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London police condemn water-pistol game
Herald Sun ^ | 26 July 2006

Posted on 07/25/2006 5:24:32 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

LONDONERS began a citywide role playing game where people roam the capital to shoot each other with water pistols - and police warned that contestants might be committing criminal offences.

"StreetWars" have already taken place in New York, Vancouver, San Francisco, Los Angeles and Vienna - described on their website by tournament organisers as "A three week long, 24/7, watergun assassination tournament".

As part of the game, participants are handed a manila envelope containing the details of their "target", including their name, home and work addresses, along with a picture, and are assigned with the task of "assassinating" them with a watergun.

Upon being "killed", the person who has just been eliminated from the game hands details of their target to the successful "assassin".

The last person left standing - or perhaps, still dry - after three weeks is declared the winner, and is given a cash prize which is usually around $US500 ($660) according to the tournament website.

Players are encouraged to track down their target in any way they see fit, with suggestions including posing as a delivery person, or putting on a disguise to fire on the target on the street.

London's Metropolitan Police and the British Transport Police both issued stark warnings to participants before the start of the game, with the BTP calling those taking part "irresponsible".

A spokesman for London's Metropolitan Police said: "Some water pistols, like replica firearms, can look very real and if a member of the public spots someone acting suspiciously ... a seemingly innocent bit of fun can escalate with armed officers responding.

"In addition, actions like this can result in a waste of police time and divert essential operational police resources away from real life situations."

The BTP, meanwhile, said it was advising all water pistol-armed contestants not to board the London Underground trains or local overground rail services, and told them they should consider that it may appear as though they were committing criminal offences.

"The transport system is not the place for this sort of activity," said Superintendent Bob Pacey.

Drawing attention to the terrorist suicide bombings on London's transport network in July 2005, the BTP warned that the sight of people carrying water pistols that looked like real guns could cause "genuine fear".


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bang; crimes; criminalintent; london; police; toyguns; uk; waterpistols
Sounds like a gross over-reaction from the overly PC pommy police...
1 posted on 07/25/2006 5:24:33 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

dude, this going on all over this country. My sister and her friends are comical in their fear of their "assasins." Just kids having some creative fun.


2 posted on 07/25/2006 5:27:35 PM PDT by mockingbyrd
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To: Aussie Dasher
"Sounds like a gross over-reaction from the overly PC pommy police."

Sounds typical from what comes out of the UK actually. Perhaps a water gun ban is in order, or strike at the root of the problem, water. If they got rid of that, then they could get rid of water guns and water balloons at the same time.
3 posted on 07/25/2006 5:28:24 PM PDT by tfecw (It's for the children)
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To: Aussie Dasher

We played that 25 years ago in Atlanta - it did cause some issue - one of the players was a security guard and I shot him on the job - really pissed him off - I took more risks back then.


4 posted on 07/25/2006 5:29:20 PM PDT by gondramB (The options on the table have been there from the beginning. Withdraw and fail or commit and succeed)
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To: Aussie Dasher
London's Metropolitan Police and the British Transport Police both issued stark warnings to participants before the start of the game, with the BTP calling those taking part "irresponsible".

Oh for crying out loud

5 posted on 07/25/2006 5:36:55 PM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: Aussie Dasher; Slings and Arrows; martin_fierro

That actually sounds like fun! If I were a Brit, I'd sign up.


6 posted on 07/25/2006 5:44:15 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Conservatives teach you how to fish. Socialists give you the fish by stealing it from the fisherman.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
It's all fun and games until somebody gets hurt.

We played this in college and it was pretty fun.

But in a city, giving out your name, address, picture to an unknown individual who is supposed to stalk you?

Sorry, that's a wee bit creepy.

7 posted on 07/25/2006 5:44:41 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
A spokesman for London's Metropolitan Police said: "Some water pistols, like replica firearms, can look very real and if a member of the public spots someone acting suspiciously ... a seemingly innocent bit of fun can escalate with armed officers responding.

Right.... the concerned citizen will whip out his cellphone and call the coppers who will instantly materialize and a mistake the water pistol for a real firearm which could result in a response that endangers innocent life.

And all this transpires from the moment that the squirt gun is revealed to the split second before the trigger is pulled revealing it to be an honest to God Squirt gun!

Having said all that, any one brandishing a realistic toy pistol in a menacing way is looking for trouble

8 posted on 07/25/2006 5:44:49 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Aussie Dasher

It's a game of killer - for the love of God, Montressor - my schoolteachers ran it when I was little.


9 posted on 07/25/2006 5:47:07 PM PDT by sig226 (There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who do not.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

When they soak a Brazilian kid by mistake, I bet they don't make up a bunch of lies to cover themselves. And he can fight back.


10 posted on 07/25/2006 5:47:57 PM PDT by AlexandriaDuke (Conservatives want freedom. Republicans want power.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I played this game in junior high back in 1986. It was a lot of fun, but I got "assassinated" right away.

APf


11 posted on 07/25/2006 6:07:51 PM PDT by APFel (Individualism. The alpha and the omega.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I wonder when the Bobbies are going to be required to carry soft foam-rubber nightsticks instead of their wooden ones?

I just KNOW that it's only a matter of time.


12 posted on 07/25/2006 6:14:00 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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To: EEDUDE

Today water guns and kitchen knives, tomorrow sticks and rocks.

When the time comes for the average Brit to defend himself, expect cowering in corners and lots of tears.


13 posted on 07/25/2006 6:19:52 PM PDT by alarm rider (Those that vote for RINOS knowingly, have already admitted defeat.)
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To: mockingbyrd
dude, this going on all over this country

For more than 25 years.

14 posted on 07/25/2006 6:43:14 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (A brute kills for pleasure. A fool kills from hate - Robert A Heinlein)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Sounds REALLY fun.


15 posted on 07/25/2006 6:50:11 PM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery.") (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Wasn't Anthony Edwards in a movie about this sort of thing?


16 posted on 07/25/2006 6:54:12 PM PDT by Virulas (Your modern Democratic Party - a cult in search of a personality.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Another reason to hate Europe other than their anti Jewish racism.


17 posted on 07/25/2006 6:55:59 PM PDT by Porterville (Hispanic Republican American Bush Supporter)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Another reason to hate Europe other than their anti Jewish racism.


18 posted on 07/25/2006 6:56:01 PM PDT by Porterville (Hispanic Republican American Bush Supporter)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Oh, for the days of merry olde England.


19 posted on 07/25/2006 7:28:12 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: EEDUDE
I wonder when the Bobbies are going to be required to carry soft foam-rubber nightsticks instead of their wooden ones?

If they switch to wearing those nifty black pajamas they can call themselves "The Nerf Ninjas".

The yobs should simply topple over in fear. ;)

20 posted on 07/25/2006 7:38:31 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; SandyInSeattle; Darksheare; ...
Why are high-ranking British cops such ?


21 posted on 07/25/2006 9:38:06 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Pray for peace, prepare for war.)
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To: mylife
Having said all that, any one brandishing a realistic toy pistol in a menacing way is looking for trouble.

I'm probably going to get more links than I care to look at, but...is there such a thing as a water pistol that looks like a real gun?

22 posted on 07/25/2006 9:41:16 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: Aussie Dasher
Perhaps an answer would be to market a line of water pistols designed specifically for this game. Something made of a bright, colorful plastic that would scream water gun and not the real thing.

Seems like a really fun game to me, but then I am the sort that would like that kind of thing. Like everything else in life there are those who will like it and those who will hate it. The answer is for these people to stay out of each other's way.
23 posted on 07/25/2006 11:56:06 PM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: Aussie Dasher

"Sounds like a gross over-reaction from the overly PC pommy police..."

"A spokesman for London's Metropolitan Police said: "Some water pistols, like replica firearms, can look very real and if a member of the public spots someone acting suspiciously ... a seemingly innocent bit of fun can escalate with armed officers responding. "

Seriously, you do get the impression our police shoot first and ask questions later. It does look like armed UK police overreact; any situation involving the slightest hint of a firearm and a platoon of paramilitaries in black boilersuits turn up with HK MP5's and baseball caps (maybe an L96 sniper rifle and helicopter thrown in too). It seems that everybody shot is found to be armed with imitation weapons/air pistols/table legs just been repaired (there was a big case over that)/toys and was found to be nowhere near the threat perceived. Of course, if it walks, acts and sounds like a duck, then police have to assume it is one. It just seems the people shot had no idea how dangerous they were perceived to be & did something foolish.


24 posted on 07/27/2006 4:51:35 AM PDT by Mac1
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To: mockingbyrd
dude, this going on all over this country.

We played this game in high school 20 years ago.

25 posted on 07/27/2006 4:55:23 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: JohnnyZ
But in a city, giving out your name, address, picture to an unknown individual who is supposed to stalk you?

Sorry, that's a wee bit creepy.

That's what makes the game exciting! A real sense of paranoia sets in.

26 posted on 07/27/2006 4:58:51 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: APFel
I played this game in junior high back in 1986. It was a lot of fun, but I got "assassinated" right away. APf

Yeah, my ex-girlfriend got me. I was heartbroken when she dumped me and then she passed me a letter saying she wanted to talk in a private place by the school gym. I met her there and she killed me with a smile and a laugh. That bitch!

27 posted on 07/27/2006 5:01:37 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: pcottraux

I'm sure they're out there, but they aren't common.

Now, Airsoft pistols are another thing altogether, but they should not be considered "toys", similar to how BB and pellet guns should/are not.


28 posted on 07/27/2006 5:05:17 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: pcottraux
is there such a thing as a water pistol that looks like a real gun?

This one is sold, surprisingly, out of Britain. You fill the magazines up with water. Only £7.99!

Uzi 'Water' Machine Pistol

29 posted on 07/27/2006 5:08:53 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Ditto... my roomate in College won the University wide tournament our second year. (This was at a State school with 17,000 undergraduates. I think there was about 1000 people in the game.) At one point he actually dressed up in one of his sisters dresses and a wig to nail someone coming out of the men's room.


30 posted on 07/27/2006 5:13:12 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: Drew68
That's what makes the game exciting! A real sense of paranoia sets in.

I get that part. But what if they really are creeps?

I see it more of a problem for women than men, but even so.

In college everyone's a friend of a friend of a friend. In a city there are lots of people I wouldn't want having my picture and address and trying to come near me.

31 posted on 07/27/2006 8:03:54 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Sounds like a gross over-reaction from the overly PC pommy police.

These days pulling a gun, even a water pistol, in a public place is likely to result in law enforcement reacting, possibly with tragic consequences.

32 posted on 07/27/2006 8:11:44 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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To: Aussie Dasher
It's all fun and games until someone gets shot by the cops. Then, threads on the subject will be flooded by folks who will lambaste the police. Lambasted for the warning, lambasted for the outcome. The circle will be complete.

For the record, I'd love to play this game because I understand the risk. If anyone does not (including the participants in London), they are dreaming.

33 posted on 07/27/2006 8:16:29 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Aussie Dasher

I used to run TAG (The Assassination Game) events at my high school. One rule we had was that there were to be no "hits" during class time, only before or after classes. I got called to the principle's office, and he actually didn't think it was a big deal. Apparently, some of the teachers were throwing a hissy fit.


34 posted on 07/27/2006 8:43:55 AM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)
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