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(Field) Poll finds Californians' glass half full
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 7/25/06 | John Marelius

Posted on 07/25/2006 9:24:51 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

As Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger embarks from San Diego County on a campaign bus tour this morning, he will be greeted by good news in the form of a poll showing his re-election prospects brightening.

A new statewide Field Poll shows that 45 percent of the likely voters in the Nov. 7 election would vote for the Republican incumbent and 37 percent for Democratic state Treasurer Phil Angelides. Three percent would vote for minor-party candidates and the remaining 15 percent were undecided.

Although that does not represent a statistically significant change from May, when Schwarzenegger led Angelides 46 percent to 39 percent, other indicators are moving strongly in the governor's direction.

Favorable opinions about Schwarzenegger are back in the 50-percent range for the first time since early last year, and there has been a dramatic improvement in the way voters believe things are going in the state – always good news for an incumbent.

“The backdrop that the governor finds himself in is a much more favorable one now than right before the primary,” said Field Poll director Mark DiCamillo. “The news coming out of Sacramento is largely positive, and so voters are giving the governor a little more credit.”

An unanticipated windfall of tax receipts this spring allowed Schwarzenegger to boost spending for popular programs, particularly education, and the Legislature reached bipartisan agreement on a rare on-time budget.

For the first time since February 2005, more voters approve of the job Schwarzenegger is doing, 49 percent, than disapprove, 41 percent.

In addition, voters have a more optimistic view of the direction of the state than at any time in nearly two years.

Nearly half of the voters, 47 percent, said they believed the state was headed in the right direction, compared with 41 percent who said it was on the wrong track. That represents a sharp turnaround since May, when 57 percent said they thought California was on the wrong track and 32 percent believed it was going in the right direction.

Angelides appears to have gained little traction since defeating state Controller Steve Westly in the June Democratic primary after a bruising campaign.

Schwarzenegger enjoys 85 percent support among Republicans, despite grumbling by conservatives about his return to a bipartisan approach. Only 8 percent of Republicans said they would vote for Angelides.

Angelides has the support of 63 percent of his party – with 16 percent of Democrats saying they plan to vote for Schwarzenegger. Nearly 20 percent haven't made up their minds.

“There's a relatively high proportion of undecideds among Democrats,” DiCamillo said. “The Republicans are already there for the governor, and I guess you could expect them to remain there for the rest of the campaign.”

The Angelides camp maintains there is plenty of time until the election and that President Bush's unpopularity will drag down Schwarzenegger.

“It's summer. It's a wide open race,” said Bob Mulholland, senior adviser to the Angelides campaign. “A month ago, Schwarzenegger was at 44 percent. Schwarzenegger is still stuck in the mid 40s. And for an incumbent governor with 100 percent name ID and with Bush's troubles, this is the best year for the Democrats to defeat a one-term governor.”

Matthew Dowd, senior strategist for the Schwarzenegger campaign, predicted a close race, but said Angelides had a lot of work to do.

“He hasn't even shored up the Democratic base yet,” Dowd said. “That's a difficult spot to be in. He's got to motivate and convince his own base before he gets to reach across to independents and Republicans.”

There is a profound divide between Schwarzenegger and Angelides supporters about the issues they most care most about. With undecided voters more in line with Angelides' supporters on issues, it is a dynamic that could work to the Democrat's advantage.

Among Schwarzenegger voters, 56 percent said illegal immigration was the most important issue, with 40 percent citing taxes and 30 percent citing jobs and the economy.

Among Angelides voters, 57 percent cite education as the most important issue, followed by health care at 50 percent, and environmental protection and jobs and the economy at 42 percent.

It could come down to whether the election is driven by issues or personalities, DiCamillo said.

“It's a Democratic state. The issues could be on his side,” DiCamillo said of Angelides.

“Schwarzenegger is dominating the news. That is going to be a big problem for Angelides. How is he going to get control of the campaign agenda when the governor seems to be setting it?”

The governor is conducting a two-day bus trip of Southern California that begins with a town hall-style meeting scheduled for 9:30 a.m. today at the Harry Griffen Park amphitheater in La Mesa.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2006polls; angelides; arnoldpoll; californians; fieldpoll; glass; halffull; pollsareforstrippers; schwarzenegger
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1 posted on 07/25/2006 9:24:53 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Isn't the Field poll outrageously slanted to the left?


2 posted on 07/25/2006 9:27:27 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: CFC__VRWC

ummm,, I have heard that claim before.


3 posted on 07/25/2006 9:38:29 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge; FairOpinion; doodlelady
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger embarks from San Diego County on a campaign bus tour this morning...

Hmmm... still no mention of McClintock. Weren't they going to campaign on a "joint ticket"?

4 posted on 07/25/2006 10:26:36 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge
“He hasn't even shored up the Democratic base yet,” Dowd said. “That's a difficult spot to be in. He's got to motivate and convince his own base before he gets to reach across to independents and Republicans.”

ROFL! Hey, Matt! That's funny!
Why not try the Schwarzenegger method? Abandon your base, adopt the platform of the other party, and reach across the aisle and take the votes from your opponent?

5 posted on 07/25/2006 10:30:03 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Sure, you want Arnold to trot out McClintock and run on "McClintock is conservative" to get 35% of the voters vote for him, if he is lucky, and 65% AGAINST him.

Brtilliant strategy, if you want Angelides to win.


6 posted on 07/25/2006 10:43:14 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: CFC__VRWC
Isn't the Field poll outrageously slanted to the left?

I have the same question. Does anyone have any background on this polling organization?

7 posted on 07/25/2006 10:45:00 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: calcowgirl
And speaking of McClintock:

Schwarzenegger, a prodigious fund-raiser, helped McClintock amass about $500,000 for his 2004 Senate race. This year, McClintock has been invited to meet-and-greets with well-heeled Schwarzenegger donors.

The governor could also help generate publicity for McClintock and earn him crossover appeal with independents and Democrats. If the governor solidly wins re-election, McClintock and other Republican candidates for statewide office could ride his coattails.

There's also a chance that opponents could try to use some of McClintock's views -- opposition to abortion, for example -- to tar Schwarzenegger as he tries to win over moderates and independents. But pro-choice Californians could always split the ticket.

CA: A rare pair of running mates (Shwarzenegger and McClintock)

8 posted on 07/25/2006 10:52:16 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

Still quoting a 4 month old article, huh?

I thought this was going to be a "joint ticket"--a "joint campaign"?


9 posted on 07/25/2006 10:58:44 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: FairOpinion; Carry_Okie; ElkGroveDan; SierraWasp; Amerigomag; kellynla; NormsRevenge; Czar; ...
Sure, you want Arnold to trot out McClintock and run on "McClintock is conservative" to get 35% of the voters vote for him, if he is lucky, and 65% AGAINST him. Brtilliant strategy, if you want Angelides to win.

Interesting! That is very telling, indeed.

Here you all said that a "joint ticket" was such a brilliant strategy. Now you are suggesting that Arnold would suffer from campaigning with McClintock. Can we assume ARnold has already abandoned Tom then? That would also explain the absence of an endorsement for Proposition 90, Eminent Domain (while endorsing the Dem backed Prop 84).

It also suggests the chances of Arnold and the CA GOP setting Tom up to win in 2010 are somewhere between slim and none.

Can't you just feel the love--the "unity"?

10 posted on 07/25/2006 11:09:30 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

why do the words partisan and twit come to mind?
lol


11 posted on 07/25/2006 11:13:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: calcowgirl

You are ignoring the obvious:

"There's also a chance that opponents could try to use some of McClintock's views -- opposition to abortion, for example -- to tar Schwarzenegger as he tries to win over moderates and independents. But pro-choice Californians could always split the ticket. "

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1582375/posts


I have just posted this on another thread, but it'a a good test for all those you pinged.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1671927/posts?page=21#21


OK. Here is a multiple choice question for you. Do you prefer a or b? You have to pick a or b. WHICH will you pick?

a. Arnold runs around campaigning for the Republican candidates in CA, even hopeless ones, like Mountjoy, it doesn't do the Republicans any good, Arnold ends up typecasting himself and loses to Angelides.

b. Arnold runs a more moderate campaigning, being careful to not give Angelides a chance to portray him as a "dreaded right winger", Arnold does fundraising to some R. candidates, WINS the election and other Republicans win too on his coattails.


===

Well, let's here from everyone. Do you prefer a or b?


12 posted on 07/25/2006 11:15:50 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Neither one of them will get my vote, there isn't a whole lot of difference in them.

Both liberal democrats and the only real difference is one of them can't speak english.


13 posted on 07/25/2006 11:19:50 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: FairOpinion
Arnold runs around campaigning for the Republican candidates in CA, even hopeless ones, like Mountjoy,

And just what did Mountjoy do to you? Just can't resisit slamming conservatives eh? Unity. Yeah, right, only if it's a RINO.

b. Arnold runs a more moderate campaigning,

By proffering socialized medicine? You call that "moderate"? Need I remind you what the voters thought of HillaryCare?

14 posted on 07/25/2006 11:26:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I like to see Republicans run, who at least have a chance of winning.


15 posted on 07/25/2006 11:28:17 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
Sure, you want Arnold to trot out McClintock and run on "McClintock is conservative" to get 35% of the voters vote for him, if he is lucky, and 65% AGAINST him.

Actually the candidates in recent years who have gotten BELOW 35% are the RINO MODERATES you love so much. Tom Campbell comes to mind. McClintock has captured the highest percentage of any losing candidate. If you'd get your single-issue RINOs to just vote the party ticket, McClintock would have won Controller twice already.

16 posted on 07/25/2006 11:28:40 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: FairOpinion

"I like to see Republicans run, who at least have a chance of winning."

The ones you support are not Republicans!


17 posted on 07/25/2006 11:30:24 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: FairOpinion
I like to see Republicans run, who at least have a chance of winning.

Oh, I see, we're back to "Tom can't win," only now it's "Dick can't win," the corollary being because 'moderate' Republicans like you will make sure of it. That's because you prefer leftists to conservatives. And then you have the unmitigated gall to ask, no DEMAND, that conservatives support your precious fascist?

Go ahead FO, make my day. Now that you supported Tom long enough to get Arnold nominated, you clearly intend to assure that the screw job starts again in earnest.

18 posted on 07/25/2006 11:33:38 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: FairOpinion

Your questions show that you have absolutely no faith have nothing but disdain for the Republican platform.

Here's what you are selling, FO:

Big spending, HUGE borrowing, free health clinics in schools, liberal judges, state land grabs, more gun regulation, bogus trade programs, prescription drug programs, global warming regulations, opposition to offshore drilling, envirowacko energy alternatives (as gas prices soar and blackouts are threatened).

I don't want any part of it.


19 posted on 07/25/2006 11:38:38 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: FairOpinion

Correction:

Your questions show that you have absolutely no faith in conservative philosophies and have nothing but disdain for the Republican platform.


20 posted on 07/25/2006 11:40:02 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Carry_Okie
...you clearly intend to assure that the screw job starts again in earnest

This really ticks me off!

21 posted on 07/25/2006 12:12:44 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge
I've always thought that the glass is half full or half empty depending on whether you are pouring or drinking, if you are pouring it is half full, if you are drinking it is half empty.
22 posted on 07/25/2006 12:17:27 PM PDT by edzo4
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To: calcowgirl; FairOpinion

Thank you for the ping.

The 'joint ticket' I see are their individual efforts to shore up winning votes, to the benefit of them both. Voters for Arnold, who aren't used to voting Republican, might then vote for Tom also, instead of Garamendi.

Until Tom publically denounces Arnold, I will assume he supports him.
Call his office and find out for yourself.


23 posted on 07/25/2006 3:09:59 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: doodlelady
Until Tom publically denounces Arnold, I will assume he supports him.

I'm waiting to hear Arnold say he supports Tom.

24 posted on 07/25/2006 3:31:43 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

He has already said it 500,000 way$.


25 posted on 07/25/2006 3:34:48 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: calcowgirl
"Can we assume ARnold has already abandoned Tom then?"

I think we can.

Strictly to bring about a little balance, I will not be voting for Arnold, just like the Primary. It will either be a write-in or left blank.

26 posted on 07/25/2006 4:24:22 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar

I'm seeing shades of the old "Embarrassed to be a Republican" thing.

I think they are making a BIG mistake!


27 posted on 07/25/2006 4:53:25 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Are you talking about the same "conservative" philosophy, which caused you to vote WITH the DEMS against Arnold's conservative propositions to control spending?

Yes, I am most definitely opposed to people running around claiming to be conservative, while supporting Dems and the Dem agenda.


28 posted on 07/25/2006 4:56:05 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

I voted against Prop 76 which wasn't conservative at all.

It authorized more bonds and more borrowing and did NOT control spending.


29 posted on 07/25/2006 4:59:29 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; FairOpinion

Even McClintock supported 76.


30 posted on 07/25/2006 5:08:21 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: doodlelady

McClintock was against Prop 57/58, but you sure didn't seem to care about his opinion then!


31 posted on 07/25/2006 5:11:31 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: FairOpinion

btt


32 posted on 07/25/2006 5:12:41 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Leaning on the everlasting arms.)
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To: calcowgirl

Tom supported 76, yes?


33 posted on 07/25/2006 5:18:59 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: calcowgirl

"Big spending, HUGE borrowing, free health clinics in schools, liberal judges, state land grabs, more gun regulation, bogus trade programs, prescription drug programs, global warming regulations, opposition to offshore drilling, envirowacko energy alternatives (as gas prices soar and blackouts are threatened).

I don't want any part of it."


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You sure could have fooled me, the way you are trying to get Angelides elected.


34 posted on 07/25/2006 5:19:23 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: calcowgirl

The Dems and the unions spend MILLIONS to defeat Prop. 76. You voted WITH the Dems and Unions to defeat it.

That is NOT a conservative stance.


35 posted on 07/25/2006 5:21:18 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Czar

"I will not be voting for Arnold"


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Another Angelides Supporter!


36 posted on 07/25/2006 5:22:27 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

Check again, FO. They spent millions to defeat Props 74 and 75--not 76.


37 posted on 07/25/2006 5:28:03 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Sure, all the unions and Dems were actively campaigning for Prop. 76. (/sarcasm)

They spent millions to defeat ALL of Arnold's propositions, including Prop. 76, I recall lots of anti-Prop. 76 ads, and not one was paid for by conservatives. Conservatives voted FOR Prop. 76.

The fact that you didn't, shows you are supporting the Dems, and their agenda, while trying to pretend you are a conservative.

Supporting the Dem agenda and trying to get Angelides elected, are NOT what conservatives do. And this is exactly what you are doing with every single post.


38 posted on 07/25/2006 5:35:01 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
Sure, you want Arnold to trot out McClintock and run on "McClintock is conservative" to get 35% of the voters vote for him, if he is lucky, and 65% AGAINST him.

Brtilliant strategy, if you want Angelides to win.

Are you really too embarrassed to support a Republican candidate on a Republican platform?

That's very sad.

39 posted on 07/25/2006 5:50:08 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Which part of "65% of CA voters are NOT Republicans" are you having problem comprehending?

Anyone running for statewide office in CA has to appeal to independents/moderates and Dems to get elected.

Appealing ONLY to Republicans will only result in DEFEAT and a Dem being elected.

But of course you know that, that's why you want Arnold to run far right, so Angelides can use that against him and get elected.

You are only using McClintock to try to divide the conservatives. McClintock IS supporting Arnold and he made that very clear many times.


40 posted on 07/25/2006 5:55:22 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion; calcowgirl; ElkGroveDan; Amerigomag; NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp
Notwithstanding the countless number of times we have explained the difference to you, I see you nevertheless remain in a state of perpetual confusion concerning the difference between actually voting for a democrat and refusing to vote for a RINO masquerading as a Republican.

You and the rest of your party-above-principle GOP Big Tent Arnold cheerleaders are on a fool's errand. But you're too blinded by celebrity (and latent liberal tendencies) to catch on.

You really do need to come out of Arnold's amen corner once in awhile to see what's going on in the real world.

By the way, I have yet to find a single one of my Orange County conservative friends--all hard right rudder--who is planning on voting for the Austrian. They seem to be as fed up as I am.

41 posted on 07/25/2006 5:58:05 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar

"McClintock, who is more conservative than Schwarzenegger, backed the governor against conservative critics earlier this year and praised him repeatedly Thursday for his attention to infrastructure and the deficit. "

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1669857/posts


42 posted on 07/25/2006 5:58:24 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Czar

California Republicans: Arnold's No RINO! (Conservatives Support Him)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1643459/posts


“The Democrats of Sacramento represent a tax-and-spend agenda that is not likely to change,” wrote the GOP’s “great right hope” of ‘02, Bill Simon Jr., in the latest American Spectator. “The governor could go a long way if he represented a stark contrast to that agenda. People like candidates with a vision, and Schwarzenegger has a reform-minded one.”

On the balance, Arnold’s been a great governor,” Scott Baugh, former GOP state legislator and now chairman of the Orange County Republican Party, told me. “His first act was cutting $4 billion from the budget. His second act, the repeal of the car tax, resulted in $12 billion back to the taxpayers. Worker’s compensation claims have dropped 40%. That sends a huge signal to business that California is serious about welcoming new jobs.”

Like other conservatives, Baugh hopes that a Schwarzenegger re-election this fall will give the state GOP what he calls “a bench,a conservative bench—Tom McClintock as lieutenant governor and Chuck Poochigian as attorney general.”


43 posted on 07/25/2006 6:01:29 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
We've been through all of this before, time and again.

Nothing has changed.

By all means, though, keep firing those blanks.

44 posted on 07/25/2006 6:02:03 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar

Yes. Nothing has changed. You are still attacking Republicans, not attacking Democrats and are actively working to try to get CA turned over 100% to the Dems, by electing Angelides and all Dems.


45 posted on 07/25/2006 6:03:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion; calcowgirl; NormsRevenge
You really don't understand, do you?

"On the balance, Arnold’s been a great governor,” Scott Baugh, former GOP state legislator and now chairman of the Orange County Republican Party, told me."

As has been explained to you countless times, Baugh is a lapdog for the silk sock, country club New Majority RINOs, and is no conservative. In a purge engineered by the New Majority (assisted by Dufus Sundheim and his CRP pecksniffs), the real conservative--Tom Fuentes--was displaced and Baugh inserted in his place.

You should avoid posting this kind of utter nonsense to Orange County conservatives. Unlike the blindly faithful, we know better.

Want to try again?

46 posted on 07/25/2006 6:12:33 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar; All
The Angelides camp KNOWS that Republicans who don't actually vote for Arnold ARE helping Angelides.

Here is an excerpt:

"Angelides ... must win 80% of the Dems and a solid majority of the DTS (declined to state) registrants, TO ACCOMPANY THE 15% REPUBLICANS WHO DON"T VOTE FOR THEIR PARTY'S TICKET"

ANGELIDES IS COUNTING ON YOU.

http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2006/07/new_poll_result.html
47 posted on 07/25/2006 6:17:36 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
Appealing ONLY to Republicans will only result in DEFEAT and a Dem being elected.

Of course, I didn't say that, now did I?

No. Of course I didn't. Keep on spinning!

48 posted on 07/25/2006 6:23:49 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: FairOpinion; Czar; calcowgirl; Avoiding_Sulla; EternalVigilance; Amerigomag; SierraWasp; ...
Anyone running for statewide office in CA has to appeal to independents/moderates and Dems to get elected.

This is a blatantly false statement whose purpose is to twist perceptions to support your position. One does not have to be appealing or pleasing to win. Here's the truth:

Anyone running for statewide office in CA has to be PREFERABLE TO SOCIALISTS to get elected, which is not nearly so hard to achieve as is popularity in today's media climate. McClintock's near victory in the controller's race despite being outspent 5:1 clearly so attests.

They don't have to like us, they just have to fear the left more, which isn't THAT hard to do. Of course, if there isn't much of a contrast with the left, then you DO have to appeal to voters, which falls to a pandering contest Republicans seldom win.

All RINOs have to sell is lower taxes, or (more accurately) the appearance of lower taxes. Unfortunately, the concessions RINOs havt to offer in order to be "appealing" inevitably raise costs. Hence our current dilemma.

Interestingly, voters like the results of conservative governance as Reagan's and Deukmejian's landslides easily attest.

49 posted on 07/25/2006 6:50:32 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I'm an Independant. McClintock appeals to me immensely, Swartzennegger does not. Since the media doesn't inform
us of who else is running for governor I guess I won't be
voting for govenor. As of now all I know is that two liberals are running for that spot and I have an intense dislike for both of them.

Who's idea was it to push Swartzenegger into the special
election anyway?


50 posted on 07/25/2006 6:52:52 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby
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