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Harris Says Views Grounded In Faith
Palm Beach Post ^ | 24 July 2006 | Sandra Hong

Posted on 07/24/2006 7:13:33 AM PDT by NautiNurse

STUART — Before the Sunday service at a church near downtown, U.S. Senate hopeful and Republican U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris gave brief but pointed comments on issues including immigration, abortion and gay marriage.

Appealing to about 200 at First Baptist Church, Harris said her views were rooted in what she described as the country's Christian origins and principles.

Harris, flanked by two large American flags, spoke mostly about immigration, from which she drew parallels to the current fighting between Israeli troops and the Hezbollah militia.

"Israel is fighting a global war, a global enemy, its terrorists, on all of our behalf," Harris said, adding that the United States must take aggressive steps to tighten its own borders to block terrorists.

"We hear of Middle Easterners — they could be fundamental extremists — taking Hispanic names and coming into our country. We do not know where they are. This is a matter of great national security," she said.

Harris acknowledged that recent immigrants were a vital engine of Florida's economy, but said that workers "must be legal, temporary and have an identification that is secure and cannot be replicated."

Harris, of Longboat Key, near Sarasota, also made appearances Saturday in Stuart and Port St. Lucie, seeking support for her Senate bid. Polls show her trailing Democratic incumbent Bill Nelson by more than 30 points.

Three other Republican candidates will be on the Sept. 5 primary ballot: Will McBride, a lawyer from Orange County, Peter Monroe, a Pinellas County developer, and Adm. LeRoy Collins Jr., a retired naval officer.

Harris' church visit Sunday was at the invitation of First Baptist's pastor, Darrell Orman, who described it as a chance for Harris to "share her testimony" with the church.

Harris assured the audience that "there are many people who care deeply about the Lord that are your elected officials."

Just as the authors of the Constitution looked to the Bible for guidance, so should government today, she said.

"They believed if they had a government according to the Bible, that we would be a nation blessed," she said. "But there has been so much confusion on this church vs. state — it was never intended as it has become, as it has been allowed by politically correct people who want to change the course of western civilization."

Harris said her firm opposition to gay marriage was affirmation of her Christian faith and one that "very much distinguishes me" from incumbent Nelson.

She also pointed to her "100 percent voting record" against abortion, including support for the parental-consent law and the ban against the "heinous" procedure of "partial-birth" abortion.


TOPICS: US: Florida
KEYWORDS: faith; florida; harris
Harris describes her conservative ideology to a group of 200 church members.
1 posted on 07/24/2006 7:13:35 AM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: JulieRNR21; Joe Brower

Katherine Harris ping!


2 posted on 07/24/2006 7:14:22 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Hurricane season 2006 - Be prepared and have a plan)
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To: NautiNurse

Wait a minute. I thought conservatives weren't allowed to speak to conservative church attenders. From what I've always read, it only happens with liberal candidates in liberal constituency churches.


3 posted on 07/24/2006 7:20:13 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks

Glad her views are grounded in faith because her campaign is going to Hell.


4 posted on 07/24/2006 7:26:52 AM PDT by Patrick1
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To: NautiNurse

Who does she think she is? Jesse Jackson?


5 posted on 07/24/2006 7:34:10 AM PDT by AdvisorB (For a terrorist bodycount in hamistan, let the smoke clear then count the ears and divide by 2.)
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To: NautiNurse
One of the rules of faith is to avoid prideful behavior. Harris should swallow her pride and DROP OUT. Everyone appreciates her conservative views, but she is a massive liability for these elections, and should continue her party loyalty by getting out of this race.
6 posted on 07/24/2006 8:05:08 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Hannity interviewing John Mc Cain was my first experience with Gay pornography.)
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To: Pukin Dog
One of the rules of faith is to avoid prideful behavior.

Using your argument, nobody of faith should ever run for any political office.

7 posted on 07/24/2006 8:10:44 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Hurricane season 2006 - Be prepared and have a plan)
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To: NautiNurse
That is quite a stupid take on what I wrote.

My argument is that nobody whose campaign does more harm to their original goals, by becoming a laughing stock, lightning rod, joke of a candidate, who can be used by the opposition as an example of what Conservatism stands for: SHOULD NOT RUN FOR OFFICE.

Got that?
8 posted on 07/24/2006 8:17:07 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Hannity interviewing John Mc Cain was my first experience with Gay pornography.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Harris' conservative campaign platform is addressed in this thread. If you want to bash Harris with name calling and generic smears, start your own thread.

Got that?

9 posted on 07/24/2006 8:25:08 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Hurricane season 2006 - Be prepared and have a plan)
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To: NautiNurse
I bashed no one. I accurately assessed Harris' campaign. That you dont LIKE it, does not make it bashing.

It is NOT conservative to hurt Conservatism itself every time you issue a press release. Harris should go.

Generic smears, my ass.
10 posted on 07/24/2006 8:29:01 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Hannity interviewing John Mc Cain was my first experience with Gay pornography.)
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To: Pukin Dog
If you want to address comments regarding the Palm Beach Post article posted at the beginning of this thread, go for it. If you take issue with the campaign platform described in the article above, knock yourself out item by item.

Otherwise, you are off-topic.

11 posted on 07/24/2006 8:36:38 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Hurricane season 2006 - Be prepared and have a plan)
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To: NautiNurse
That is YOUR opinion. I dont agree.
12 posted on 07/24/2006 8:38:17 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Hannity interviewing John Mc Cain was my first experience with Gay pornography.)
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To: NautiNurse
Finally, she is getting some real coverage and is expressing her own views. She's been through a bunch of handlers who insisted she run as a Rino. I have just believed Julie, because her campaign didn't appeal to me much. And the coverage has all been negative and process.

You have to kiss a lot of frogs to find a prince, and she has run through the staffers. Now let's see how she does. The others are pretty much invisible.

13 posted on 07/24/2006 8:44:42 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Pukin Dog; NautiNurse
Now ... now ... now

DEEP breaths everyone ... and count to 10 ... LOL

I can see validity in both of your points. Katherine Harris does appear to be diving in the polls. However it would be absolutely delicious if these early polls were all proved useless (not the first time) and she trounced Sen Nelson.
14 posted on 07/24/2006 8:48:45 AM PDT by One_who_hopes_to_know
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To: NautiNurse; Pukin Dog
Harris, to me, seems like a nice person and a smart woman. Can either of you explain to me how and why the press and even other Republicans are so down on her? When I hear the Dems say things like "the Republicans are eating their own", I think of how the Republicans are treating Katherine Harris. She did good for their party and now they turn their back on her. Even President Bush. I just don't get it.
15 posted on 07/24/2006 8:49:54 AM PDT by fish hawk
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To: fish hawk
The facts are that Katherine Harris' personality quirks were not known to most of us during the 2000 election. Although we are all grateful for her insistence on following the election rules which resulted in Bush's win, it has been established beyond argument that she is a weirdo.

No one is turning their back on her without good reason. She is prone to temper tantrums and does not accept responsibility for mistakes. She is indecisive, and unwilling to take advice from campaign professionals.

Just because someone is Conservative, does not make them a great politician. Kathrine Harris might be a great Conservative, but she is a LOWSY candidate for elective office, and in continuing this joke of a campaign, she is becoming a not well respected Republican.

16 posted on 07/24/2006 8:55:26 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Hannity interviewing John Mc Cain was my first experience with Gay pornography.)
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To: ClaireSolt
She's been through a bunch of handlers who insisted she run as a Rino.

I don't know where you got that, but it is false. Ed Rollins and others wanted her to run as a pragmatist. You don't beat an incumbent Senator, even one as weak as Nelson by leading with your chin. You state your opinions in a thoughtful, descriptive way, instead of with a sledgehammer.

The results of the way Harris has insisted on running her campaign are obvious to all. She is handing Democrats the club to beat her with, every time she opens her mouth because she cannot self-edit. The thinks it, she says it, Democrats laugh, Republicans cringe.

17 posted on 07/24/2006 9:01:08 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Hannity interviewing John Mc Cain was my first experience with Gay pornography.)
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To: Pukin Dog
"She thinks it-she says it"
18 posted on 07/24/2006 9:01:43 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Hannity interviewing John Mc Cain was my first experience with Gay pornography.)
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To: NautiNurse

So far from what I have been able to gather of her political views, her views track mine right down the line.


19 posted on 07/24/2006 9:03:15 AM PDT by marron
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To: Pukin Dog
she is a massive liability for these elections

When it comes to MSM bashing, who isn't? The MSM poisons weak minds, that take their venom down into the grassroots. Don't you have anything better to do?

20 posted on 07/24/2006 9:09:46 AM PDT by duckln (Gang of SEVEN, Pres McCain,VP Graham, and 5 RINOS high-jacked our constitution)
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To: marron
So far from what I have been able to gather of her political views, her views track mine right down the line.

Oddly enough, Harris' voting record tracks her political views too.


21 posted on 07/24/2006 9:10:42 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Hurricane season 2006 - Be prepared and have a plan)
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To: Pukin Dog
She is handing Democrats the club to beat her with, every time she opens her mouth

Where in this Palm Beach Post article is your assertion evident?

22 posted on 07/24/2006 9:13:07 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Hurricane season 2006 - Be prepared and have a plan)
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To: NautiNurse
Kathrine Harris' political views and my own are the same. The point that you and others are missing, is that if you want to be elected to office, you need to be able to discuss your views and positions without coming off as a crazy person.

I am smart enough to know that were I ever crazy enough to run for office, I would hire someone who understood how the game is played and do what they say. Harris has ignored all advice from people who know the game WAY better then she does, and that is why her campaign has failed.
23 posted on 07/24/2006 9:15:38 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Hannity interviewing John Mc Cain was my first experience with Gay pornography.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Where in this Palm Beach Post article is your assertion evident?


24 posted on 07/24/2006 9:16:46 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Hurricane season 2006 - Be prepared and have a plan)
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To: Pukin Dog
Kathrine Harris might be a great Conservative, but she is a LOWSY candidate for elective office..

How many times does it have to be said, that Katherine has twice won a house seat? That does not make her a lousy candidate.

Just being a women gives her the advantage. She'll win the senate seat. She may be too conservative for the bushbots, but not for the voters, and that's the rub.

25 posted on 07/24/2006 9:23:09 AM PDT by duckln (Gang of SEVEN, Pres McCain,VP Graham, and 5 RINOS high-jacked our constitution)
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To: NautiNurse

Hard to decide who's better-looking: Katherine Harris or Ann Coulter.


26 posted on 07/24/2006 9:26:44 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: NautiNurse
Just because YOU don't see it, doesn't mean it aint there. Stop asking, or read it again. Whatever you do, knock of the badgering. You made your point. You made it badly, but you made it. Or how many ways must I point out that I disagree with you?
27 posted on 07/24/2006 9:27:41 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Hannity interviewing John Mc Cain was my first experience with Gay pornography.)
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To: fish hawk
She did good for their party and now they turn their back on her. Even President Bush. I just don't get it.

She did good? She only did what the law allowed. If she had ruled any other way, the Bush team would have appealed it as they rightly should. If she did something more than the law allowed, then while she did good for the party, she did not follow the rule of law.

28 posted on 07/24/2006 9:49:19 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: NautiNurse

Couldn't they get more than that. Even when she does good people are trying to make her look foolish. The church should have ensured that thousands were there. This is disappointing for a church to behave this way. The libs are laughing sadly.


29 posted on 07/24/2006 9:54:23 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
The church should have ensured that thousands were there.

Thousands of people attend Presidential rallies or Hollywood celebrity fund-raisers(unless you are John Kerry, who pulled a whopping 250 supporters in Tampa the same day GW Bush drew 21,000 Florida fans in 2004).

30 posted on 07/24/2006 10:25:20 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Hurricane season 2006 - Be prepared and have a plan)
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To: Pukin Dog

Guess what! I didn't get it anywhere. That is my own opinon based on her campaign materials I have seen and received in my own mailbox and on the press coverage. However, aside from your assumption that I have to find my thoughts in some cafeteria or repository of others, saying it is pragmatic to appear RINO or moderate is pretty much the same thing imho.


31 posted on 07/24/2006 10:32:38 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: duckln; Pukin Dog

Ducklin says: Just being a women gives her the advantage. She'll win the senate seat. She may be too conservative for the bushbots, but not for the voters, and that's the rub.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Maybe this explains it?

From Pukin dog's FR page:

Pukin Dog says: There is nothing about Pukin Dog that you need to know, except that I am a Bush Bot.


32 posted on 07/24/2006 1:08:28 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Freedom isn't Free.........Support Our Troops......Thank a Veteran Today)
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To: ClaireSolt; NautiNurse
Harris said her firm opposition to gay marriage was affirmation of her Christian faith and one that "very much distinguishes me" from incumbent Nelson.

She also pointed to her "100 percent voting record" against abortion, including support for the parental-consent law and the ban against the "heinous" procedure of "partial-birth" abortion.


33 posted on 07/24/2006 1:14:30 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Freedom isn't Free.........Support Our Troops......Thank a Veteran Today)
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To: joesbucks
Okay, then let me put it this way. She did not do anything bad. She had the power to screw them up. Can you imagine the time and such to straighten out the appeals.
34 posted on 07/24/2006 2:09:45 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: NautiNurse

Well, don't forget, she has that handsome handgun to back her up.


35 posted on 07/24/2006 5:47:51 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger ("Good guys" aren't always "nice guys".)
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To: NautiNurse
GO HARRIS GO! WHOO-HOO!
36 posted on 07/24/2006 5:49:13 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: Patrick1
Glad her views are grounded in faith because her campaign is going to Hell.

LOL! She's one of most conservative Republicans in Congress, and you're worried about her campaign that for the most part, has been twisted and taken out of context by the media and RNC?

37 posted on 07/24/2006 5:51:49 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: Pukin Dog
This is why it is such a nutty thing to consider punishing the Republican party, when we should be letting them know that we’ve got their back, but if they cant do the job, we will replace them with ANOTHER Republican, instead of handing the reigns of government to the party of anger, hopelessness and despair. We sometimes like to think that those people we send to Washington are different from us, that they are capable of meeting our every need and desire.

-- A HOUSE DIVIDED - Pukin's FReeperanniversary Rant

Where is your support of this fine woman? Harris is the most conservative of the candidates. Still not good enough for you?

38 posted on 07/24/2006 5:57:54 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: Pukin Dog
Harris should swallow her pride and DROP OUT

Ever heard of a "primary?" Let Harris prove her worth in the Sept 5th GOP primary. If she loses, she loses. But to say that she should drop out is disingenious. What are you afraid of, BTW?

39 posted on 07/24/2006 6:00:23 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: Pukin Dog
Ed Rollins and others wanted her to run as a pragmatist

LOL! You mean the same Ed Rollins that's advising the kook in the NY Senate race?

Harris got rid of these establishment, mealy-mouthed hacks that wanted her to be someone she's not, and she's better because of it.

40 posted on 07/24/2006 6:03:10 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: duckln

Some people are afraid of strong women. Hence the Coulter bashers who spewed the same garbage when Coulter's book comes out. They're not used to women standing up on their own.


41 posted on 07/24/2006 6:05:05 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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