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CA: Schwarzenegger's star falls with Hispanics
AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/22/06 | Laura Kurtzman - ap

Posted on 07/22/2006 9:47:29 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: 68 grunt
Add the California Ilk Herd to the list.

What's a conservative to do?

Liberals call conservatives extremists and Republicans partisans refer to them as Ilk.

Democrats on the left will never get the conservative vote and Republicans are going to have a hard time in November with 15% of the electorate MIA as a result of vitriolic, partisan insults.

Good job Republicans. Excellent example of how to court your largest plurality of traditional supporters when you're already in the minority.

21 posted on 07/22/2006 6:33:45 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: NormsRevenge
Public Notice

1. Hello America. You lost a LONG time ago. You failed to stand up and DEMAND that your politicians do something about illegal immigration.

2. You aborted your race into oblivion. Hispanics by and large don't do that.

3. You became complacent and lazy and were unwilling to do work you considered beneath your dignity.

It's over.

22 posted on 07/22/2006 6:40:25 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Amerigomag
... Good job Republicans. ...

Thanks. The ilk would love to get 15% of conservatives staying home, that is your goal. Good thing the fifth columnist ilk herd only appeal to 1.5% of conservatives. The remainder have enough gray matter to see through the ilk facade.

23 posted on 07/22/2006 7:04:11 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt
The ilk would love to get 15% of conservatives staying home,

Good news and bad news:

The Good News (for California): The Ilk probably won't vote for a liberal Republican and certainly are urging Republicans to vote ... for a conservative.

The Bad News (for the CAGOP): During the last gubernatorial election, October 2003, the Ilk comprised about 15% of the electorate that exercised their franchise. Not about 15% of conservatives or not about 15% of Republicans but, according to the CSS, about 15% of the total votes cast for governor.

For those from Rio Linda or out of state, these contemporary stats means that the Ilk represent about 1/3 of registered Republicans in California and they obviously weren't happy with the Austrian then or the CAGOP now. Even mainstream, California, Republican supporteres/commentators like Jon Fleischman aren't happy with the Austrian's liberal forays.

Good luck and don't forget to clean up the mess when the big tent collapses.

24 posted on 07/22/2006 7:47:08 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag
... Good luck and don't forget to clean up the mess when the big tent collapses.

I know we won't be able to count on the ilk for help. Your specialty is collapse!

25 posted on 07/22/2006 7:53:31 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Amerigomag
... the Ilk comprised about 15% of the electorate that exercised their franchise.

15% of the electorate are lying phonies, pretending to be conservatives in order to cause division? I don't think so. The ilk herd are disruptor's, fifth columnists, deceivers.

26 posted on 07/22/2006 7:57:15 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt
I know we won't be able to count on the ilk for help.

Who is "we"? The CAGOP?

Help doing what? Giving support to La Raza? Going into Bondage to the tune of $6 billion for infant stem cell boondoggles? Papering over the state budget deficit with borrowed money, year after year? Trying to push another $87 billion in bonds thru that have already been earmarked for pork and patronage projects? Packing more Dem partisans onto the benches (not to mention the Governor's office)?

What exactly is the CAGOP asking for help with? Because very little of what the Gov is doing appears to have much to do with advancing conservative issues. I'll be voting, because there are down ticket candidates and issues, but if Arnold wants my chad, then he better by hell start pandering to me instead of Villaraigosa's flying monkeys.

27 posted on 07/22/2006 8:44:26 PM PDT by LexBaird ("Politically Correct" is the politically correct term for "F*cking Retarded". - Psycho Bunny)
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To: 68 grunt
The ilk herd are disruptor's, fifth columnists, deceivers.

Isn't that a shame. At one time conservatives were the most dependable constituency in the Republican Party. Today's GOP has abandoned conservatives and is pressing on with its liberal causes.

Conservatives inside the GOP are only recognized by the MSM to discredit the GOP. I wonder where conservatives will go?

Most probably they'll continue to support conservative candidates and causes and continue to work against liberals and liberalism. The irony is that many of the candidates that they'll refuse to support are within the Republican Party.

28 posted on 07/23/2006 4:45:41 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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... The irony is that many of the candidates that they'll refuse to support are within the Republican Party.

Stupid ilk.

29 posted on 07/23/2006 7:41:05 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt
Stupid (conservative) ilk

Welcome to our forum. Freepers can only hope that if Republicans regularly participate they may, some day, become conservatives.

In the meantime, welcome, but expect partisan promotion of liberals, championing liberal pursuits and philosophic pragmatism/nihilism to be challenged by the membership on the California Topic.

Also be mindful that attacks on conservatives, in their own house, does little but strengthen their resolve. "See I told you so!"; is a common reaction from Freepers when partisan Republican vitriol is used to condemn those who won't conform to the political party dictate of the day.

30 posted on 07/23/2006 8:39:55 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag
... Also be mindful that attacks on conservatives

You aren't a conservative, you regularly suggest support for demoncraps, you constantly try to reduce numbers who would vote for conservatives and you aren't the base. Your advice would do nothing but cost us elections. You are the one the wants conservatives to be thought of as your (stupid) ilk. This isn't your house, either, as you're one of the pretenders. Let me know when you can coalesce, rather than divide. Therein is the evidence you are not a fifth columnist disruptor.

31 posted on 07/23/2006 11:25:14 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt
Getting a bit uncomfortable?

No surprise. Happens to Republican partisans and especially moderate, Republican loyalists when they visit FreeRepublic.

Partisans lack core values, simply supporting party over principle. Partisans will support any candidate, regardless of that candidate's governing philosophy and historic actions, as long as that candidate is sponsored by the party.

Moderates can't understand that being against raising taxes isn't necessarily conservative. Moderates absolutely believe that verbal opposition to raising taxes is conservative, when in fact, it's pure moderation. Conservatives seek to reduce taxation. Conservatives advocate a reduction in taxation and actually reduce taxation.

Partisans would never consider voting for a member of an opposition party even if that opposition party's candidate's values were perfectly aligned with those of the partisan. From the perspective of the blind partisan, voting for a member of an opposition party is simple heresy.

Moderates spend a great deal of their time seeking consensus and have few values that they won't compromise to reach an amicable settlement of a pressing matter. Revolt is simply not in their political lexicon. They will join patriots on the barricades only if drug kicking and screaming from the comfort of their homes.

Blind partisans are retisant to act on their own behalf to pursue what is personally best for them as an individual. They instead, prefer to seek the comfort and guidance of others, typically party leaders, because they aren't confident of their own judgment and feel overwhelmed by political decisions. They prefer a collective process rather than a democratic process. Partisans have trouble accepting defeat in a democratic environment.

32 posted on 07/23/2006 7:48:21 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag
Getting a bit uncomfortable?

You're projecting, faux-conservative.

33 posted on 07/23/2006 7:56:22 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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