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To: DJ MacWoW
Levay "I did not prove that homosexuality was genetic, or find a cause for being gay."

You are attributing meaning to him that is beyond what he is alleged to have said. I say alleged because that piece had the ring of a diatribe, not a piece of scientific work.

The idea of a gay gene, if it ever existed, has been discarded. If there is a prenatal factor, the thought is that it is something in the prenatal environment. Something that happens in the womb, during gestation. Assuming LeVay was accurately quoted, his comment did not rule that out at all if you think about it.

As for the part that he did not find a biological contributor, now really DJ. You can reason well enough to acknowledge that just because LeVay admits he didn't find such a factor, it doesn't mean that further research will not discover one. It might, it might not.

I would like to see you willing to be open-minded. If that is asking too much, we will have to agree to disagree on this topic.

33 posted on 07/23/2006 10:38:40 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited
If there is a prenatal factor, the thought is that it is something in the prenatal environment. Something that happens in the womb, during gestation. Assuming LeVay was accurately quoted, his comment did not rule that out at all if you think about it.

LeVay said: I didn't show that gay men were born that way, the most common mistake people make in interpreting my work."

As for the part that he did not find a biological contributor, now really DJ. You can reason well enough to acknowledge that just because LeVay admits he didn't find such a factor, it doesn't mean that further research will not discover one. It might, it might not.

The point was that Anthony Bogaert miused data.

I would like to see you willing to be open-minded. If that is asking too much, we will have to agree to disagree on this topic.

I'm the one that's closeminded? LOL You use a discredited psychologist to back up your opinion but I'm closeminded. ;)

36 posted on 07/23/2006 10:46:03 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: freespirited
The idea of a gay gene, if it ever existed, has been discarded. If there is a prenatal factor, the thought is that it is something in the prenatal environment. Something that happens in the womb, during gestation. Assuming LeVay was accurately quoted, his comment did not rule that out at all if you think about it.

Because no gay gene can be found, the gay movement will change tactics. Now it's "gestation".

From LeVay: " . . . people who think that gays and lesbians are born that way are more likely to support gay rights."

No scientific basis for 'born gay' theory

38 posted on 07/23/2006 11:07:17 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: freespirited
The idea of a gay gene, if it ever existed, has been discarded. If there is a prenatal factor, the thought is that it is something in the prenatal environment. Something that happens in the womb, during gestation.

The very fact that this witch hunt for a biological basis for homosexuality continues *after* the realization that there is no gay gene says a great deal. It begins with an assumption that there must be a biological basis for this deviant behavior (those who promote can't have it any other way after all) and following the mapping of the genome and the realization that there is no gay gene the assumption is made that there must be some biological prenatal factor at fault.

This isn't science; it's a philosophical attempt at defending humanist orthodxy against scientific data.
40 posted on 07/24/2006 1:11:25 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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