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Philadelphia may evict Boy Scouts council [unless it changes its policy on gays......]
Press of Atlantic City ^

Posted on 07/22/2006 2:27:11 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Philadelphia may evict Boy Scouts council The Associated Press Published: Saturday, July 22, 2006 Updated: Saturday, July 22, 2006

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - The city said it will evict a Boy Scout council from its publicly owned headquarters or make the group pay a fair rent price unless it changes its policy on gays.

The Boy Scouts' Cradle of Liberty Council, the country's third-largest, has been battling with the city for more than three years over the policy, which like the national Scouts organization forbids gays from being leaders.

City Solicitor Romulo L. Diaz Jr. wrote a letter to William T. Dwyer III, president of the Cradle of Liberty Council, stating that the council's "discriminatory policies" violate city policy and law, and that city officials have not been assured the group will not discriminate.

Unless the city gets a "fair-market rent agreement," the council will be evicted, the letter says.

The group has made its headquarters on a half-acre owned by the city in the upscale Philadelphia Art Museum area since 1928, when the city council voted to allow the Scouts to use the property rent-free "in perpetuity." The Scouts pay for building upkeep.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: barneyfranklikesboys; bsa; cradleofliberty; gaystapo; godblesstheboyscouts; homosexualagenda; mayorstreetssodom; phillystinksbadly; queerpoliticians; scouts
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1 posted on 07/22/2006 2:27:13 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

Ben Franklin doing more RPMs...


2 posted on 07/22/2006 2:27:49 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: Sub-Driver

Outrageous! My tagline is for them.


3 posted on 07/22/2006 2:28:50 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Sub-Driver

Click on photo to go to the Boy Scouts of America's legal issues website:


4 posted on 07/22/2006 2:30:45 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Sub-Driver

All your children are belong to us


5 posted on 07/22/2006 2:31:11 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Peace Through Victory)
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To: Sub-Driver

Well, if their lease says "rent-free in perpetuity", then the landlord would have to buy them out.


6 posted on 07/22/2006 2:34:01 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Sub-Driver

Gee, a "Brokeback Council" it appears.

This is the main reason I don't donate to the United Way. Other than their tactics, which is the 2nd reason I don't donate to them, that is.


7 posted on 07/22/2006 2:38:34 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: Sub-Driver

The City of Brotherly....I mean Butthole Love!


8 posted on 07/22/2006 2:44:21 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: Sub-Driver

Liberals demanding "Brokeback Boy Scouts" everywhere..... this is insanity and depravity....... what sane parent would allow their boys to join a youth organization which is required to allow pedophiles into its leadership? What sane society allows this kind of crap to continue?


9 posted on 07/22/2006 2:47:57 PM PDT by Enchante (Democrats: Trust Nancy Pelosi to Win the War on Terror!! (gag))
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To: Sub-Driver; RonF; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; Looking for Diogenes; Congressman Billybob; ...
Gen 13:13 But the men of Sodom [were] wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.



Gen 19:1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing [them] rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;


Gen 19:2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.


Gen 19:3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.


Gen 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, [even] the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:


Gen 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where [are] the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.


We all know how this story ends.....

Guess Phillie's lot (forgive the pun) may one day be that of Sodom and Gomorrah.
10 posted on 07/22/2006 2:49:13 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Sub-Driver

Somebody should sue the city of Phili for discrimination based on religion. That is actually more in line with what the founders meant by "Freedom of Religion".


11 posted on 07/22/2006 2:50:16 PM PDT by Revel
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To: scripter; DBeers

*sigh* ping


12 posted on 07/22/2006 2:56:30 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: Sub-Driver
since 1928, when the city council voted to allow the Scouts to use the property rent-free "in perpetuity."

has "perpetuity" ended?

legal binding contract?

My oldest son got up to Life Scout and well on his way to Eagle - got a new Scout Master - had to bail out of of a moving car to avoid being molested...couldn't 'prove' anything, so pervert allowed to keep position...son quit.

Several years later, and how many ? molested boys, he made the headlines when neighbors called cops about a fight in house next door - where the perp had a young boy cornered.

Heavens, let's not discriminate!

(Discriminate: intransitive verb; to pay attention to subtle differences and exercise judgment and taste...")

Where's the crime?

13 posted on 07/22/2006 3:02:17 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: Sub-Driver

"in perpetuity" must mean something different in Philadelphia.


14 posted on 07/22/2006 3:07:51 PM PDT by SmithL (The fact that they can't find Hoffa is proof that he never existed.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Notice that the radical gays use the threat to hurt the children when it comes to advancing their agenda. And who gets hurt worst, poor and minorities. The rich really don't need the Boy Scouts as much.

If gay people are looking for acceptance, this is not the way to go about it. It's ALL negative and NO positives.

15 posted on 07/22/2006 3:11:16 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New York Times? Get a rope!)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is so wrong. How can the city council renege on an agreement since 1928 that permits the Boy Scouts to use the 1/2 acre "in perpetuity"? Given the plight of the 40,000 kids, How do they have the testicles to kowtow to the queer community? GGGGGrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!


16 posted on 07/22/2006 3:12:56 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"unless it changes its policy on gays"

There's no agenda here, move along....

The accommodation of the faggot's extortion is beyond hope....Every deviate/criminal/social government-dependent loser in this country gets favorable treatment under the guise of the "equal protection clause" by Activist Judges and Liberal lawmakers. Heterosexual white males have become a Minority, but will NEVER be afforded the same treatment as special interests....

17 posted on 07/22/2006 3:13:02 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: Sub-Driver

The Boy Scouts should find out who else is in that building under what terms and file a discrimination suit.


18 posted on 07/22/2006 3:17:59 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Supporting the troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: GSlob

Judges have ruled the gov't does have to keep its word. People have donated land and buildings for a specified use with the provision the donated property be returned if the use is changed and the gov't laughs at them. A woman donated a farm for a nature preserve here in Indiana and the state sold the land to "fund education about nature at other sites".


19 posted on 07/22/2006 4:53:23 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: DBeers

List. Philadelphia doesn't like "morally straight".


20 posted on 07/22/2006 5:28:04 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Sub-Driver; darkangel82; AFA-Michigan; Abathar; AggieCPA; Agitate; AliVeritas; AllTheRage; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Additional links on the Boy Scouts and the Homosexual Agenda:

Scouting
     
 
2006
HIV Positive Scout Leader Faces Sex Trial
 
2005
Scouts targeted in San Diego
    What happened to the Girl Scouts?
    Food Network Reneges on Boy Scout Troop
    The Death of Canadian Scouting
    Legion stands up for Scouts after ACLU-DoD settlement
 
2003
United Way Capital Area to stop funding Boy Scouts
    Student wants Scouts off campus
    Boy Scout council 'devastated' by United Way cuts -program for inner-city children lost
    Judge says use violates separation of church and state
 
2002
Beyond Crafts and Cookies, Girl Scouts Are Prospering
    Boy Scouts v. Dale Amicus Brief (PDF)

21 posted on 07/22/2006 5:52:12 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Enchante
What sane society allows this kind of crap to continue?

This example of "defining deviancy down" is part of a single larger pattern, and almost everybody seems to have a vested interest in some piece of it. Just follow the ACLU'S ugly trail, and you'll find plenty of self-styled conservatives cheering on many their court-mandated efforts at social engineering. "You must respect my freedom!" quickly becomes "You must forget any values/morals you have and cheer me on when I gratify myself in whatever way I find pleasing!"

Think not? I remember when the civil libertarians fought to keep a notorious sex club open in what had been a public school building. Neighbors were horrified at what their children were being exposed to, but the deviants got the right to keep on deviating. And how did FReepers respond? By and large, they cheered on the deviants. After all, they were just doing their thing.

22 posted on 07/22/2006 5:55:29 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: Sub-Driver

What part of "perpetuity" does the council not understand?


23 posted on 07/22/2006 6:04:12 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: Sub-Driver

Let's put aside, for a moment, all questions of Christian morality (as Philadelphia has done). Doesn't gay men alone with little boys in the woods strike these people as a recipe for disaster? So not all homosexuals are molesters; the danger is enough. Or would liberals rather protect homosexuals' feelings than children?

On second thought, I'd like to withdraw that question on grounds of stupidity.


24 posted on 07/22/2006 6:29:36 PM PDT by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Of course to liberals, if you're not pro-homosexual, you're in the Dark Ages. I wonder what took the City Of Brotherly Love (pun intended) so long to evict those homophobic Boy Scouts off city property.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em, Down Hezbullies.)

25 posted on 07/22/2006 6:32:55 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: maine-iac7

The Boy Scouts has been a faggot magnet for decades. Similar incident occurred in CA back in the 60s in the Palo Alto area. Now we have NAMBLA to further the cause of molestation of boys by queers. Sickening, but this is an alternative lifestyle supported by the deviant-mongers and deviant judges.


26 posted on 07/22/2006 6:47:31 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: Sub-Driver; Jay777

PA ACLU Swirl Ping


27 posted on 07/22/2006 7:22:05 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is, hitting what you aim at!)
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To: F15Eagle

"Gee, a "Brokeback Council" it appears."

Are you sure you don't mean a "Brokebutt Council"?


28 posted on 07/22/2006 8:23:15 PM PDT by rogator
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To: lilylangtree

The problem is, there's no agreement. The Philadelphia City Council passed a resolution in 1928, but they are apparently free to change that resolution. I don't believe that their original resolution has the force of a binding contract.


29 posted on 07/22/2006 8:35:14 PM PDT by RonF
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To: SandRat
For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

Romans 1: vs 25-27

30 posted on 07/22/2006 9:41:29 PM PDT by Moorings
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I have long thought that there is that certain economic element to this modern depravity. The wealthy liberal supporters of sodomites need fear not, the predators won't bite the hands that feed. That kind of activity goes on on The Other Side Of Town.

I have a cousin who's lover was a particular bigwig MD with a particular international human-rights charitable organization...who took regular trips to Thailand and kept a Thai boy, and I do mean a Thai BOY, in an apartment in SF. Not exactly a peer relationship.

I'm of the opinion that most of this advancement of the cause of sodomy is rather cynically $$ motivated by corporations wanting every last dollar off of every last demographic population available transferred to themselves. Homosexuals are okay, they have money to spend!

31 posted on 07/22/2006 10:04:27 PM PDT by Churchjack
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To: Moorings

Amen. And BTTT!


32 posted on 07/23/2006 3:32:10 AM PDT by freednumb (The promotion of perversion is not a right!)
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch

Exactly.


33 posted on 07/23/2006 3:33:15 AM PDT by freednumb (The promotion of perversion is not a right!)
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To: Sub-Driver
And don't forget, the city of Philadelphia was the one who broke Stephen Girard's will (which stated a free education for poor white fatherless boys) to force them to take blacks.

And, no, I am not weighing in on that decision, but only mentioned it to show how Philadelphia treats contracts when it doesn't fit their agenda.

34 posted on 07/23/2006 3:43:16 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Sub-Driver
Apropos of nothing in partiucular, I've always admired this Boy Scout poster, from a simpler age when values really mattered:


35 posted on 07/23/2006 3:47:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: Bommer

It's a shame for those people who live in Phila., but it's becoming a sewer.


36 posted on 07/23/2006 8:40:50 AM PDT by chiefqc
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To: maine-iac7

The gay rights cabal will assure you: just because a scoutmaster has a sexual preference for young men doesn't mean he's gay.


37 posted on 07/23/2006 8:46:34 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Sub-Driver

That's Philadelphia for you - - trying to force the Boy Scouts to send young boys into the woods with sodomites illustrates the city's mentality perfectly. The battle really isn't worth it - - the Boy Scouts should pack up (no pun) and get out of that sick toilet Philadelphia as fast as they can.


38 posted on 07/23/2006 8:59:06 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: scripter

Bookmarked.


39 posted on 07/23/2006 9:00:55 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: maine-iac7
Is this article just about California? That state has all 7th graders learning about Islam as part of their curriculum..........

My son is a an Eagle Scout. I wear my mom's Eagle Scout pin every day to work. I am so proud of him.
40 posted on 07/23/2006 9:44:57 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Sub-Driver; scripter

Can someone clarify this for me please...

Do the Girl Scouts (or whatever they are called) allow male Leaders?... and if not, what is the reason?

If the answer is that they don't allow male leaders, and for the reasons I am thinking, does Philadelphia have the same attitude towards them?


41 posted on 07/23/2006 1:38:41 PM PDT by mikeyc
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To: mikeyc
Do the Girl Scouts (or whatever they are called) allow male Leaders?... and if not, what is the reason?

We see that question every so often, and it's a good question indeed. I'm not sure the question has ever been answered without imposing a double standard.

42 posted on 07/23/2006 1:44:52 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: wintertime
Is this article just about California?

I live in New England - but was, indeed, in California went the incident took place...in the 70's (The perp was also in LAW ENFORCEMENT! I went to the Sheriff also - got short shrift. I warned him that one day, his dept was going to be very embarrassed - and indeed they were, -

43 posted on 07/23/2006 2:37:24 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7
Sorry maine-iac, I had the wrong cut and paste on that post.
44 posted on 07/23/2006 3:38:57 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: scripter; mikeyc

Yes, the GSUSA does allow male leaders, but I believe they cannot be "principal leader" (i.e., can't be the top unit leader, such as the Cubmaster or Scoutmaster in the BSA).


45 posted on 07/23/2006 6:43:28 PM PDT by RonF
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To: RonF

**Yes, the GSUSA does allow male leaders, but I believe they cannot be "principal leader" (i.e., can't be the top unit leader, such as the Cubmaster or Scoutmaster in the BSA).**

In which case, it seems only logical that the same rule should apply to homosexuals in charge of boys, for the same reason.

I assume that Philadelphia doesn't prejudice against them... but then, it's the homosexuals who require preferential treatment, above the needs of the children... as usual.


46 posted on 07/24/2006 2:00:19 AM PDT by mikeyc
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To: Sub-Driver

I think a whole stream of Christians should apply for leadership positions in gay organizations and we'll see how equally open they are to leadership that is opposed to their organization's core values.


47 posted on 07/24/2006 2:03:33 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: mikeyc

"In which case, it seems only logical that the same rule should apply to homosexuals in charge of boys, for the same reason."

And what reason would that be?


48 posted on 07/24/2006 6:59:06 AM PDT by RonF
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To: Sub-Driver

The REST of the AGENDA:
While most homosexual activist groups publicly denounce NAMBLA and its agenda, the pedophile group is still allowed to march in "gay" pride parades in New York, San Francisco and Boston under its own NAMBLA banner.

Furthermore, some suggest that public disavowal of NAMBLA by homosexual groups is a smokescreen. David Thorstad, a founding member of NAMBLA and former president of New York’s Gay Activists Alliance, says homosexual activists have supressed pedophilia in order "to sanitize the image of homosexuality to facilitate its entrance into the social mainstream."


49 posted on 07/24/2006 11:15:33 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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To: little jeremiah
Philadelphia doesn't like "morally straight".

The corrupt left favors that which favors it. Birds of a feather flock together...

50 posted on 07/24/2006 11:24:51 AM PDT by DBeers ()
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