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John Murtha (just when you think he can't say any more stupid things)
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 7/24/06 | David T. Cook

Posted on 07/23/2006 5:21:51 PM PDT by Coop

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To: Coop

Can I give you another bump, sir?

141 posted on 07/25/2006 5:23:23 AM PDT by StarCMC ("The word of muslims will never, ever override what our U.S. Marines say." - TheCrusader)
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To: phillyfanatic
BUT in the past Murtha kept his mouth shut and sat around counting his kickback coinage.

Now he's out there dissing the troops in harm's way and making their jobs more difficult. It's a whole new ballgame this time around. If he had kept his mouth shut you may be right, but he is pissing off a lot of people. That's why he now has the audacity to throw the "conservative" word around. It's damage control. He knows his home turf is conservative dems, not Philly-style plantation dems..

142 posted on 07/25/2006 7:13:58 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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To: Sisku Hanne; 91B


143 posted on 07/25/2006 12:58:35 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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144 posted on 07/25/2006 4:37:42 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Ouderkirk

I remember the ABSCAM scandal but I don't even remember who all was involved in it. I'm assuming he (Murtha) was a non-indicted co-conspirator; right? If not, why in the heck is he still serving in Congress.

145 posted on 07/25/2006 4:48:19 PM PDT by no dems (
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To: no dems
During his legislative career, Murtha has been a House insider, loyal to the Democratic leadership and a favorite of then-House Speaker Tip O'Neill, D-Mass. In the probe of what became known as the Abscam bribery scandal, Murtha was the only congressman involved in the complex case to emerge without facing criminal charges. He declared he was innocent, saying he had "met with two men who I believed had a substantial line of credit....snip

from USAToady (misspelling intentional)

Murtha was neck deep in it but his buddy Tip O'Neil covered for him.

146 posted on 07/25/2006 5:30:17 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather?)
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To: Lurker
Lord, I hope he keeps rattling his head!! His mouth is the greatest ally Commissioner Irey could ever have!!
147 posted on 07/25/2006 7:23:34 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: Coop

Doesn't matter to me whether you believe or not.


148 posted on 07/26/2006 9:55:41 PM PDT by 1-Eagle (What the Democrats fear worst ----- when all the dust settles, Pres Bush will still be right.)
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To: 1-Eagle

Hey, how's about giving Karen another call and asking her to get Rove, Hastert or some other big shot to campaign for Diana Irey? Thanks!!

149 posted on 07/27/2006 5:08:05 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop
If you want to flame me, go ahead. Everything I said was perfectly true. Theres even a alot more to it.

Making some campaign suggestions is not the same thing as influence. Whoever I was speaking to had the good sense to be a good listener. I told them up front that I was not a big shot, and I wasn't some rich donor either, just a grassroots campaign worker that had some suggestions. Somebody decided to listen.

I'll give you just one more example: I had noticed (then Gov.) Bush had been campaigning in mostly the larger cities (just like Gore.) I told them our votes are not in the major cities, by and large, but out in the country. So I gave them an example of Oklahoma back in the 1970's where the Republicans would have the lead in the Governors race until around midnight, then the farmers votes would start rolling in from the counties. By morning, the Democrat would have the votes to win. The farmers and other rural folk must have gotten a big kick out of that.

In a move that was picked up by the press (small story but its out there if you want to pick it up) he started campaigning mid or late summer in smaller towns. Some counties have a bunch of votes, but its just scattered out, over dozens of towns, like, say, Calhoun county in Alabama, which has a lot of votes, but no single huge city.

What you do, is you go to the county seat and make a speech. You don't have to visit every little town in the county. If you have been to the 'county seat' folks can't say you didn't come and ask for their vote. And thats another thing I told them. Dole never really closed out the deal in his speeches. I told them as example: a good Baptist minister has his three points, and then has his alter call, and overhearing people talking (while supporting Dole campaign '96) "They never came down here and asked for our vote, so why should I bother?" I told them Bush needed to add in an 'altar call' to his speeches where he asked for their vote.

(thats actually more than one thing, like I said before, I could write a book (in a manner of speaking) on that phone call. Theres still more, but even though I enjoy talking about it, theres no use making such a big deal. I know what I did and I saw the results, thats all that matters. I probably shouldn't have brought it up.

150 posted on 07/27/2006 1:09:24 PM PDT by 1-Eagle (And on the 8th day.... John Kerry popped up and said "I'd have done it differently.")
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