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Nixon aide: Kerry not too swift (John Dean: '23% of America is Protofascist')
The Boston Herald ^ | July 23, 2006 | Dave Wedge

Posted on 07/23/2006 6:50:04 PM PDT by new yorker 77

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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
I thought he should have brought a defamation action against them and he would have succeeded.”

ROFLOL! The reason he didn't is because it was TRUE!

Maybe Dean should try NOT THINKING, it shouldn't be too hard for him. Or maybe just keep it to himself where he doesn't look so stupid because he doesn't know what he is talking about.

51 posted on 07/23/2006 7:13:05 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: new yorker 77

John Dean is still stinging from the revelation that his wife is a whore.

Thank YOU G. Gordon Liddy, for pointing that out! :)


52 posted on 07/23/2006 7:13:44 PM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: the_daug
Is protofascist the same as protoplasm from the movie Ghostbusters?


53 posted on 07/23/2006 7:14:11 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: new yorker 77

John Dean is a either a sad pathetic loser still struggling to be relevant, or a cynical jerk making good cash of the Bush-haters.


54 posted on 07/23/2006 7:14:18 PM PDT by Homer1
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To: new yorker 77
Goldwater won a lawsuit against a magazine that published a poll of psychiatrists who said he was “crazy.”

...

Dean said: “He doesn’t read books. He has trouble reading his one-sheet summary papers.”

Maybe Bush should take Dean's advice and sue Dean for libel.

55 posted on 07/23/2006 7:14:41 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: new yorker 77

what an A$$hole


56 posted on 07/23/2006 7:15:29 PM PDT by woofie
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To: martin_fierro

He is a serial liar and media whore. He didn't stand up too well to Liddy when confronted with the truth.


57 posted on 07/23/2006 7:15:40 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: Just A Nobody; new yorker 77
Kerry slipped up during the 2004 campaign against President Bush by not suing the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

If I'm not mistaken he did threaten a lawsuit and nothing ever came of it, his attorney's must have advised him he couldn't sue someone for telling the truth.

John Dean should go into retirement and shut up so he stops embarrassing himself.

58 posted on 07/23/2006 7:16:06 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: new yorker 77

What the hey would John Dean know about Conservatism anyway? He never was one. In fact, he worked for an administration that froze wages for Pete's sake! That was never done before or since. He's a proven coward like Kerry is.


59 posted on 07/23/2006 7:16:55 PM PDT by moonman (`)
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To: kcvl
Just what I just said. A lawsuit goes both ways. The Swifties as part of their defense, would have the right to see John Kerry's service records. And whatever is in them must be damaging or else Kerry would have felt confident about filing a lawsuit. If his reputation WAS really damaged by lies, surely he would want to restore it. We all know the truth - he never had one to begin with, even if he did spend Christmas in Cambodia and it turned out even that memorable incident was all made up!

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em, Down Hezbullies.)

60 posted on 07/23/2006 7:18:40 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: new yorker 77
"He waited so long, it was shocking. I thought he should have brought a defamation action against them and he would have succeeded."

These are the words of a stupid, stupid man.

61 posted on 07/23/2006 7:18:56 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Muslims - The "flesh eating bacteria" version of humans.)
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To: mkjessup
I can't blame Dean for falling for Mo. She is (or was) a knockout. She sat behind him every day he gave testimony in front of the Ervin committee, even though everyone in the room knew what she used to do for a living.

I can't hold that against him. It's the only thing, though.

62 posted on 07/23/2006 7:19:10 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: new yorker 77
Dean is a very important asset to the Republican Party and the dunbass demos are too stupid to realize it. I love it.
63 posted on 07/23/2006 7:22:14 PM PDT by kempo
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To: Just A Nobody; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; All

Another one of Kerry's slip ups.

64 posted on 07/23/2006 7:22:21 PM PDT by Gucho
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To: BluH2o
John Dean is a disloyal, disingenuous, self aggrandizing, lying piece of crap.

Thank you for this very apt description of John Dean. Knew it in '74 and it still applies.

65 posted on 07/23/2006 7:24:30 PM PDT by jtill (You can lead a man to Congress, but you can't make him think!)
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To: new yorker 77

Wouldn't a defamation lawsuit force skerry to produce his official military records? I doubt he can do that and win the law suit.


66 posted on 07/23/2006 7:24:49 PM PDT by tioga
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To: new yorker 77
I thought he should have brought a defamation action against them and he would have succeeded.”

Seems I read that most of the people who sued over the anti-Kerry movie backed out when it got to the disposition phase.

67 posted on 07/23/2006 7:26:09 PM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: new yorker 77
John Dean, a Republican who served as Nixon’s top counsel, said Kerry slipped up during the 2004 campaign against President Bush by not suing the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth when they published a book calling into question the Bay State senator’s Vietnam service.

The truth is absolute defense against libel. (Is it libel or slander that is printed? I forget!)

68 posted on 07/23/2006 7:26:39 PM PDT by MortMan (There are 10 kinds of people in the world... Those that understand binary and those that don't!)
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To: jtill
John Dean is a disloyal, disingenuous, self aggrandizing, lying piece of crap.

Thank you for this very apt description of John Dean. Knew it in '74 and it still applies ...

Did I mention he was a lawyer too?

69 posted on 07/23/2006 7:29:12 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: new yorker 77
booo...



Yooo Hooo... I'm over HERE!!!
70 posted on 07/23/2006 7:31:36 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: new yorker 77
John Dean is a determined, consistent liar. He will be spending eternity regretting it, if he doesn't change his stripes soon.
71 posted on 07/23/2006 7:37:00 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Jesus always reads His knee-mail. (Hall of Fame Hit-N-Run poster))
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To: new yorker 77
"..... hellbent on smearing his military record"

Someone should to explain to this Massoftwoshits "journalist" the difference beteen smearing and REVEALING THE TRUTH...

Semper Fi

72 posted on 07/23/2006 7:37:08 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: new yorker 77

How ironic...

"protofascist." Or "protocommunist" anti-democratic tendencies



1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism

2. Disdain for the importance of human rights

3. Identification of enemies / scapegoats as a unifying cause

4. The supremacy of the military / avid militarism

5. Rampant sexism

6. A controlled mass media

7. Obsession with national security

8. Religion and ruling élite tied together

9. Power of corporations protected

10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated

11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts

12. Obsession with crime and punishment

13. Rampant cronyism and corruption

14. Fraudulent elections


Huey Long: “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the American flag."


Long was shot at the Louisiana State Capitol in Baton Rouge; he died two days later. His last words were reportedly, "God, don't let me die. I have so much to do."


A Democrat, he was noted for his radical populist policies. He served as governor of Louisiana from 1928 to 1932 and as a U.S. senator from 1932 to 1935.


Long created the Share Our Wealth program in 1934, with the motto "Every Man a King," proposing new income redistribution measures action to curb the poverty and crime that came as a result of the Great Depression.


Long was accused of dictatorial tendencies for his near-total control of the state government and media and was noted for his colorful, flamboyant, and bombastic character.



In 1910 he was expelled from school for forming a secret society against adding a 12th year of school as a graduation requirement. He spent the next four years as a successful traveling salesman, selling books, canned goods, and patent medicines as well as working as an auctioneer.


Long as governor, 1928-32

Once in office, Long moved quickly to consolidate his power, firing hundreds of opponents in the state bureaucracy from cabinet-level heads of departments and board members to rank-and-file civil servants and state road workers. He replaced these vacancies with patronage appointments from his own network of political supporters. Every state employee who depended on Long for their job was expected to pay a portion of his salary directly to Long’s political war-chest; these funds were kept in a famous locked “deduct box” and used at his discretion.


In 1929, Long called a special session of the legislature in order to enact a new five-cent per barrel ‘occupational license tax’ on production of refined oil in order to fund his social programs.


Long arrived in Washington, D.C. to take his seat in the U.S. Senate in January 1932. Initially, his participation in the Senate was half-hearted; he was absent for over half the days in the 1932 session. When he did appear, he made characteristically fiery speeches denouncing the concentration of wealth and criticizing the leaders of the Democratic Party, most notably attacking Senate Democratic leader Joseph Robinson of Arkansas for his apparent closeness with President Herbert Hoover.

In the presidential election of 1932, Long became a vocal supporter of the candidacy of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, believing him to be the only candidate willing and able to carry out the drastic redistribution of wealth that Long believed was necessary to end the Great Depression.

Long’s radical rhetoric and his bullying and use of smear tactics did little to endear him to his fellow senators. Not one of his proposed bills, resolutions, or motions was passed during his three years in the Senate. During one debate, another senator told him that “I do not believe you could get the Lord’s Prayer endorsed in this body.”

In terms of foreign policy, Long was a firm isolationist, arguing that America’s involvement in the Spanish-American War and the First World War had been deadly mistakes conducted on behalf of Wall Street.


Huey Long and several fellow state officials, including James A. Noe and Oscar K. Allen established the controversial Win or Lose Oil Company. The firm was established to obtain leases on state-owned lands so that the directors might collect bonuses and sublease the mineral rights of those lands to the major oil companies. These activities were done in secret, and the stockholders were unknown to the public. Long made a profit on the bonuses and the resale of those state leases, using the funds primarily for political purposes.


73 posted on 07/23/2006 7:37:51 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Spanaway Lori
PROTOfascist?

That must be Americans who are really and truly concerned for the future of this country.

74 posted on 07/23/2006 7:38:13 PM PDT by oyez (The way to punish a providence is to allow it to be governed by philosophers. --Frederick the Great)
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

(Boston Herald)“What most surprised me is that Kerry never did anything with the Swift boat attacks,” Dean said. “He waited so long, it was shocking. I thought he should have brought a defamation action against them and he would have succeeded.”

STFU Dean, Kerry STILL hasn't turned in that "signed" 180 form.

75 posted on 07/23/2006 7:38:28 PM PDT by weegee (Call Ted Kennedy's office and tell them you would've called 10 hours ago but couldn't get to a phone)
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To: BluH2o

No, you didn't mention that he was a lawyer, but I kinda guessed it from the description. Sounds like most of the lawyers I have ever known.


76 posted on 07/23/2006 7:41:04 PM PDT by jtill (You can lead a man to Congress, but you can't make him think!)
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To: new yorker 77

JOHN Dean is NOT a Republican, no matter what he says. He has spent the last 30-40 years urinating on Republican values, ideas, strengths, and anything else Repub.

He is a mangy wuss who, if a pin could deflate his ego, would skitter around and around making an embarrassing flatulent noise, then settle to the dirt from whence he came, to be trod upon. Serving as road surface would be the most useful functioin of his miserable career.

If I only had time, I would let you know what I really think!

vaudine


77 posted on 07/23/2006 7:42:53 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: snowman1
All the A-hole had to do was sign a 180 and be done with it...

For all the grief that Kerry endured for not releasing his DOD-180, and if you believe Dean that the Swift Boat Campaign was largely responsible for his 2004 defeat (as I do), one can only assume that releasing the information contained in his military records was potentially more damaging than refusing to do so. One can only imagine how damaging, but I believe Kerry would have been revealed as the TOTAL FRAUD that he is.

78 posted on 07/23/2006 7:48:00 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Islamofascism = Evil + Insanity)
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To: listenhillary
“What most surprised me is that Kerry never did anything with the Swift boat attacks,” Dean said. “He waited so long, it was shocking. I thought he should have brought a defamation action against them and he would have succeeded.”

The details of his 180 would be revealed during discovery. That is why he did not sue.

PS John Dean is not an idiot and knows this too. He is just carrying water for Kerry.

79 posted on 07/23/2006 7:48:47 PM PDT by cpdiii (Socialism is popular with the ruling class. It gives legitimacy to tyranny and despotism.)
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To: listenhillary
Can Dean say 'Discovery'? Sure he can.

Another former Republican gone stark, raving mad.

80 posted on 07/23/2006 7:50:11 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: new yorker 77
John Dean and Keith Olbermann are two trees falling in the forest with no one else around.

More like two Moose farts.

81 posted on 07/23/2006 7:52:01 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Islamofascism = Evil + Insanity)
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To: BluH2o

"...disloyal, disingenuous, self aggrandizing, lying piece of crap."

You left out CYA. Other than that spot-on.

Also, somebody beat me to "Your 15 minutes are over so STFU and go home whiner."


82 posted on 07/23/2006 7:52:44 PM PDT by Felis_irritable
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To: new yorker 77

Liberal M.O.: If your existing dogma doesn't justify your partisan stance on any issue, modify it as needed. And don't forget to throw in some statistics and scholarly-sounding rhetoric that you pulled out of your posterior.


83 posted on 07/23/2006 7:53:02 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: stevem
Something tells me this book hasn't and won't sell like an Ann Coulter book.

Roger that. Gotta drive them nuts, huh? LOL!

84 posted on 07/23/2006 7:58:00 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Islamofascism = Evil + Insanity)
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To: Felis_irritable
Also, somebody beat me to "Your 15 minutes are over so STFU and go home whiner."

If John Dean can still get publicity over 30 years after he was hot news, does that mean we have decades of Cindy Sheehan to look forward to? Good grief.

85 posted on 07/23/2006 7:59:04 PM PDT by Rocko (This just in: Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is still dead.)
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To: Homer1
making good cash of the Bush-haters

Lets face it. It's a cottage industry now. As long as these people are selling hate, the left is buying.

86 posted on 07/23/2006 8:04:19 PM PDT by bad company (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks his closet for FReeper kanawa)
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To: new yorker 77
"“What most surprised me is that Kerry never did anything with the Swift boat attacks,” Dean said. "

The TRUTH is very powerful..
The ONLY thing Kerry could do to prove the Swift Boat Veterans were wrong -- would have been to SIGN his SF180 and to PUBLICLY release ALL his military, medical and DISCHARGE records....

He DIDN't do that - because he was lying...
It's as simple as that.

Semper Fi

87 posted on 07/23/2006 8:04:43 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: new yorker 77
Dean was in Boston this week promoting his new book, “Conservatives Without Conscience,”

Dean's book should sell well up here in ThumbSuckingLiberalLand. I'll have to run right out and buy one....NOT !!!

Myself, I'm reading "The Brothers Bulger: How They Terrorized and Corrupted Boston for a Quarter Century", the story of how two sibling products of the early Boston housing projects became a powerful, corrupt (midget), Democrat politician, and the other, one of America's most prolific mass murderers (both are still at large).

Reading that kind of book helps me keep things in perspective here in BeanBrainedTown.

Nixon couldn't hold a candle to either of the Bulger brothers.

Dean should write a book entitled "Liberals Without Souls, Morals, Ethics, Bravery, or Honor".

Humm, that title is vaguely reminiscent of a few other books I have by a certain skinny almost blond (Mit den schönen Brüsten), whose name I won't mention, to avoid certain posting rules.

Aw shucks, I can't help myself. Here's on from her meatier days...

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88 posted on 07/23/2006 8:07:42 PM PDT by benjaminjjones (yeah, what he said)
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To: nuke rocketeer
Absolutely right! He did not sue them because he knew that they were telling the truth. Actually, I have a lot to thank the SBVFTs for, besides helping to defeat John Kerry and "the Breck Girl" (who I am ashamed to say is from my state). It was through the Swifties that I discovered what is now my favorite pastime - internet blogging. I still have their forum on my "Favorites" tab and check in with them from time to time.

BTW, John Dean lost all credibility a long time ago.

89 posted on 07/23/2006 8:09:46 PM PDT by srmorton (Choose Life!)
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To: new yorker 77

Another smear-job from the bowels of this hack MSM-loving opportunist. John Dean and Joe Wilson have an enormous amount in common: both hateful, deranged psycho-leftists who have pretended to be bi-partisan and reasonable in order to smear all conservatives. Both married to leftist whores. Both mentally unbalanced and unreliable, the last people on earth to be trusted for any judgments about US national security, world events, etc. Both beloved by the MSM for bashing conservatives, but would be dropped like the proverbial hot potato if they weren't serving leftist purposes so well. Both shameless opportunists devoid of sound sense and judgment...... I could go on!!


90 posted on 07/23/2006 8:11:10 PM PDT by Enchante (Democrats: Trust Nancy Pelosi to Win the War on Terror!! (gag))
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To: Just A Nobody

Kerry didn't sue, because he knew the Swifties were telling the truth.


91 posted on 07/23/2006 8:11:41 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((((( ISRAEL)))))))))))))
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To: Spanaway Lori

See "bourgeois"; "neo-con"; "counter-revolutionary"; "imperialist"; "chauvinist"; "Uncle Tom"; "yuppie"; "white-bread"; "ultra-conservative"; "fat-cat"; "constipated"; "capitalist"; "pig", blah blah blah...


92 posted on 07/23/2006 8:13:14 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: jazusamo

This episode is yet another reason not to vote for John McCain, also.

HE came out smearing the Swifties the FIRST day..and I bet he hadn't read it.


93 posted on 07/23/2006 8:14:39 PM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((((( ISRAEL)))))))))))))
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To: Amos the Prophet

Yes, you nailed it. I attended a talk he gave back in 1977 at a local college and that was my gut response at the time.


94 posted on 07/23/2006 8:15:52 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: new yorker 77

If I recall correctly, the Swift Boat Veterans invited Kerry to sue them for defamation. But he didn't. Does John Dean really think this was because of poor campaign logistics?


95 posted on 07/23/2006 8:17:06 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Inyo-Mono

I thought he was dead, maybe he should send out postcards stating he is still alive, then maybe we will worry about his babblings


96 posted on 07/23/2006 8:17:44 PM PDT by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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To: new yorker 77
"Authoritarian Conservatives?" "Proto-facists?"

If I didn't know better, I'd think Dean was your typical misguided, misinformed, mentally disordered, lawyer.

Oh, wait.....

I love the 23%.

Isn't amazing how libs are so exact and precise know just about everything about everything?

97 posted on 07/23/2006 8:17:58 PM PDT by seasoned traditionalist (ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS, BUT ALL TERRORISTS WHO WANT TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY, ARE MUSLIMS)
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To: new yorker 77
John Dean, a Republican who served as Nixon’s top counsel, said Kerry slipped up during the 2004 campaign against President Bush by not suing the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth when they published a book calling into question the Bay State senator’s Vietnam service.

Dean's an idiot. Pretrial discovery would have been wonderful. And oh, I would have loved to see those 100 pages of Kerry's military record that he refuses to release to the public.

98 posted on 07/23/2006 8:18:27 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: jazusamo

"If I'm not mistaken he did threaten a lawsuit and nothing ever came of it"
______________________________________________________________________________

A controversial documentary titled Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal,...sparked at least five politically charged lawsuits.

Now there’s only one.

In recent weeks, lawyers for the plaintiffs have dropped three libel suits brought by anti-war veterans.....

“The last-minute withdrawal of the lawsuits on the eve of these depositions suggests a great trepidation about what would come out at the depositions,” Clothier said.

Sherwood was also hit with a copyright infringement suit...
But that case was dismissed last year.



*** Now the only remaining suit is a defamation and civil rights suit brought by Sherwood himself against Kerry and his Pennsylvania campaign manager, John Podesta, that accuses them of conspiring to stop the film from being shown. ***

http://www.vvlf.org/default.php?page_id=52


99 posted on 07/23/2006 8:19:01 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: listenhillary

I guess John Dean never considered the idea that the Swift Boat Vets were correct in their assertions


100 posted on 07/23/2006 8:20:26 PM PDT by kalee
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