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TWA 800: Ten Years After
Media Monitor ^ | 7/21/2006 | Roger Aronoff

Posted on 07/21/2006 6:09:14 AM PDT by Mike Bates

The tenth anniversary of the destruction of TWA Flight 800 shows that government and media cover-ups do succeed. The prevailing myth is that the fuel-tank somehow exploded, causing the plane to crash. But the evidence shows it was destroyed by missiles. The possibility of a terrorist attack, which would have been a huge embarrassment for the Clinton Administration, cannot be ruled out.

It is an event that should be treated as an ongoing investigation, and it's still not too late to determine the truth of what happened. What is not in dispute is that at 8:19 p.m. on July 17, 1996, the Boeing 747 took off from Kennedy Airport in New York, headed for Paris. About 12 minutes into the flight, the plane exploded, killing all 230 people aboard, as the burning wreckage fell into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Long Island.

Some 260 people, unknown to each other, witnessed an object flying toward Flight 800, and of those, 92 saw the object rise from the surface. These are all people who gave sworn statements to the FBI. The eyewitnesses include highly reliable people like Maj. Fred Meyer, an attorney and pilot who is a recipient of the Distinguished Flying Cross for his service in Vietnam. The night that TWA 800 went down, Meyer was flying a helicopter for his National Guard unit, and had perhaps the best perspective of anyone who witnessed the tragedy. I described in a commentary last November his frustrating experience trying to describe to the FBI what he saw, and other examples of the compelling evidence that strongly indicate that TWA 800 was brought down by missiles, and covered up by the government. The evidence includes explosive residue found in the wreckage, radar data, and testimony. . . SNIP

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: twaflight800

1 posted on 07/21/2006 6:09:16 AM PDT by Mike Bates
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To: Mike Bates

The day the truth comes out about twa800 is the day the miitary lets Saddam out of prison and say, "Sorry Saddam, here's your country back for you to govern with an iron fist, we're outta here."


2 posted on 07/21/2006 6:14:22 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
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To: Mike Bates
The simple fact that they have never been able to reproduce the alleged explosion in tests and simulations should tell you something.

The one test that "did work".... was a rigged experiment with 40% avgas and 60% jet-a - which is explosive even without a spark.

3 posted on 07/21/2006 6:17:47 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Mike Bates

AS LONG AS I LIVE, I WILL NEVER BELIEVE THAT TWA-800 WAS AN ACCIDENT...................


4 posted on 07/21/2006 6:19:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: xcamel

Who did that test? NBC?.........


5 posted on 07/21/2006 6:20:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: Mike Bates
Clinton's boy... Tony Lake just had a puff piece done by CNN on TWA800. He was blubbering that right from the gitgo... they thought that Iran was behind it. That is of course until the 'experts' ruled it out.

Now... that's pure BS coming from anybody in the Clinton administration... but I think it was done for a purpose. The purpose being that TWA800 was taken down by missile/s... and that new information will prove it.

6 posted on 07/21/2006 6:23:27 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: Mike Bates

bump


7 posted on 07/21/2006 6:25:18 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: Mike Bates
A friend of mine at the Kennedy Space Center did spectral analysis on some of the debris and he found rocket motor residue.
8 posted on 07/21/2006 6:28:09 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Mike Bates

The possibility of a terrorist attack, which would have been a huge embarrassment for the Clinton Administration, cannot be ruled out.

Very similar to john doe #2 at the OKC bombing. Witnesses reported an arabic looking 2nd suspect. klinton didnt need a islamic terror group killing folks here, but a right wing paramilitary bunch, now that was perfect! SO, forget about #2, kill McVeigh off in record time, sweep it under the rug in time for the '06 election. Incidentally, look at the composite of john doe #2, then look at jose padilla. Now check McVeigh's wife's maiden name. padilla.


9 posted on 07/21/2006 6:37:31 AM PDT by weezel
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To: weezel

McVeigh was never married. Where did you find a wife?


10 posted on 07/21/2006 6:45:55 AM PDT by Pugsy
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To: Mike Bates

So why doesn't Bush just expose the massive coverup?


11 posted on 07/21/2006 6:50:50 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Mike Bates
The possibility of a terrorist attack, which would have been a huge embarrassment for the Clinton Administration, cannot be ruled out.

You mean, for one momentous moment, it wasn't Bush's fault?

12 posted on 07/21/2006 6:53:52 AM PDT by WIladyconservative
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To: Gone GF

He's had more important things to do, like expand medicare, enact Campaign Finance Reform, and give billions to huge farming conglomerates.


13 posted on 07/21/2006 7:06:51 AM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: coloradan

"He's had more important things to do, like expand medicare, enact Campaign Finance Reform, and give billions to huge farming conglomerates."

You forgot his important work in expanding the education bureaucracy through NCLB.


14 posted on 07/21/2006 7:15:48 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Gone GF

Darned if I know. Maybe some sense of not "tarnishing" the Klintoon legacy?


15 posted on 07/21/2006 7:16:11 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: WIladyconservative

Well, maybe just that one time. . .


16 posted on 07/21/2006 7:16:37 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Gone GF

Yes, that, and opening the borders, and a lot of other things. He's been too busy to pull the lid off Kirintong's corruption. Way too busy.


17 posted on 07/21/2006 7:18:04 AM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: Pugsy

Are you sure of that?


18 posted on 07/21/2006 7:18:44 AM PDT by weezel
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To: Mike Bates

"Darned if I know. Maybe some sense of not "tarnishing" the Klintoon legacy?"

Hard to believe Bush cares about that. And even if he DOES, I'm darned sure Rove and Cheney wouldn't.


19 posted on 07/21/2006 7:19:03 AM PDT by Gone GF
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To: Red Badger; Flyer; Eaker; humblegunner; TheMom; Xenalyte; dasher; Allegra; pax_et_bonum; ...

It wasn't...

But as individuals, once again, we'll lose this battle, and they'll win the public trust...ad nauseum...

I was, and still retain the training and experience as a military radar operator...I'm not talking about all the "processed" imagery that is piped to most Air Traffic Controllers these days...Although there are fallbacks to their systems, it is not a common method of controlling our skys...

I had a chance after this aircraft went down to look at some tape (raw radar data) of the area in question...And after desseminating all of the clutter and other explainable returns on the screen (i.e.: running rabbits, et. al.)...

TWA800 was clearly identifiable and able to be tracked easily...

Since a ground/sea launched hand-held SAM has a short flight time, you usually only get lucky to see a single sweep return on these things if you're watching for one...So timing is more like luck than intentional...

The quality of the tape was not as good as I figured it would be, so there is not much you can do about that...

So my input and theory is based more on how this could possibly have happened...

If you are of the type that believes everything the government tells you is gospel, far be it from me to try and convince those people otherwise...

But, if you think like the bad guys in this one, the results are obvious...And something that I do not believe was as thoroughly investigated as it should have been...

- private boat (charter, no paperwork etc etc)

- scanner set to monitor departure and control freq's

- listen for a target of opportunity, TWA800 was a regular scheduled flight, in a list of many others that evening..."TWA800 heavy"...Learn the terminology...

- position yourself under the departure corridor, and wait

- The next step is elementary...

- after the attack, blend in with the recovery folks, and wait for the chance to exit the area without drawing too much attention...

- operation complete...

Then you ask yourself, who benefits from both sides of the argument of terrorist attack, or terrible accident?

Since it was investigated and determined to be an accident, who or whom benefitted from that conclusion?

If it had been determined to be a terrorist attack, who would have benefitted from that conclusion?

When you look at these events with the blinders off, it doesn't so much difuse or complicate things anymore than they already are...So the tone set at the begining is critical...In this case they did not want it to go any farther than it did in regards to a terrorist attack...So they let the conspiracy theorist take that idea and run it into the ground making it easier to dismiss and strengthen their conclusion even more...

Its been like this for as long as I can remember...

So what do we do about it?

I have an idea, but as an individual, its hard to get that wave going...

Later,
Steve


20 posted on 07/21/2006 7:31:38 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans)
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To: Pugsy

WOW-what a small world after all,Timothy McVeigh's wife was from a Islamic Jihadists group in that area that was connected to the Militant Muslim group he met while he was in Saudi-Arabia during the Gulf-war.


http://www.jaynadavis.com/

I found this. I dont know if it proves McVeigh was married though, as there is PILES of info there.


21 posted on 07/21/2006 7:31:46 AM PDT by weezel
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To: weezel

I think it was Nichols who was married to Lana Padilla.


22 posted on 07/21/2006 7:34:49 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Mike Bates

BUSH'S FAULT!!...oops, wrong prez! :)


23 posted on 07/21/2006 7:38:17 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Pugsy

Terry Nichols former wife's maiden name was Lana Padilla


24 posted on 07/21/2006 7:47:00 AM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: weezel
An excerpt from:

http://okcbombing.org/News%20Articles/Padilla/padilla_wsj.htm

Then there's the detail that so tantalizes many conspiracy theorists: Lana Padilla is the former wife of Mr. Nichols, charged as Mr. McVeigh's accomplice and sentenced to life in prison.

Ms. Padilla laughed when a local television talk show called to ask her about the matching names. She says she's never met Jose Padilla and isn't related to him.

But she, too, believes there was a larger conspiracy at work. After the bombing, she gave police a letter she received in 1994 from Mr. Nichols before one of his trips to the Philippines. In the letter, she says, he suggested he was "afraid of something or somebody." Ms. Padilla speculates he was worried he might be harmed if he identified his co-conspirators.

The more she looks at the mug shots, the more intrigued she becomes. "At first I found it funny," she says. "Now I think we should investigate this."


25 posted on 07/21/2006 7:48:47 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: Gone GF

Another case of the ruling class vs the unwashed.


26 posted on 07/21/2006 8:45:19 AM PDT by newcthem (This is the final crusade, there are only two sides: pick one.(Brought to you by the Infidel Party))
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