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Three Men Charged With Possession Of "Cop Killer" Handgun
NY1 News ^ | July 23rd, 2006 | NY1 News

Posted on 07/23/2006 10:21:24 AM PDT by BorisTheBulletDodger

Three men in Queens have been charged with the illegal possession of a so-called "cop killer" handgun.

The weapon is said to be capable of easily penetrating most bulletproof police vests and plates. The three men facing charges are from the Hammel Houses in Far Rockaway.

Senator Chuck Schumer is among those pushing to have the gun, called the Fabrique Nationale 5.7 outlawed.

It’s the first time that this particular gun has been recovered in New York.

Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said the "cop killer" gun has a 20-round magazine, is able to shoot 50 to 100 yards with great accuracy and its bullet can pierce 48 layers of Kevlar.

Brown said that of the 616 police officers killed in the line of duty nationwide between 1994 and 2003, 425 were killed with this handgun.


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I thought the FN Five-seveN was not publicly available until the year 2004... oh wait, they are referring to ANYTHING that kills a cop as a "cop killer"...!
1 posted on 07/23/2006 10:21:25 AM PDT by BorisTheBulletDodger
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To: BorisTheBulletDodger

Total BS. No cop has EVER been killed by this gun.


2 posted on 07/23/2006 10:23:33 AM PDT by MonroeDNA (Look for the Union label--on the tunnel ceiling as it smashes your car!)
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To: BorisTheBulletDodger

BTW, there is a video clip on the story's web page. You have to click on the icon by the image.


3 posted on 07/23/2006 10:23:33 AM PDT by BorisTheBulletDodger (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: BorisTheBulletDodger
Brown said that of the 616 police officers killed in the line of duty nationwide between 1994 and 2003, 425 were killed with this handgun.

Either that gun is able to travel in time or else the D.A. is spreading a flat out lie.

I vote for the latter.

4 posted on 07/23/2006 10:25:24 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: BorisTheBulletDodger
Brown said that of the 616 police officers killed in the line of duty nationwide between 1994 and 2003, 425 were killed with this handgun.

This statement is a total lie. Just more MSM garbage fueld by fear now that we are making inroads on some of the more odious gun laws and showing them up for the useless pos that they really are. Nothing brings out the lies in the libs faster than being afraid they might lose control over the people!

5 posted on 07/23/2006 10:28:35 AM PDT by calex59 (The '86 amnesty put us in the toilet, now the senate wants to flush it!)
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Wonder what the hypocrite Schumer carries with his "ruling class" CCW?
6 posted on 07/23/2006 10:29:10 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: BorisTheBulletDodger

Funny how they provide zero information about any specifications or even brand name of the gun. This story is sprinkled with crap.


7 posted on 07/23/2006 10:30:20 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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That penetration is only with SS190 ammo which is not
available to civilians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.7_x_28_mm_cartridge#Variants


8 posted on 07/23/2006 10:32:19 AM PDT by rahbert
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The weapon is said to be capable of easily penetrating most bulletproof police vests and plates.

Unless you're Superman, there's no such thing as a bullet-proof vest. Bullet resistant, maybe, but not bullet proof.

9 posted on 07/23/2006 10:32:26 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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10 posted on 07/23/2006 10:32:58 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: BorisTheBulletDodger

http://www.auctionarms.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=7518505&aa=%20%20Fabrique%20Nationale%20FN%20Five-Seven%20Pistol%20-%20Factory%20Box%20-%203%20Mags%20Total

Price and good photos at above URL


11 posted on 07/23/2006 10:33:54 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: COEXERJ145

I agree. I haven't heard of a single incident of a LEO being shot by one of these 5.7s.


12 posted on 07/23/2006 10:34:52 AM PDT by Lancer_N3502A
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To: BorisTheBulletDodger

Don't they mean the ammunition does that?


13 posted on 07/23/2006 10:35:03 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: BorisTheBulletDodger

I just Googled this weapon. Looks rather average.

The title and writing style of this story is something to vomit at, though.


14 posted on 07/23/2006 10:37:43 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: calex59

This moron should be sued for reckless incitement. He is spreading fear through the Sheeple with outright lies. It's close to shouting fire in a crowded movie theater. That is not constitutionally protected speech.


15 posted on 07/23/2006 10:38:11 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: BorisTheBulletDodger

http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=172


NRA Fact Sheet

Lautenberg, Schumer Join Brady Campaign In Lying About the FN Five-seveN Pistol


Given the large number of lies that anti-gun groups and politicians have told over the years, we hesitate to say that this is the most dishonest and deceptive thing we have ever heard from them. But what they are saying about Fabrique Nationale`s Five-seveN pistol is among the most dishonest and deceptive to date.

By way of background, the Five-seveN is a conventional semi-automatic pistol designed to fire various types of ammunition in Fabrique Nationale`s (FN) new caliber, 5.7x28mm. As required under federal law,1 only non-armor-penetrating types of 5.7mm ammunition are imported for sale to the public, however. One such type (designated SS196) is loaded with the Hornady V-MAX ("Varmint"-Max) varmint bullet. Some ranchers, who would otherwise carry a rifle for varmint control, have taken to the Five-seveN, which is easier to carry when working in the field. A hollowpoint bullet variety (SS192) was imported initially, but FN has discontinued it in favor of the V-MAX round.

There is nothing special about the Five-seveN. It is a conventional semi-automatic pistol, like millions of other semi-automatic pistols. BATFE has determined that it is "particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes" and approved its importation. There is also nothing special about the 5.7mm ammunition being sold to the public. V-MAX bullets, introduced in 1996, are used in nine other popular calibers. BATFE has examined the V-MAX round and determined that it is "not armor piercing ammunition."2 (Emphasis in the original.)

However, Brady Campaign (formerly Handgun Control) began claiming in February that the Five- seveN should be banned, further claiming that FN`s website says that "Kevlar helmets and vests . . . will be penetrated" with the pistol.3 On March 3, Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) and several others repeated the false claim during a press conference announcing legislation by Lautenberg and Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) to ban the pistol and the SS192 variety of ammunition.

Brady Campaign and their legislative water-carriers are lying. FN`s website makes that statement only with regard to "Five-seveN pistols and SS190 round"4 (Emphases in the original.) In boldface type, FN clearly specifies that its statement applies to only the SS190 variety of 5.7mm ammunition, which under federal law is not legal to manufacture or import for sale to the public.

Brady Campaign also claims to have used the pistol to defeat a police vest thrown over a bale of hay. No conclusions should be drawn from this stunt, of course. It was not conducted according to rigorous test procedures approved by the U.S. Department of Justice, nor supervised or observed by a neutral party. Also, two important factors--the type and condition of the vest Brady Campaign used, and the type of ammunition used--are uncertain.

Notes:

1. "Armor piercing ammunition" is restricted under 18 USC 922(a)(7).

2. www.atf.gov/firearms/firearmstech/fabriquen.htm

3. www.bradycampaign.org/ (Brady website frontpage, Feb. 17, 2005.)

4. www.fnherstal.com/html/Index.htm


Posted: 3/9/2005


16 posted on 07/23/2006 10:40:19 AM PDT by nralife
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To: Dutch Boy

If he lied then make them do a retraction. Newspapers do not have the right to lie and spread misinformation.


17 posted on 07/23/2006 10:41:54 AM PDT by Orange1998
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To: BorisTheBulletDodger

Someone remind me how the dems have abandoned gun control as an issue.
Someone remind me again how the Republican Party is as bad as the dems. [Ok, let's forget about Bloomberg since he's a dem in sheep's clothing.]


18 posted on 07/23/2006 10:42:22 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: BorisTheBulletDodger

I've never heard of a "cop killing gun". I have heard of a "cop killing bullet" though.


19 posted on 07/23/2006 10:42:50 AM PDT by fish hawk
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To: MonroeDNA
The weapon is said to be capable of easily penetrating most bulletproof police vests and plates. In all my years in criminal justice I have NEVER seen a "weapon" penetrate a bullet proof vest.

I have seen weapons capable of deploying "rounds" with enough punch to penetrate a vest, but thats something completely different isn't it?

If they talked about the penetrating power of the round they wouldn't be able to demonize the delivery system now would they?

Oh and the a-holes that actually pull the trigger on these weapons apparently aren't part of the equation at all.

After all “616 police officers killed in the line of duty nationwide between 1994 and 2003, 425 were killed with this handgun”

Not killed by scumbags using this handgun but the by "the handgun" itself apparently.

20 posted on 07/23/2006 10:44:03 AM PDT by The_Pickle ("We have no Permanent Allies, We have no Permanent Enemies, Only Permanent Interests")
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