Skip to comments.Why Can't My Liberal Friends Talk Politics
Posted on 07/21/2006 5:12:21 PM PDT by jhw61
Not once since Hizbollah kidnapped two Israeli soldiers, killed a young Israeli citizen have my liberal friends mentioned once in office conversation. Today I felt totally shut up when one of my co-workers made a comment about "my governor, Mitt Romney" and new benefit rules for MassHealth. I started to respond and was shut down by another co-worker who said O.k. let's not talk politics. I said "You democrates never want to talk politics." It's so frustrating. Day after day after I spend my evenings here on FR, my liberal co-workers talk about the next pair of curtains they are going to buy, wow, those Red Sox are so hot, etc.,...I'm surrounded by what I would say are people who really don't care about what goes on around them, unaware how what goes on in the world should affect them. My four fellow female co-workers never want to Discuss anything. Their feeling is people should be able to believe what they want, worship who they want and that's it. What is wrong with me. Why do I feel so isolated? Yes, I live in liberal Massachusetts and that should be the answer right there but I could use some encouraging comments. Thank you for considering my thread my wondersul fellow Freepers. There has to more to life than talking about curtains and paint doesn't there?
If you were a democrat would you want to talk about politics? LOL
In these times, everyone's afraid of getting into political dust-ups at the water cooler.
Do you belong to a USDA-approved ethinc minority? It's practically a crime to argue with such.
You should try working with another FReeper, especially if you get paid by the hour!
Because they know they don't have facts or reason on their side, merely leftist superstitions.........
When you know (or at least believe) the deck is stacked and the deal is not looking good for you, that tends to cut conversation short.
Egos, particularly liberal egos, are often easily bruised.
The RATs can't really tell us the truth, that they hate America, and it's America's fault for every problem in the world. They cannot afford to betray their ignorance, stupidity, and generic hatred for everything American, including Israel.
RATs are too emotionally scarred to have an intelligent conversation.
That fairy tale is: Listen to your heart, not your brain.
It is a message pushed 24/7 in our culture. When someone in a movie, TV show or interview calls someone on their lack of intelligence, the ACCUSER is the bad person in that situation, for "insulting someone's intelligence."
Yet in these situations, the heroic character--usually a feeling, "compassinoate" woman--the one the TV show, interview or whatever has invested with moral authority, the audience is to applaud when someone calls someone out for "not caring" or "thinking only of money" or "Being selfish".
Our society is being overwhelmed by people who think logic is a sham, something machines deal with, while real, true, GOOD humans are motivated entirely by....their feeeeelings.
Or maybe your friends are just stupid.
As Reagan said, to paraphrase, it isn't that Democrats are ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't true.
Democrats are "intellectually challenged". They lack critical thinking skills, and knowledge of history. They take the propaganda they hear on TV and read in the newspapers as abolute fact.
Even on lunch or break diving deeply into any of those three subjects can cause ill will and division in a office team and you are a team. They are subjects that are very personal, very emotional and people do not act logically when they are arguing heatedly about them.
For political conversation I suggest you look outside of work. People who stir things up at the office tend not to be regarded well by management.
Hang in there,girl...multi-tasking is posible when it comes to politics and pop culture. Isreal needs to kick ass and so does Matt Kenseth...((;O)...
You know they did discuss politics with you, you just didn't notice it. The smartass remark about "your" governor, Mitt Romney, for example was straight out of the liberal asshat playbook. I would've told them, "You don't want to talk politics, then don't make stupid political statements like 'your governor', mmmmK?"
It doesn't help me to know this since I'm obsessed with politics, and media bias, etc., but the truth is very, very few people are interested in politics.
Often someone will toss off a comment that makes you think they are willing to discuss a subject, but usually that comment was as far as they want to go.
I quit having an interest in sports shortly after I quit playing them, yet sports probably has the widest interest level of any activity in America.
If I am bored by sports, it shouldn't surprise me that people are bored by the minutia of everyday politics.
Practice being a conversationalist, it will be easier to get women.
Since my bosses are Deaniac-grade moonbats, I mostly just get a sneaky rise out of confounding their lib stereotypes over what a conservative is.
Many folks would walk eight blocks out of their way just to avoid discussing politics or religion. That's fine. I hope they don't vote.
In some relationships, those things matter. In the office place, I tend to live and let live. In other circles, I wouldn't.
Ding ding ding ding ...... we have a winner!
This old truism seems to have been lost. Same goes for the dinner table. It's just bad manners.
Wow, thank you all for your responses. I guess I'm kinda lonely on the workfront. Thank you for your support. I will carry on but why should do I have to suppress what I feel? I do get my sarcastic comments in though. I call them my friends but I know as many of you do, that once you leave a job, it is not very often, that you really do stay in touch. Life goes on. I do like these women, they have been there for me in my struggle as a single parent and have some really good advice and I do think they are good women but boy, they just never want to go as deep as I do which makes me feel like I'm weird for the feelings that exist in my heart and soul. Thanks again. You Freepers are the best. Would any of you consider moving to Massachusetts? HahHah!
Well, that explains it right there.
I do know how you feel. We get in occasional dust-ups here at my office. I am usually the one to cut it short.
Normally we start off mildly, then disagree, then move to anger. There is always a bit of sarcasm on my part.
I stop because I can see they are going to lose, and it will cause weeks of icey realtions. I just want to wound them, I don't want to kill them.
The only time I felt the total isolation that you do is after the 2004 election. They had prepared a victory party for Kerry, just the day before. I had told them a couple of days before that they were deluded, and I didn't want to be here for the funeral atmosphere once they realized the truth.
It was so hard not to gloat. I managed to keep quiet all day. They were all, literally, crying. No one spoke to me all day.
The following day they claimed that my confidence had to have come from the fact that I knew Bush would "steal another one". They weren't joking.
Ah, I was laughing so hard and even jumped up and down a few times, each and everytime I was out of earshot.
The world is good. There is no sweeter place to be, than in the belly of the liberal beast (California) when Republicans win.
I knwo the feeling. My favorite is when you talk about something substantive like the need to win the war, and they come back with the retort that such conversation is "inappropriate" and demand to discuss last night's episode of Survivor. What the hell is "appropriate"?
If you are asking I'd say "don't discuss politics at the office". Especially since they have signaled they don't want to. If you persist you are opening your form, and maybe yourself, to a lawsuit.
Invite them out for a drink ... then discuss on your own time in your own arena.
I am a woman. They are my work friends. Not as deep as real "outside of work" friends or family but a whold bunch of them are liberals too!
I have an old friend who I went to High School with in Mass who is definitely in the Michael Moore/MoveOn.org-wing of the Democratic Party and works in Hollywood.
We used to talk.
I have repeatedly tried to initiate conversations.
He has literally not talked to me since the election of 2000.
I know. But what is a girl to do living in Massachusetts. Recently divorced and taking care of a young 7 year-old son. Believe me, I'd like nothing more than to move to Texas where my Liberal brother just moved to because of better income and an incredible mansion. Pray and thing of me. Thanks so much!
Trust me; it's safer this way.
I sure wouldn't.
Read the Liberal Lexicon copy it and leave it laying around at the office you want to make your liberal friends talk politics this will do it !
It's a very lonesome feeling, I sympathize.
Being a single parent you probably don't have time to find a like-minded conservative group --- church maybe? Or a political group? That would mean going out in the evening, though.
Hang in there, there are many of us in the same situation.
"There has to more to life than talking about curtains and paint doesn't there?"
Not at work...leave volatile subjects alone...
Wow, same here. My best friend really doesn't see me much. She invited me to her son's recent college graduation but I know I just cannot discuss politics. How sad it has become.
But looking at it from a managers point of view those subjects can be very harmful to the group.
A while ago I had to have a quiet word with one of my employees who was loudly denouncing the war in Iraq. She was doing it in full earshot of no less then three other employees who have children in Iraq and two others who are veterans themselves.
I basically told her to shut up if she planed to continue to work with them. She shut up and things smoothed over but not one of those employees will go out of their way to make her job easier. They do what is required and no more.
And her poor judgment in running her mouth and causing that rift insures that she will never get any job that requires leadership.
There is only one thing worse than a Liberal Democrat who won't talk politics ... and that is a Liberal Democrat who will!
I had a whack-job leftist friend from college with whom I would email back and forth about politics. He stopped responding after I proved to him that Michael Moore was a liar and Fahrenheit 911 was a big pack of lies.
Thank you for your kind words. They mean so much to me.
:-) Good one!!!
You can do what you want, but my advice - fwiw - don't talk politics in the workplace. I was discharged from my last job because my politics differed from those of management. My new personal rule is - Don't talk politics in the workplace or to co-workers outside of the workplace. Never ever.
Well "they" already think I do too much coffee in the morning. I guess coffee is too stimulating to the mind, hun. Thanks!
Contact your local GOP party for your county. Go to a function or two. Then offer to host a "coffee" function at your house. Ideas like that will get you with like-minded people.
Oh yeah, and don't send emails of a political nature from work. They read them. And don't visit political websites at work. They log them.
Really? Wow! I got to tell ya, I think I'm the only exciting woman in my office. I'm full of personality and sometimes I think I'm over the top with it. My job as a property manager is dealing with people all day long. And I truly think I do a good darn job. I have tried to tame myself down a bit from week to week but why should I have to not talk about polictics when they can talk about all the exciting things going on in the A-list Hollyweirdos. That's riduculous. I always say to them, when I'm gone, you are gonna miss me for the entertainment value alone because that's how I feel I am to them. I can crack everyone of them up. I'm quick and witty and I keep them laughing.