe,
"I have got a hosepipe,
"What shall I do with it?"
I don't think the homersexuals are interested in fire safetly..........
It continues to amaze me that 1-2% of the population gets to set the agenda.
The American Indians should take a clue from the gay community on how to bully people when you don't have numbers.
So what? I had a "gay" cousin up until a week ago. He was of the sort that you speak of. Quiet and not bothering anyone. Those are just the kinds of people who need to speak out against the militant queers. Just like all those so-called "moderate" muslims need to speak out against the radical terrorist types. Instead, they just leave be and hope somebody else will clean up the mess they should be cleaning up themselves.
My children are smarter than that!
I do not wish to support a homosexual lifestyle with gum't subsidies for healthcare, etc. They should receive the end they chose, not delay it on our dime, so they can continue the degradation and deviancy. Sorry that you seem to think they are acceptable. To me, they are anathema!
I am doing all I can to make the practice illegal again (at least in our faces!).
What is "dignified" about their activity? It has the opposite effect, and causes premature death to many, whle expending our resources to continue playing with gerbils!
Help!!!!
'Not handing out fire safety brochures is not denying fire protection.'
No, it's denying fire prevention, which most firefighters will tell you matters more. . . .
'Looking back at your posting history, I have no doubt that you're a British socialist who likes to throw in the occasional anti-U.S. to your posts.
DU or KOS might be more to your liking.'
Yes, that's right - I'm a socialist who's been a member of the Conservative party since I was 16 and have a framed letter on my wall signed personally by Margaret Thatcher thanking me for my efforts in her elections successes in 1983 and 1987. My supposedly anti-american posts are a drop in the ocean compared to the rabid anti-British posts that are a daily occurance here.
'My children are smarter than that!'
I sincerely hope so.
'I do not wish to support a homosexual lifestyle with gum't subsidies for healthcare, etc.'
Then who do you support? I don't see the Republican party advocating any changes with regard to the homosexuality laws of your country.
'Sorry that you seem to think they are acceptable. To me, they are anathema!'
I don't think their sexual activity is acceptable, but as a Christian I must forgive them and pray they see the error of their ways. As a Christian I expect my Christian society to act in a Christian way towards them and not act like muslims by getting offended.
I sense more and more.........the general public are fed up with this bulls**t; a backlash is coming, and hard.
Ditto. I hope you are right because I am so very very tired of them
I hope to God that the normal firemen band together and protest this.
And one would be correct. But then the new idea emerges, subtly pushed by the left, that by not going along, by refusing the obvious and enlightenend (with sarcasm) position of pro-homosexuality, maybe, hints the lefties in charge, we can infer they are second class citizens. You know, the new hate. Like here, it's okay to hate those nasty Christians on the right, they're dumb and they just don't get it. That mentality. And it's then just another way, a socialist propaganda way, to push the agenda. Bravo to the men for holding to their conscience.
Jesus told the woman "go and sin no more!" He did NOT say, "continue in your filth!" Homoxexuals (faggots, queers, and all the other names they call themselves) do not conform to our "social fabric", so they should not receive the benefit of it! Nice try!
I pray they will go away!
No. Attending their little party implies acceptance of their sinful practices. It was a gay pride event and it's purpose is to celebrate a "gay" lifestyle. Attending implies acceptance. Forcing attendance means forcing acceptance which is the whole point. Gays want to force acceptance.
As a post above remembers... gays LOVE men in uniform. Don't know if you're old enough to remember "YMCA." But firemen are among the 'fantasy objects' of gay men.
Would you FORCE a pretty young woman to go to the 'Dirty Old Men" convention? And don't tell me that's different... these people define themselves by their sexual behavior. And that 'identity' is literally on parade at these 'pride' events. Those MANY of us who do not approve of, or are troubled by, that behavior, should not be foreced into attending such an event.
Have you ever seen one? It is not a parade like any other, as you seem to think. Take it from me... I lived in San Francisco at the height of it all. It is truly gross. Check out the thread on the Boston parade. Ick.
Your argument is that this 'lifestyle' is legal, a matter of choice. So the decision to support/attend the Gay "Pride" Parade should be a matter of choice. The booth duty at this event should be voluntary. And no punishment for not volunteering should EVER be considered. I hope these guys fight back hard. (ahem)
My children got spankings when they were small. I had very few problems when they grew! Eldest is a cop, second is a teacher, and three more good well-rounded kids! They can shoot, swim, and walk. they all cook, and know how to pick up after themselves! They were taught about sex, and God's plan.
Not a thing. The author (Allie Martin) of the article I provided and the person she wrote about, Mike Haley (a former homosexual), agree with you. That's why I provided the link. J
What better than a former homosexual telling Christians:
According to Haley, tolerance has a double meaning to homosexual activists -- but those Christians who are willing to stand up for God's Word, he says, must not be tolerant of sin or falsehood.In other words, you're saying all the right things here.
You'll get no argument from me. I posted the link in response to pageonetoo's reference to what Jesus told the woman caught in adultery: leave your life of sin.
Jesus also said: "Judge not, lest ye be judged."
Why are you so rabid about this subject? Is there something hitting too close to home here?
"Do not conform to our 'social fabric' "!!! Sounds just a bit Stalin-like. Or something I would read on D.U. How is insisting that everyone "conform" any different than the left's P.C. police? I don't see much difference between them and you - both are inflexible and both insist that everyone agree with them, and if they don't - there's something obviously wrong with them.
All right folks - everybody had better "conform" to our "social fabirc" OR ELSE!
Pretty lame try. You think by denigration you can make a point? You have yet to make one! That is typical when you have no good answer,
I'm pretty laissez-faire libertarian when it comes to social issues.. really, who cares what the homos do to each other in the privacy of their own futon?
But this is just... wrong.
So if they are straight, they cannot be proud of that?
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