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John Murtha (just when you think he can't say any more stupid things)
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 7/24/06 | David T. Cook

Posted on 07/23/2006 5:21:51 PM PDT by Coop

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To: Coop
Hey Coop. Thought you might like to know I was at the 84 flea market (in beautiful 84,PA.) this morning and talked to some old Marines. I asked them straight out what they thought of Murtha and his treasonous comments. They spoke up immediately and said; "they should send Murtha with Jane Fonda to Iraq!" One Old timer said he knows a lot of old Marines in the area that are pissed at Murtha. What I think is great is that they are grouping Murtha in with Hanoi Jane. I also gave the Murtha billboard along Interstate 70 the one finger salute for you this morning...as you requested.
101 posted on 07/24/2006 10:44:54 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (12th district Freeper.)
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To: 4yearlurker
Thanks for the update. Did you give these Marines any info on Diana Irey? If you haven't already, I'd suggest getting some stickers and brochures from campaign HQ and keep 'em handy for just such an occasion.

And thanks for remembering my salute. :-D

102 posted on 07/24/2006 10:52:15 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop
just because I want him held accountable for everything he's said

I hear ya .. it's just that every time he opens his fat mouth, I keep thinking .. no sane person could possible say these things

103 posted on 07/24/2006 10:55:46 AM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: Coop
I did tell the Marines to look for Mrs.Irey's father who sets a table up at the flea mart and hands out literature and shooting targets. I did tell them to vote Irey and get rid of Murtha. One fella told me he thinks Murtha's mind is going.
104 posted on 07/24/2006 10:57:57 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (12th district Freeper.)
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To: 4yearlurker

Good work! That kind of stuff is really going to make the difference.


105 posted on 07/24/2006 10:59:13 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

Good post, Coop. You have Freepmail.


106 posted on 07/24/2006 11:55:42 AM PDT by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Ronald Reagan and Noah Webster.)
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To: writer33

Thanks. I saw it and started reading, but have not yet finished. :-o


107 posted on 07/24/2006 11:58:35 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

O.K. Thank you.


108 posted on 07/24/2006 12:03:05 PM PDT by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Ronald Reagan and Noah Webster.)
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To: writer33

Bump


109 posted on 07/24/2006 1:51:23 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: 4yearlurker; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; acsrp38; agincourt1415; A message; angcat; armydawg1; ...

A Monday, vice a Sunday, ping! In case this got buried in your weekend queues.


110 posted on 07/24/2006 2:42:51 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

Murtha better watch his back. The press doesn't like to be criticized. In any manner.


111 posted on 07/24/2006 2:46:33 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel. We're all Jews now.)
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To: prairiebreeze

Oh, I'm sure they'll shrug it off and take one for the team. Although I'd love to be wrong! :-)


112 posted on 07/24/2006 2:51:51 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

BTTT


113 posted on 07/24/2006 2:57:08 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Coop

Monday bump.


114 posted on 07/24/2006 3:18:27 PM PDT by RedRover (Go Hebrews!)
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To: RedRover

Bump


115 posted on 07/24/2006 3:28:40 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

Looking for a BUMP?? :-D


116 posted on 07/24/2006 4:05:45 PM PDT by StarCMC ("The word of muslims will never, ever override what our U.S. Marines say." - TheCrusader)
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To: 4yearlurker

: )


117 posted on 07/24/2006 4:30:21 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: StarCMC

Absolutely


118 posted on 07/24/2006 4:37:55 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: phillyfanatic

Western PA is not Philly.


119 posted on 07/24/2006 4:52:53 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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To: Sisku Hanne

Does that mean my Philadelphia Steelers jersey isn't legit?!?


120 posted on 07/24/2006 4:55:34 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

Seen any polls on the race yet?


121 posted on 07/24/2006 4:57:59 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: airborne

Yes


122 posted on 07/24/2006 4:58:28 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

And???


123 posted on 07/24/2006 5:00:43 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: Coop
LOL! Dang! How old is that shirt? It's a genuine Steagles jersey!
124 posted on 07/24/2006 5:04:34 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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To: airborne

It's really amazing.


125 posted on 07/24/2006 5:06:11 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

"Who's on first?"

"Exactly!"


126 posted on 07/24/2006 5:10:18 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: airborne

I dunno.


127 posted on 07/24/2006 5:11:00 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

Third base!


128 posted on 07/24/2006 5:13:29 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: airborne

The left fielder's name?


129 posted on 07/24/2006 5:34:25 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

Abbott: Well, Costello, I'm going to New York with you. Bucky Harris the Yankee's manager gave me a job as coach for as long as you're on the team.

Costello: Look Abbott, if you're the coach, you must know all the players.

Abbott: I certainly do.

Costello: Well you know I've never met the guys. So you'll have to tell me their names, and then I'll know who's playing on the team.

Abbott: Oh, I'll tell you their names, but you know it seems to me they give these ball players now-a-days very peculiar names.

Costello: You mean funny names?

Abbott: Strange names, pet names...like Dizzy Dean...

Costello: His brother Daffy

Abbott: Daffy Dean...

Costello: And their French cousin.

Abbott: French?

Costello: Goofe'

Abbott: Goofe' Dean. Well, let's see, we have on the bags, Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know is on third...

Costello: That's what I want to find out.

Abbott: I say Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know's on third.

Costello: Are you the manager?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: You gonna be the coach too?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: And you don't know the fellows' names.

Abbott: Well I should.

Costello: Well then who's on first?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: I mean the fellow's name.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The guy on first.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The first baseman.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The guy playing...

Abbott: Who is on first!

Costello: I'm asking you who's on first.

Abbott: That's the man's name.

Costello: That's who's name?

Abbott: Yes.

Costello: Well go ahead and tell me.

Abbott: That's it.

Costello: That's who?

Abbott: Yes. PAUSE

Costello: Look, you gotta first baseman?

Abbott: Certainly.

Costello: Who's playing first?

Abbott: That's right.

Costello: When you pay off the first baseman every month, who gets the money?

Abbott: Every dollar of it.

Costello: All I'm trying to find out is the fellow's name on first base.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The guy that gets...

Abbott: That's it.

Costello: Who gets the money...

Abbott: He does, every dollar of it. Sometimes his wife comes down and collects it.

Costello: Who's wife?

Abbott: Yes. PAUSE

Abbott: What's wrong with that?

Costello: I wanna know is when you sign up the first baseman, how does he sign his name?

Abbott: Who.

Costello: The guy.

Abbott: Who.

Costello: How does he sign...

Abbott: That's how he signs it.

Costello: Who?

Abbott: Yes. PAUSE

Costello: All I'm trying to find out is what's the guys name on first base.

Abbott: No. What is on second base.

Costello: I'm not asking you who's on second.

Abbott: Who's on first.

Costello: One base at a time!

Abbott: Well, don't change the players around.

Costello: I'm not changing nobody!

Abbott: Take it easy, buddy.

Costello: I'm only asking you, who's the guy on first base?

Abbott: That's right.

Costello: OK.

Abbott: Alright. PAUSE

Costello: What's the guy's name on first base?

Abbott: No. What is on second.

Costello: I'm not asking you who's on second.

Abbott: Who's on first.

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott: He's on third, we're not talking about him.

Costello: Now how did I get on third base?

Abbott: Why you mentioned his name.

Costello: If I mentioned the third baseman's name, who did I say is playing third?

Abbott: No. Who's playing first.

Costello: What's on base?

Abbott: What's on second.

Costello: I don't know.

Abbott: He's on third.

Costello: There I go, back on third again! PAUSE

Costello: Would you just stay on third base and don't go off it.

Abbott: Alright, what do you want to know?

Costello: Now who's playing third base?

Abbott: Why do you insist on putting Who on third base?

Costello: What am I putting on third.

Abbott: No. What is on second.

Costello: You don't want who on second?

Abbott: Who is on first.

Costello: I don't know. Together: Third base! PAUSE

Costello: Look, you gotta outfield?

Abbott: Sure.

Costello: The left fielder's name?

Abbott: Why.

Costello: I just thought I'd ask you.

Abbott: Well, I just thought I'd tell ya.

Costello: Then tell me who's playing left field.

Abbott: Who's playing first.

Costello: I'm not...stay out of the infield!!! I want to know what's the guy's name in left field?

Abbott: No, What is on second.

Costello: I'm not asking you who's on second.

Abbott: Who's on first!

Costello: I don't know. Together: Third base! PAUSE

Costello: The left fielder's name?

Abbott: Why.

Costello: Because!

Abbott: Oh, he's center field. PAUSE

Costello: Look, You gotta pitcher on this team?

Abbott: Sure.

Costello: The pitcher's name?

Abbott: Tomorrow.

Costello: You don't want to tell me today?

Abbott: I'm telling you now.

Costello: Then go ahead.

Abbott: Tomorrow!

Costello: What time?

Abbott: What time what?

Costello: What time tomorrow are you gonna tell me who's pitching?

Abbott: Now listen. Who is not pitching.

Costello: I'll break you're arm if you say who's on first!!! I want to know what's the pitcher's name?

Abbott: What's on second.

Costello: I don't know. Together: Third base! PAUSE

Costello: Gotta a catcher?

Abbott: Certainly.

Costello: The catcher's name?

Abbott: Today.

Costello: Today, and tomorrow's pitching.

Abbott: Now you've got it.

Costello: All we got is a couple of days on the team. PAUSE

Costello: You know I'm a catcher too.

Abbott: So they tell me.

Costello: I get behind the plate to do some fancy catching, Tomorrow's pitching on my team and a heavy hitter gets up. Now the heavy hitter bunts the ball. When he bunts the ball, me, being a good catcher, I'm gonna throw the guy out at first. So I pick up the ball and throw it to who?

Abbott: Now that's the first thing you've said right.

Costello: I don't even know what I'm talking about! PAUSE

Abbott: That's all you have to do.

Costello: Is to throw the ball to first base.

Abbott: Yes!

Costello: Now who's got it?

Abbott: Naturally. PAUSE

Costello: Look, if I throw the ball to first base, somebody's gotta get it. Now who has it?

Abbott: Naturally.

Costello: Who?

Abbott: Naturally.

Costello: Naturally?

Abbott: Naturally.

Costello: So I pick up the ball and I throw it to Naturally.

Abbott: No you don't you throw the ball to Who.

Costello: Naturally.

Abbott: That's different.

Costello: That's what I said.

Abbott: you're not saying it...

Costello: I throw the ball to Naturally.

Abbott: You throw it to Who.

Costello: Naturally.

Abbott: That's it.

Costello: That's what I said!

Abbott: You ask me.

Costello: I throw the ball to who?

Abbott: Naturally.

Costello: Now you ask me.

Abbott: You throw the ball to Who?

Costello: Naturally.

Abbott: That's it.

Costello: Same as you! Same as YOU!!! I throw the ball to who. Whoever it is drops the ball and the guy runs to second. Who picks up the ball and throws it to What. What throws it to I Don't Know. I Don't Know throws it back to Tomorrow, Triple play. Another guy gets up and hits a long fly ball to Because. Why? I don't know! He's on third and I don't give a darn!

Abbott: What?

Costello: I said I don't give a darn!

Abbott: Oh, that's our shortstop.


130 posted on 07/24/2006 5:39:51 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: Coop
The left fielder's name?

WHY

131 posted on 07/24/2006 5:40:54 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: airborne

Because!


132 posted on 07/24/2006 5:43:06 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

I'd love to play this a while longer, but I'm suffering from an accuite case of jet lag.

Got in from Fresno at 4 AM.

My eyes don't want to focus right.


133 posted on 07/24/2006 5:46:04 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: airborne

That's okay. It was more fun that posting "bump" a dozen times. Have a good sleep!


134 posted on 07/24/2006 5:48:35 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop
Well then here ya go!


135 posted on 07/24/2006 5:55:56 PM PDT by StarCMC ("The word of muslims will never, ever override what our U.S. Marines say." - TheCrusader)
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To: Coop

That is a Prez condition. I will bet Murtha has beaten opposition by more that 10% or more each time he has won his House seat. That is what I mean , non-competitive. I hope you are correct and she actually has a chance. After all, perhaps some Dems are not insane as Kos or Moore!


136 posted on 07/24/2006 6:27:06 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: Sisku Hanne

True but unfortunately, Murtha has won many House races there with more than 10% between himself and his competition. If Irey wins praise the Lord. I'll send her some dough but unless Dem voters finally agree that Jack is senile and a Quisling, don't look for another incumbant to go down ,unless it is a Pub who the MSM is rooting against!


137 posted on 07/24/2006 6:31:43 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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To: Coop
Do you honestly believe that your phone calls led to the RNC's successful strategies?

I didn't call RNC, I called the Bush campaign.

It was obvious somewhere in mid-summer that they weren't gaining much ground. Also, I had found an electoral college webpage where you could play around with various scenarios and where I hadn't been very worried before, I was then terrified because I saw how close it was going to be, or how Gore could win with just a few big states.

Now, I could write couple of chapters about that phone call but what follows is just one more detail and the thoughts behind it.

They weren't campaigning much or at all in Tennessee, Gores homestate, or Arkansas. I could see we had to have those states or would have to pick up, say, Pennsylvania, which was not looking at all likely.

So, after still being all heartbroke after Dole/Kemp losing, and seeing all this, I felt compelled to call up the Bush campaign. I was speaking to a lady who I believe might have been Karen Hughes. In a fairly long phone conversation to offer 'suggestions' I told her this story about my now ex-wife and I up in Chattanooga where the T-Shirt shop outside the Aquarium was selling "Just Say No in '96" T-Shirts in previous campaign (had Clintons picture with red line through it). I bought one, and much to my ex-wifes dismay, put it on right away, just to see what kind of reaction there would be. The only vocal reaction was positive and boy were people venting! Tennesseans are disgusted with Gore (and Clinton.)

It was one of those "emperor has no clothes" situations. People just assumed that Gore being the 'native son of Tennessee' he would have to win. He was the parties nominee and all. I told them that holding rallies would start something up. People would start getting excited.

I told her the loudest cheers (then Gov.) Bush would hear on the campaign trail would be if he would stand anywhere in Tennessee and make the following statement "Ladies and Gentlemen, I have great news. We are going to carry the Great State of Tennessee" They modified that as "with your help." but he actually spoke those words, and got the response I promised (not sure about the loudest, but they went crazy.) I told them it would be a 'self fulfilling prophecy' because if he campaigned and got folks rallied, they'd turn out the vote.

I told them every dollar Gore had to spend defending Tennessee, was a gain for us. I said: "Just let him try to campaign in Texas. (heh!) We have the advantage of strongest base." And Gore did have to start making stops in Tennessee, spending money and time he needed in Florida!!

So, yes, I do think my suggestions helped. But, this is not rocket science, its just grassroots politics. You just have to pay attention to the details.

Hope that answered your question.

138 posted on 07/24/2006 7:13:01 PM PDT by 1-Eagle (What the Democrats fear worst ----- when all the dust settles, Pres Bush will still be right.)
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To: phillyfanatic
I'll send her some dough

Please do. And it would also be helpful to stop saying she can't win. With Kerry only pulling in 51%, this is by no means a shoo-in for Jackie M.

139 posted on 07/24/2006 8:54:41 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: 1-Eagle
I was speaking to a lady who I believe might have been Karen Hughes.

:-D

Cool! You were directing Karen, while I was providing critical direction to Karl Rove!!

140 posted on 07/24/2006 8:56:06 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop

Can I give you another bump, sir?


141 posted on 07/25/2006 5:23:23 AM PDT by StarCMC ("The word of muslims will never, ever override what our U.S. Marines say." - TheCrusader)
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To: phillyfanatic
BUT in the past Murtha kept his mouth shut and sat around counting his kickback coinage.

Now he's out there dissing the troops in harm's way and making their jobs more difficult. It's a whole new ballgame this time around. If he had kept his mouth shut you may be right, but he is pissing off a lot of people. That's why he now has the audacity to throw the "conservative" word around. It's damage control. He knows his home turf is conservative dems, not Philly-style plantation dems..

142 posted on 07/25/2006 7:13:58 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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To: Sisku Hanne; 91B

Bump


143 posted on 07/25/2006 12:58:35 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

BTTT


144 posted on 07/25/2006 4:37:42 PM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Ouderkirk

I remember the ABSCAM scandal but I don't even remember who all was involved in it. I'm assuming he (Murtha) was a non-indicted co-conspirator; right? If not, why in the heck is he still serving in Congress.


145 posted on 07/25/2006 4:48:19 PM PDT by no dems (www.4condi.com)
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To: no dems
During his legislative career, Murtha has been a House insider, loyal to the Democratic leadership and a favorite of then-House Speaker Tip O'Neill, D-Mass. In the probe of what became known as the Abscam bribery scandal, Murtha was the only congressman involved in the complex case to emerge without facing criminal charges. He declared he was innocent, saying he had "met with two men who I believed had a substantial line of credit....snip

from USAToady (misspelling intentional)

Murtha was neck deep in it but his buddy Tip O'Neil covered for him.

146 posted on 07/25/2006 5:30:17 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather?)
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To: Lurker
Lord, I hope he keeps rattling his head!! His mouth is the greatest ally Commissioner Irey could ever have!!
147 posted on 07/25/2006 7:23:34 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: Coop

Doesn't matter to me whether you believe or not.

1-Eagle


148 posted on 07/26/2006 9:55:41 PM PDT by 1-Eagle (What the Democrats fear worst ----- when all the dust settles, Pres Bush will still be right.)
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To: 1-Eagle

Hey, how's about giving Karen another call and asking her to get Rove, Hastert or some other big shot to campaign for Diana Irey? Thanks!!


149 posted on 07/27/2006 5:08:05 AM PDT by Coop (No, there are no @!%$&#*! polls on Irey vs. Murtha!)
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To: Coop
If you want to flame me, go ahead. Everything I said was perfectly true. Theres even a alot more to it.

Making some campaign suggestions is not the same thing as influence. Whoever I was speaking to had the good sense to be a good listener. I told them up front that I was not a big shot, and I wasn't some rich donor either, just a grassroots campaign worker that had some suggestions. Somebody decided to listen.

I'll give you just one more example: I had noticed (then Gov.) Bush had been campaigning in mostly the larger cities (just like Gore.) I told them our votes are not in the major cities, by and large, but out in the country. So I gave them an example of Oklahoma back in the 1970's where the Republicans would have the lead in the Governors race until around midnight, then the farmers votes would start rolling in from the counties. By morning, the Democrat would have the votes to win. The farmers and other rural folk must have gotten a big kick out of that.

In a move that was picked up by the press (small story but its out there if you want to pick it up) he started campaigning mid or late summer in smaller towns. Some counties have a bunch of votes, but its just scattered out, over dozens of towns, like, say, Calhoun county in Alabama, which has a lot of votes, but no single huge city.

What you do, is you go to the county seat and make a speech. You don't have to visit every little town in the county. If you have been to the 'county seat' folks can't say you didn't come and ask for their vote. And thats another thing I told them. Dole never really closed out the deal in his speeches. I told them as example: a good Baptist minister has his three points, and then has his alter call, and overhearing people talking (while supporting Dole campaign '96) "They never came down here and asked for our vote, so why should I bother?" I told them Bush needed to add in an 'altar call' to his speeches where he asked for their vote.

(thats actually more than one thing, like I said before, I could write a book (in a manner of speaking) on that phone call. Theres still more, but even though I enjoy talking about it, theres no use making such a big deal. I know what I did and I saw the results, thats all that matters. I probably shouldn't have brought it up.

150 posted on 07/27/2006 1:09:24 PM PDT by 1-Eagle (And on the 8th day.... John Kerry popped up and said "I'd have done it differently.")
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